From D‑Boy to Darian: How I Ditched the Pimp Life and Got Sober
D-Mack's sobriety and turnaround from “D Boy” to Darian Evans — quitting alcohol, leaving the pimp life, and rebuilding a real life — is the main thing we dig into right away. We sit down and get honest about addiction (yes, alcoholism is a medically recognized disease), how triggers work, and practical tools like AA’s 12-step concepts and the idea of changing “people, places, and things” to protect recovery — basic stuff explained so it actually makes sense. I joke, I tease, and we trade stories about roses, Versace robes, and all the sauce, but we also get into the serious: how he spent years trying, went to rehab multiple times, and finally used faith, persistence, and identity work to let go of an alter-ego that was destroying him. We talk relationship stuff too — soul ties, celibacy as a strategy to focus on legacy, and why pacing love (not rushing it) matters when you’re rebuilding. Oh, and because life loves a plot twist, D-Mack’s now acting in a movie called My Brother’s Keeper and is channeling his hustle into creative, corporate moves — from the block to the big screen. Trust me, it’s equal parts raw, practical, and hilarious — like therapy with better music and more flowers.
Transcript
Sam,.
Speaker B:Hey, that's the old hoe.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:I'm a new hoe.
Speaker B:I'm just playing.
Speaker A:I'm just a whole new hoe.
Speaker B:I'm a whole new hoe, y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:I know that's right.
Speaker B:This is so special.
Speaker B:Nobody's brought me roses, though.
Speaker B:You won with this one.
Speaker B:Nobody did.
Speaker B:You won with this one.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker A:This is so precious.
Speaker B:No, I'm.
Speaker B:I take.
Speaker B:I'm serious.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:I show gratitude like this.
Speaker A:Two gifts in one day.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:Honestly, that's the least we could do.
Speaker A:For real?
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker A:That's the least.
Speaker A:That's the least I could do.
Speaker B:No, I feel that.
Speaker B:Like, you know, I just.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:This is a hard game, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker A:You want an incredible run, though?
Speaker A:I am incredible run.
Speaker B:I am moving.
Speaker B:Thank you, babe.
Speaker A:The four.
Speaker B:Oh, he.
Speaker A:Look.
Speaker B:Percy ready to go.
Speaker B:He did.
Speaker A:I thought we.
Speaker A:I thought we was already recording.
Speaker A:Now, make.
Speaker B:Keep that in there.
Speaker A:I mean, it's been recording.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Perfect, but still.
Speaker B:Do your countdown.
Speaker B:Got my roses.
Speaker B:Keep this in there.
Speaker B:Tuck that.
Speaker B:Keep that out.
Speaker B:What's up?
Speaker B:What's up, y'?
Speaker B:All?
Speaker B:It's Dr. Stan.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Turning your hustle into a legacy.
Speaker B:And of course, I got the big D M.
Speaker A:What's good with it?
Speaker A:Live wire.
Speaker A:What's happening?
Speaker B:It's happening.
Speaker B:I'm like.
Speaker B:Like, he extra special, y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:I got the pretty red roses with the sparkles that match his shoes.
Speaker B:Please check those out.
Speaker A:He came, she played too much.
Speaker B:No, he.
Speaker B:Listen.
Speaker B:He killing y' all in the game.
Speaker B:So listen, he's.
Speaker B:You the first to bring me some roses, honey.
Speaker A:She putting it on and they real.
Speaker B:Quit playing.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:What's up, D?
Speaker A:Wrek, man?
Speaker A:What's up with you, man?
Speaker B:I'm so.
Speaker B:I feel so special.
Speaker B:I was just like.
Speaker A:You are special.
Speaker A:I swear to God, you special.
Speaker A:Like I said, you want an incredible run.
Speaker A:I ain't seen a run like this in a long time, if ever.
Speaker B:Thank you, babe.
Speaker B:I appreciate that.
Speaker B:Well, I'm the type, if.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:I'm sure you the type, too.
Speaker B:We put it.
Speaker B:We put all in Mr. Capricorn, right here.
Speaker B:We put.
Speaker B:When we focused, we all.
Speaker B:Oh, that.
Speaker B:That shit clean, actually.
Speaker B:The guapi, I like that.
Speaker B:Who made that?
Speaker A:Oh, this guapi.
Speaker A:Little.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Yeah, you stunning.
Speaker A:It's that company that fuck with.
Speaker A:Oh, can I cuss.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:But you can.
Speaker B:You can be yourself.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Thank you for asking.
Speaker A:Now, this the company with Kodak, Black and NBA YoungBoy.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They got women stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:If they don't, they will.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's actually clean.
Speaker B:And it's the.
Speaker B:The material.
Speaker B:When I hugged you, it's like.
Speaker B:It's a material.
Speaker A:Oh, no, it wasn't the material.
Speaker A:That was me, baby.
Speaker B:This what I'm saying.
Speaker B:This one is too much.
Speaker B:He played.
Speaker B:You say I play.
Speaker B:He play way too much.
Speaker B:So listen, you on the move right now.
Speaker B:I see your videos.
Speaker B:I didn't seen them all.
Speaker B:Okay, I see his video.
Speaker B:You with J Style and Livewire.
Speaker B:I see you move like you moving West Oakland, B.
Speaker B:What's up?
Speaker B:And you remind me of.
Speaker B:I was just gonna say she next.
Speaker A:I need you Tuesday.
Speaker B:I need her next.
Speaker B:She didn't put west up.
Speaker B:She didn't put y' all on.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker A:Hey, for real.
Speaker A:We ain't put y' all on like this since nothing.
Speaker A:Shit.
Speaker B:Ever, Ever.
Speaker B:So Tuesday, I think I just seen actually a clip with a young lady saying, man, why y' all hating on West Oakland?
Speaker B:Y' all ain't letting us shine.
Speaker B:East Oakland stay shining.
Speaker B:Put a filter on that, right?
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:But I also had to say oakland is Oakland, though.
Speaker A:Oakland is Oakland.
Speaker B:You feel me?
Speaker B:Oakland.
Speaker B:We collectively won.
Speaker B:But I will say, I don't feel like we divided like that.
Speaker B:Me, personally, I never did.
Speaker B:I never did.
Speaker A:I'll tell you a secret about West Oakland.
Speaker A:Most folks from West Oakland and North Oakland, most of us, by the time we get my age, we done lived in East Oakland most of our lives.
Speaker A:There you go, you know, so, no, I. I never ever really felt the divide.
Speaker B:Me neither.
Speaker A:Between the.
Speaker A:The three sides of Oakland.
Speaker B:Me neither.
Speaker A:Like, unless, like, we roasting, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Unless we talking shit.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:They might say Oakland.
Speaker B:I mean, West Oakland.
Speaker B:A little ratchet.
Speaker B:Just a little bit.
Speaker A:We was the dirty little Westphalian, you know?
Speaker B:That's what she said.
Speaker A:Hey, it's all right.
Speaker A:Though my bounce back is ridiculous.
Speaker A:Ridiculous.
Speaker B:They can't mess with him.
Speaker B:They can't mess with him.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker B:Hey, listen, you putting it on for your city, period.
Speaker B:Our city, but West Oakland for sure.
Speaker B:Shout out to Tuesday.
Speaker B:Now, tell the people who's D. Mac, right?
Speaker B:Tell them who Mike, man.
Speaker A:D. Border.
Speaker A:Mac.
Speaker A:You know what you.
Speaker A:I mean, what you want to know?
Speaker A:Let's get more specific.
Speaker B:Tell them what they don't know about you.
Speaker B:How about that?
Speaker B:Don't know what they don't know.
Speaker B:I know a little bit, but I'm gonna let you tell it because I know what we have in common.
Speaker B:We both was macking.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, you probably.
Speaker B:You did it better than me, though.
Speaker A:It's in me.
Speaker A:Not on you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:It's in me.
Speaker A:Not on me, you know, M A, C, K. For real.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker A:But about me, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:Where would I start?
Speaker A:Where would I start, what they don't know about me?
Speaker A:Most people don't know that I don't drink.
Speaker A:Most people don't know that I don't drink no more.
Speaker B:Why is that?
Speaker B:We've talked about it, but let them know why.
Speaker A:Okay, okay.
Speaker A:Enough.
Speaker A:Cause enough was enough.
Speaker A:Enough was enough.
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure I had more than enough drink for anybody that's watching, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I had my fair share.
Speaker A:I had my.
Speaker A:I bumped my head enough, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Lessons and blessings.
Speaker A:But, yeah, like, a whole lot of people I grew up with, I'm pretty sure they got drinking memories with D Boy, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And a lot of people be like, you know, I remember the good old days, man, back in the day, man, the good old days.
Speaker A:And since I stopped drinking now, I'm living in the good old days right now, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I'm in the good old days, you feel me?
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:So I'm proud of you.
Speaker A:Money can't buy that.
Speaker A:Money can't buy that.
Speaker B:I'm proud of you.
Speaker A:I appreciate it, cuz.
Speaker B:Drinking is a hard habit to kick.
Speaker B:It's closest to heron, to be honest with you.
Speaker B:That's one of the hardest habits.
Speaker B:And cigarettes.
Speaker A:It took me 12 years to get my first 12 months of sobriety.
Speaker A:Not too long ago, I heard Mazzy, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Shout out Mazzy.
Speaker A:I heard Mazzy saying something about he.
Speaker A:He what?
Speaker A:He say he too popular or too cool to go to rehab.
Speaker B:Ooh.
Speaker A:And, man, it ain't no secret.
Speaker A:I went.
Speaker A:I had to go to rehab.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker A:A bunch of times, I like that.
Speaker A:But, you know, just like me and this music shit, I didn't give up, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I've been fucking with the music since I wrote my first rhyme when I was 8 and kept going and been through different rap groups, collectives, record labels, all of that shit.
Speaker A:The only difference between me and them, I kept going.
Speaker A:Only difference between me and the folks who tried to stop drinking and doing drugs, I kept trying.
Speaker A:That's the only difference, you know, Persistence, persistence, you know, I like that.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker A:Persistency is key.
Speaker B:It is, it is.
Speaker B:And a lot of people that struggle with like obtaining sobriety, they most of the time don't.
Speaker B:They really don't.
Speaker B:Or they whole life be down the drain where it's too late.
Speaker B:So I take my hat off to you where you, you literally made it on the other side.
Speaker B:You are the epitome of making it on the other side because you look good.
Speaker B:You definite dipped in love.
Speaker B:All kind of sources of love over there, you know.
Speaker B:And most people don't bounce back, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Because an addiction is serious.
Speaker A:I didn't think I was gonna bounce back, you know, Like I said, took me 12 years to get my first 12 months.
Speaker A:It was times when I was like, shit, maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe I'm supposed to be drunk for the rest of my life.
Speaker A:Dang.
Speaker A:You know, I was like, maybe I'm supposed to be just an example of wasted potential.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:That's what I thought I was.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:I'm like, God, like I would get out the hospital from like alcohol poisoning, swear up and down I'm gonna go to an AA meeting, I get out the hospital and go straight to the liquor store and hit the liquor store before I get home, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I. I remember one time I went to rehab and graduated, graduated rehab in San Francisco.
Speaker A:And I would say within about seven days I was drunk again, you know.
Speaker B:So what was your preference?
Speaker B:It was hard liquor, I'm sure.
Speaker A:Hard liquor.
Speaker A:80 Proof liquor, you know, like.
Speaker A:So when the money is good, you start buying privilege.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Belvedere Gray goose, you know.
Speaker A:And then by the time, by the time it's all said and done, you back drinking ENJ and shit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hey, you know what?
Speaker A:I thank the Lord though.
Speaker A:I thank the Lord.
Speaker A:I never bought taco.
Speaker A:I never hit taco.
Speaker A:Well, no, no, no, no.
Speaker A:I drank taco.
Speaker A:I never bought tacos.
Speaker A:I never bought taco.
Speaker B:Most alcoholics drink any dang on thing.
Speaker A:To be honest with you, man, that was one of the few.
Speaker A:Hey, God bless babies and fools, man.
Speaker A:And I was a goddamn fool for real.
Speaker A:So yeah, I never had to buy taco vodka, man.
Speaker A:But I drunk enough enjoy to keep that family alive forever.
Speaker A:I can joke straight the fuck up.
Speaker A:Straight up.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker B:That's funny you say that.
Speaker B:I never really.
Speaker B:Do you smoke?
Speaker A:Nah, I. I was known for selling hella weed Gotcha.
Speaker A:I sold acres and acres of weed whack.
Speaker A:Got it.
Speaker A:But nah, I smoked tobacco.
Speaker A:And luckily.
Speaker A:Luckily with the tobacco, you know, that was easy to quit.
Speaker A:Easy.
Speaker A:Easy peasy.
Speaker B:I'm looking at Pete.
Speaker B:Cause P quit smoking.
Speaker B:What we on two months.
Speaker B:Almost.
Speaker B:Almost two months cold turkey.
Speaker B:And I did the same thing.
Speaker B:I smoked.
Speaker B:I picked up my first cigarette at 11.
Speaker B:11 Years old, and I was smoking new poops 100.
Speaker B:I used to have all the crackheads going there on 5, 7, go buy me all my cigarettes.
Speaker B:And to me, it was hard quitting.
Speaker B:I couldn't go anywhere without smoking a cigarette.
Speaker B:Like, when I get up, I need a cigarette.
Speaker B:Or when I go to the bathroom, I need a cigarette when I'm getting in a car.
Speaker B:Like, I just.
Speaker B:Is you.
Speaker B:It's probably, what, every five, seven minutes, you need a cigarette.
Speaker B:You smoke a pack a day.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Then if it's 24 hours in a day, you got 20 cigarettes, you, you, you on your next pack.
Speaker B:But you need triggers.
Speaker A:So I. I have my triggers.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:When I'm editing, like, I get up, like, every five to six minutes.
Speaker B:No, dead serious.
Speaker B:That's how I was, too.
Speaker B:Like, for real.
Speaker B:When I was this, now this.
Speaker B:Let's just keep it 100 on.
Speaker B:Why I wanted you on the show.
Speaker B:We're talking about triggers.
Speaker B:I wanted you on the show because I trigger you.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker A:I trigger you.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Yes, you do, love.
Speaker A:I know that's right.
Speaker A:Ooh, Weez.
Speaker B:I hate him.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Right, Percy.
Speaker B:Cause Percy triggered me, too.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:You the special club.
Speaker A:Yeah, y' all is.
Speaker B:No, but I wanted Joe.
Speaker B:But on this show, shout out to Kapone, my cousin, he was like, bro, you gotta have him on the show.
Speaker B:And I'm like, why?
Speaker B:I don't know him.
Speaker A:Boss man, what's happening?
Speaker B:You gotta have him on the show.
Speaker B:He's like, you know, he's Big Mac.
Speaker B:He could relate to you.
Speaker B:I said, ooh, you right, cuz.
Speaker B:So you know, I wrote my book, Hold a CEO.
Speaker B:I got you one.
Speaker B:But you got to read my book.
Speaker B:Percy read it.
Speaker B:He said it was really, really good.
Speaker B:Really, really intriguing.
Speaker B:And it's just to know me, but a lot of it.
Speaker B:Why I wanted you on the show.
Speaker B:Cause I had strippers, I had prostitutes, you know, And I had a lot.
Speaker B:But I ain't had a Mac yet.
Speaker B:So I really wanted you on the show because you're on the different side of it, and I wanted to.
Speaker B:Of course, we not in the game no more.
Speaker B:This is all old stuff.
Speaker B:But I'm just saying.
Speaker B:Or is we.
Speaker B:I'm joking.
Speaker B:That was a joke.
Speaker B:No, we're not in the game.
Speaker B:The man has changed his life.
Speaker B:He works.
Speaker B:He's a great man.
Speaker B:And he just be dipped for no reason.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:But for no apparent reason to wake up, he dipped in so much sauce, it's ridiculous.
Speaker B:Okay, he dripping now.
Speaker B:But I wanted to know because to me, when I got in, when I got into the game, you know, of prostitution, it was a hard.
Speaker B:That's a hard knock life.
Speaker B:It just really is.
Speaker B:Let's just keep it 100.
Speaker B:You always in a manipulating moment.
Speaker B:You're always hustling.
Speaker B:And I was just curious with you.
Speaker B:The reason why I got into it because I got hot on the neck.
Speaker B:Because I was robbing everybody.
Speaker B:All the tricks, right?
Speaker B:All the Johns.
Speaker B:So it made me turn to the life of getting girls to do stuff for me.
Speaker B:And that's when I realized, like, oh, I might be built different because they doing tricks me.
Speaker B:And I ain't got to do nothing.
Speaker B:I ain't gay.
Speaker B:I ain't doing nothing.
Speaker B:They just giving me money.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:What was that The M&YO MAX stand for Manipulation, huh?
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:I was a. I was a. I would say mastermind.
Speaker A:Mastermind.
Speaker B:That's why my PhD is in psychology, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:But I was a mastermind at knowing how to read people.
Speaker B:And I. I act how you act.
Speaker B:Like, I adapt, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You get what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So I know how to, like, adapt.
Speaker B:So for you, what was your first experience with your first prostitute?
Speaker B:If that.
Speaker B:If we'll say like that.
Speaker B:Or macking experience, like educate people.
Speaker B:I see that.
Speaker B:See, I see.
Speaker B:I read language now.
Speaker B:I'm reading that right leg.
Speaker B:I know that's a good one right now.
Speaker A:So long story short, as long.
Speaker A:As short as I can make it.
Speaker A:I remember.
Speaker A:So we had moved from.
Speaker A:From West Oakland to East Oakland, and from East Oakland, we moved to Hayward.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And you know, a whole lot of the folks from Oak, damn near all the black folks at that time that was in Hayward was from Oakland.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker A:And at that time, age 15, 14, 14, 15, 16.
Speaker A:For them, the big.
Speaker A:The big thing was, was robbing folks, robbing stores and restaurants and.
Speaker A:And selling.
Speaker A:And trying to sell crack.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So crack powder, my thing.
Speaker A:I just kept seeing them get caught, get caught, get caught, get caught.
Speaker A:My whole click.
Speaker A:I remember one day I'm gonna get back to the story, but one day, one day my whole clique went to jail the same day for hella different.
Speaker A:For hella different crimes.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:The same day my cousin Biggie.
Speaker A:Shout out Biggie.
Speaker A:My cousin Biggie went to jail for robbing the subway.
Speaker A:His partner went to jail for this.
Speaker A:This partner went to jail for that.
Speaker A:But anyway, long story short, what seemed the, the.
Speaker A:The for me to pick a poison, it was females, right?
Speaker A:And the way I.
Speaker A:The way I, you know, went from just having sex with all, you know, as many girls as possible.
Speaker A:Back in high school, I went to brag to my uncle, shout out my uncle Dre.
Speaker B:I know this story.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, no, but I need the people to know.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I go to brag to my uncle Dre that I fucked this fine ass little broad.
Speaker A:I was about 14, right?
Speaker A:I think I was.
Speaker A:Nah, was I 15?
Speaker A:You told me 14, okay?
Speaker A:Somewhere right around there.
Speaker A:And I said, unc, man, ooh, fuck this badass bitch.
Speaker A:Da da, da da da.
Speaker A:That nigga said so.
Speaker A:First thing that went through my mind was, you hater, nigga.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:How you mean so, nigga, you right.
Speaker A:But I hella look up to my uncle, right?
Speaker A:So I'm like, he like, say, you ain't got no problem getting a.
Speaker A:To open her legs, nigga.
Speaker A:He said, how much money did you get up out of her?
Speaker A:And me being the quick motherfucker that I am, I had nothing to say.
Speaker A:I ain't getting.
Speaker A:Want to get some nigga.
Speaker A:I up this at the school.
Speaker A:How much money did you get?
Speaker A:About that, right?
Speaker A:I felt less than.
Speaker A:I felt less than in a.
Speaker A:Right, you know, I thought I was man.
Speaker A:So anyway, long story short, I wanted to show my uncle, okay, fine, I know how to do something more than just fuck these bros, you know?
Speaker A:And I just.
Speaker A:I don't know, I just became so fascinated with pimping everything.
Speaker A:It was more fascinating than the idea of selling drugs.
Speaker A:It was more fascinating than crippin blood.
Speaker A:It was more fascinating than anything that was going on.
Speaker A:Manipulating a female to go have sex and bring me the money.
Speaker A:And at that time, at that young ass age, I thought that was like the epitome of a man, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I thought that was man.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:You know what I could keep saying.
Speaker A:I thought in that time frame it was manly.
Speaker A:Manly as masculine.
Speaker A:It was something to be proud of.
Speaker A:And I kept trying and trying and trying.
Speaker A:And I touched my first hoe dollar I received, you know, from a hoe.
Speaker A:I was about 17.
Speaker A:About 17.
Speaker A:She placed it in my palm, you know, and I couldn't wait to tell him.
Speaker A:Run back and tell now.
Speaker A:Nigga told you she cashed me out.
Speaker A:He said, how.
Speaker A:How much you get?
Speaker A:I got a hundred dollars.
Speaker A:He said, that's it.
Speaker A:I said, this.
Speaker A:You know, this back when you can hang the phone up.
Speaker A:So, you know, just like you said earlier, anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
Speaker A:And so I just was set up on this mission to keep going.
Speaker A:And eventually it came to an end.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I don't know if you want to go into the story of how it came.
Speaker B:I'm curious because mine did, because, one, I went to jail, and then I got pregnant.
Speaker B:So, of course, me, you know, being.
Speaker A:In the industry, I was amazing.
Speaker A:You go to jail and get pregnant?
Speaker A:She got pregnant in jail.
Speaker B:No, I did not, stupid.
Speaker B:I got make sure that was on air.
Speaker B:I went to jail, and it changed my life.
Speaker B:And I said, ooh, jail ain't for me.
Speaker B:Cause I could relate a lot of people that I was dealing with, the guys and all my boys from the hood, they was going to jail for selling dope and all, and they getting time.
Speaker B:I'm like, I ain't finna be doing nothing like that where I'm finna be going to jail, getting time like that.
Speaker B:Every time I went to jail with prostitution, you get out the next day, okay.
Speaker B:And bail is a couple dollars, you know?
Speaker B:So I was like, oh, this is the industry right here.
Speaker B:Cause I can make a gang of money, go to jail, get out the next day.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, I'm in.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:So I could kind of relate when you say with your homeboys.
Speaker B:But what got me out personally was out the game itself was when I got pregnant and met my baby's father.
Speaker B:But what got you out the game?
Speaker A:So eventually, long story short, so like, I spoke about the alcoholism, right?
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And just how.
Speaker A:How much alcohol had.
Speaker A:Had took over my life and influence.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And so for one, you know, I'm gonna be.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be honest as fuck.
Speaker A:Drinking made pimping and any other criminal activity, I was doing that much easier.
Speaker A:I was just gonna say a whole lot of.
Speaker A:Is gonna lie and say, you know, I ain't had to do no drugs to drink.
Speaker A:I ain't had to do nothing to the pimp.
Speaker A:It ain't.
Speaker A:Most is lying.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:You know, most is lying.
Speaker A:And so one, the drinking, it helped me to keep that.
Speaker A:Just that.
Speaker A:That cold.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:It helped me to keep my heart as cold as possible.
Speaker A:You know, it helped me to keep my Heart as cold as possible.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But long story short, if I can try to make this long story short, when I kept trying to, you know, stay sober, it wasn't working.
Speaker A:It wasn't working.
Speaker A:It wasn't working.
Speaker A:And somebody told me, so I get ready to get up out of rehab one time, and he was like, ain't you excited?
Speaker A:One of the staff members was like, ain't you excited?
Speaker A:I said, nah, but what.
Speaker A:Not really.
Speaker A:I said, nigga, I'd have been to rehab hella times.
Speaker A:I always go home, and I might last for about a month, and then I'm gonna drink again.
Speaker A:I said.
Speaker A:He was like, man, you gotta read this book.
Speaker A:So he's showing me the AA book.
Speaker A:I said, bruh, I know that book by heart.
Speaker A:I said, y' all got me teaching the class.
Speaker A:The Alcoholics Anonymous book, right?
Speaker A:I said, man, that book.
Speaker A:He said, you know, about heart, right?
Speaker A:I said, yeah.
Speaker A:He said, okay, well, when you gonna take it out your mind and put it in your soul?
Speaker A:I was like, you mean.
Speaker A:I was like, God damn, that's some cold game.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah.
Speaker A:It's one thing to know the information.
Speaker A:It's another thing to utilize the information, use.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker A:And so I think that's the difference between intelligence and wisdom.
Speaker A:Anybody could have the intelligence, you know, so you can look on your phone and get the knowledge.
Speaker A:When you utilize that knowledge and start living that knowledge, that's wisdom.
Speaker A:And from that day forward, I never drank again.
Speaker A:And so what I realized was I had to.
Speaker A:I had to change people, places and things.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And if I wanted to do something, have something different, I needed to do something different.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:So that's when I.
Speaker A:That was so.
Speaker A:One of the things I let go was.
Speaker A:Was pimping was.
Speaker A:Was trying to be the.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:The coldest thug, the best drug dealer, the best pimp.
Speaker A:I had to let all that shit go.
Speaker A:Cause it was ego.
Speaker B:That's all it is.
Speaker A:And that's all it is.
Speaker A:And what I.
Speaker A:What I really learned was I'm not D Boy to Mac.
Speaker A:D Boy to Mac is the character that Darian created.
Speaker A:So living as D Boy to Mac was killing me.
Speaker A:Oh, living as.
Speaker A:Living as D. Border Mac kept me going to jail.
Speaker A:Living as D Boy to Matt, kept me going to rehab.
Speaker A:Living as Deep Water Mac Kevin, the high speed chases, shootouts, fights, and all this whole other shit.
Speaker A:Living up to being D Boy, the Mac.
Speaker A:And so once I left that rehab, I started nourishing Darian Evans and the more I poured into Darian Evans is when I realized that D Boy the Mac, is the character.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:It's nothing fake about D Boy the Mac.
Speaker A:And that was really the lifestyle that I was living.
Speaker A:But I'm not De Border Mack.
Speaker A:I'm Darian Evans.
Speaker A:The father, the son, the neighbor, the friend.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And so once I became Darian Evans again and started nourishing Darian Evans, that's when I got closer to God.
Speaker A:God.
Speaker A:God keep me sober.
Speaker A:I ain't doing it.
Speaker A:Y. I told you.
Speaker A:I told you.
Speaker A:It took me 12 years to get my first 12 months.
Speaker A:12 Months.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Cause that was me trying to get sober.
Speaker A:That was me trying to stop.
Speaker A:Keep alcohol out my mouth when I let God do it.
Speaker A:I ain't drank since.
Speaker B:Now, I know you have children.
Speaker B:Would you want your daughter to date Darian Evans?
Speaker B:Now?
Speaker A:Shit, I wouldn't even date Darian Evans.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:I want my daughter to date somebody like me.
Speaker B:But you gotta even think about it is tickling and behooving.
Speaker A:Cause I want somebody flawless for my daughter.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And I'm not flawless.
Speaker A:I'm not flawless.
Speaker A:But you know what?
Speaker A:But I'm.
Speaker A:I'm definitely a work in progress.
Speaker A:And I've made amazing progress.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker A:I've made amazing progress.
Speaker A:And so, yes, if my daughter was to meet a man who was as determined to improve his life.
Speaker B:No, I said a Darian Evans, would you want your daughter to date you as of right now?
Speaker B:And if not, why not?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And what makes you a good man for your daughter?
Speaker A:Constantly.
Speaker A:Constantly trying to get better.
Speaker A:I've learned what's important.
Speaker A:You know, Even though y' all see the gold diamonds and the leather and shit, that's.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That's for this entertainment shit.
Speaker A:You know, when the cameras go off.
Speaker A:I'm nourishing being a man.
Speaker A:You know, I'm nourishing being a father.
Speaker A:I'm nourishing anger management, emotional regulation.
Speaker A:You know, I don't changing my mindset about violence.
Speaker A:You know, we come from a.
Speaker A:We come from a place in era where violence is.
Speaker A:Is what makes you manly.
Speaker A:Shooting somebody is a right.
Speaker A:Is a.
Speaker A:A rite of passage.
Speaker A:I'm lucky.
Speaker A:I'm lucky that I made it this far to realize that, you know, that was a good.
Speaker A:I was looking up to the wrong people.
Speaker B:But that really, to me ain't your fault.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Let's just be clear.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, you look at It.
Speaker A:I don't feel like it's my fault, but it's my responsibility to fix it.
Speaker B:Awareness.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I feel like that now.
Speaker B:How old are you?
Speaker B:I think we talked about that.
Speaker A:You want me to tell it on camera?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm 43.
Speaker A:I'm 44.
Speaker A:I'm old enough to be your daddy.
Speaker B:You better stop your playing, bro.
Speaker B:I can't curse on the camera.
Speaker B:You better stop playing.
Speaker A:Stop playing.
Speaker B:Be so silly.
Speaker A:Stop playing.
Speaker B:She gonna call daddy off once I get my girl.
Speaker B:My diamonds.
Speaker B:I need some diamonds.
Speaker B:Okay, look, now they playing.
Speaker B:You see that?
Speaker B:They playing when you need something.
Speaker B:No, but anyway.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Do it look like I can afford to buy somebody some diamonds?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:That's why I'm like, yeah, daddy.
Speaker A:I just look like this.
Speaker A:Let my haters tell it.
Speaker A:This ain't real.
Speaker B:Listen, who cares, okay?
Speaker B:It don't matter.
Speaker B:Whatever makes you comfortable is what makes you comfortable.
Speaker B:Because what I'm learning at 43 years old, and this is the most successful people, they don't give a dang what nobody think.
Speaker B:I care less what anybody thinks about me because you know what?
Speaker B:I'm still gonna continue my mission.
Speaker B:I'm still gonna be me, and I'm still gonna do me.
Speaker B:And it's crazy.
Speaker B:We were just talking about this because one thing I've learned is not to take favors from people.
Speaker B:And it's so sad because I'm such a given person and I like to help everybody.
Speaker B:And, you know, like, you know, I give out the Versace and all this.
Speaker B:That's genuine from my heart.
Speaker B:Ain't nobody doing that.
Speaker B:I ain't got to do that.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:But at the end of the day, when people do stuff for you, they feel entitled.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And I struggle with people that feel entitled.
Speaker B:I just cut them all the way off.
Speaker B:And I don't even want to do business with that.
Speaker B:Do you go through that, like, being in the industry?
Speaker B:Because I know you work with Jason, but shout out to Jay Stallon, my guy.
Speaker B:I love Jay Stalin.
Speaker B:Shout out to him.
Speaker B:Very proud of him, his success, his endeavors.
Speaker B:He put a lot of people on.
Speaker B:He helping a lot of people in the industry.
Speaker B:So shout out to him.
Speaker B:Unlike a lot of these other Bay Area rappers, we ain't even going to get into it.
Speaker B:But Jason, I love live Wire Foots was supposed to come.
Speaker A:Foot supposed to.
Speaker B:He was late.
Speaker B:I canceled him.
Speaker B:Yes, indeed.
Speaker A:He said he was going to be 15 minutes later.
Speaker B:Cancel, I said.
Speaker B:Stan saying playing.
Speaker A:I said, bro, she is not on no period.
Speaker A:She don't play that.
Speaker B:This is corporate over here.
Speaker A:Corporate.
Speaker B:This is corporate.
Speaker B:So come correct.
Speaker A:You could come with bruh today.
Speaker B:Cancel, right?
Speaker B:Percy, he was so proud of me.
Speaker B:And I said, wait, where's D?
Speaker B:Cause if he ain't here, he canceled too.
Speaker B:He said, oh, no, he's sitting right there.
Speaker B:I said, my God.
Speaker B:Cause I seen the text.
Speaker B:He said, Dr. St.
Speaker A:I'm here.
Speaker B:No, this is the thing.
Speaker B:People gotta respect your time.
Speaker B:Because when you're late, that's disrespectful.
Speaker A:I'm learning to accept that it's disrespectful.
Speaker B:My time is valuable.
Speaker A:I'm one of the most latest that I ever met you.
Speaker B:Wasn't a date.
Speaker B:I take you serious and I appreciate that.
Speaker A:I take you serious.
Speaker B:You do not even.
Speaker B:You take.
Speaker B:You take me serious, but you respect me and that's what I love.
Speaker B:And I appreciate you for that because.
Speaker B:And not saying foot.
Speaker B:Shout out to foots.
Speaker B:He don't respect.
Speaker B:He just didn't respect the time, though.
Speaker B:So there's repercussions to that.
Speaker B:That's repercussions.
Speaker B:It's cancellation.
Speaker A:Shout out foreign boys.
Speaker A:Lv lv the Don Foots drop down.
Speaker B:I actually met footage.
Speaker B:He was here with Compton A.V.
Speaker B:Shout out to Compton A.V.
Speaker B:That came 75 deep.
Speaker A:That sound about right?
Speaker A:Shout out Compton A.V.
Speaker B:I was living.
Speaker A:She don't do.
Speaker A:I'm bumping the microphone.
Speaker A:She does not do yo.
Speaker B:No more.
Speaker B:I am corporate, people.
Speaker A:She graduated from respected.
Speaker B:Yes, I am corporate.
Speaker B:And I. I'm trying to elevate and bring all my people to corporation stuff.
Speaker B:Like, let's leave it behind.
Speaker A:We know what money tastes like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Black excellence.
Speaker A:When we gonna taste black?
Speaker A:Excellent money.
Speaker A:Black excellence.
Speaker B:And let's not get it twisted, though.
Speaker B:You could still be dipped and still be corporate.
Speaker B:You can still be yourself and your culture and be corporate.
Speaker B:Because that's just like me, because I got a PhD and they call me Dr. Stans.
Speaker B:They have this expectation of me.
Speaker B:Swallow that.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Because I'm still gonna be me.
Speaker B:So that's why I respect you as a man.
Speaker B:To even come on here and say that you were an alcoholic and now you clean and went to aa.
Speaker A:One thing I.
Speaker B:A lot of people won't say that.
Speaker A:One thing I will correct.
Speaker A:I'm still an alcoholic, right?
Speaker A:People.
Speaker A:People feel like, oh, if you haven't had a drink, you're not an alcoholic no more.
Speaker A:No, you still see alcoholism is a disease, right?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And people be like, no, you're not an alcoholic no more.
Speaker A:You have Been drinking almost six years.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But as soon as I take a sip of.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna be able to take a sip.
Speaker A:I will be right back to drinking fifths.
Speaker A:Two fifths a day.
Speaker B:I disagree.
Speaker A:One.
Speaker A:A one is too many, and a thousand is never enough.
Speaker B:I disagree.
Speaker B:I disagree with you because that's just like saying, I'm a smoker.
Speaker B:I'm not a smoker.
Speaker B:I quit.
Speaker B:Like, if I quit, I quit.
Speaker B:Stand on business.
Speaker A:Smokers are.
Speaker A:Is.
Speaker A:Smoker is not a disease.
Speaker A:Alcoholism is a disease.
Speaker B:You can get lung cancer.
Speaker B:No, you get lung cancer.
Speaker A:Smoking causes disease, Causes lung cancer.
Speaker A:Alcoholism is a scientific, medically recognized disease.
Speaker B:What Dr. Stan just created.
Speaker B:Smokeism.
Speaker A:Smokeism, okay.
Speaker B:And at the end of the day, it's still an addiction.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Anything that.
Speaker A:Addiction is a disease.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:I was just gonna say addiction is a disease.
Speaker A:Medically recognized disease.
Speaker A:So it's a mental disorder.
Speaker B:So for me, I don't feel like you're an alcoholic because you have.
Speaker B:First of all, don't even walk around carrying that.
Speaker B:You're healed.
Speaker B:People heal, and we change.
Speaker A:Yes, indeed.
Speaker B:So technically, you're not an alcoholic.
Speaker B:You were an alcoholic.
Speaker B:But right now, no, you are present beautiful black being.
Speaker B:That's a man living in today's society.
Speaker B:That's tough.
Speaker B:So to me, let's just keep it all the way 1.
Speaker B:Honey, the fact that even where I met you at Fab's bowling thing, everybody in there drink.
Speaker B:It's a whole bar in there.
Speaker B:You could have easily went and got a drink.
Speaker B:But the fact that you can be in a room with other people that are alcoholics that do drink, that shows power right there.
Speaker B:So give yourself more credit.
Speaker B:You are not an alcohol.
Speaker B:Don't even claim that straight up.
Speaker B:You are not an alcoholic.
Speaker B:Because I. I know alcoholics, and you are not.
Speaker B:So you look good, though.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:I feel good.
Speaker B:I definitely want my roses and the diamond next to now.
Speaker B:Are you single?
Speaker A:How many more roses you want?
Speaker B:Every day I gotta give you rose.
Speaker B:I gotta set the bar for my foster youth.
Speaker A:See what happens.
Speaker B:They need to know.
Speaker A:See, one rose is too many, and a thousand is never enough.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:Look.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm gonna get you right here.
Speaker B:When you want your daughter to want roses from a man every day or want some type of gifts, and that's my love language.
Speaker B:I get you every time with the daughter.
Speaker B:Cause you look away.
Speaker B:Wouldn't you want your daughter or a man to, like, buy roses for your daughter every day because she's special.
Speaker A:She has a man.
Speaker A:I'm realistic of flowers every day in the house.
Speaker A:That ain't going to work now.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Flowers every day in the house.
Speaker B:Every day?
Speaker A:Every day.
Speaker A:Good God.
Speaker B:At least five days a week.
Speaker A:Five days a week.
Speaker B:And ain't got to be roses or expensive.
Speaker B:Just give me a fly.
Speaker B:Show me some type of love.
Speaker A:Some type of love?
Speaker B:Yeah, let's talk about that.
Speaker B:What's like, are you single?
Speaker B:I asked you that.
Speaker B:You tried to skip.
Speaker A:I'm single, okay?
Speaker A:All my understand, I'm single.
Speaker B:Oh, my gracious.
Speaker A:Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker A:Cut that point.
Speaker A:No, no, I've been single.
Speaker A:I've been single for quite some time.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:And that's when I've done my most growing.
Speaker A:The most growing I've done is single facts.
Speaker B:Me too.
Speaker A:Solo bolo.
Speaker B:So you celibate?
Speaker A:Celibate?
Speaker A:I celibitch.
Speaker A:I celibitch a dream.
Speaker A:I celibate here, I celibitch there.
Speaker A:No, I haven't sold bitches in a long time.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker A:I have not celt a bitch in a long time.
Speaker A:Do you celibitch?
Speaker B:Yeah, actually I've been celibate for like six months.
Speaker A:Oh, celibate.
Speaker B:What you thought I said celibitch?
Speaker B:I thought you really was joking and was playing off the road.
Speaker A:I am really joking.
Speaker B:So is you celibate or what we doing?
Speaker B:Is you celibate for real?
Speaker A:No, I'm not celibate.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Am I celibate?
Speaker A:Shit.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:Let me tell you something.
Speaker A:One thing about.
Speaker B:I have to sit up for me,.
Speaker A:I have to sit up for this one thing about stopping drinking and smoking and drugs.
Speaker A:That's when you start to grow, right?
Speaker A:Like really grow mentally, seriously, emotionally, all of that shit.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And one of the things that one of my areas of growth is putting is changing the priority level of pussy.
Speaker A:You know, just me being a man.
Speaker A:The priority of pussy has been up here for quite some time.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:But as I'm growing, I'm placing it at a different priority.
Speaker A:And I'm getting more done now that I'm not having sex all the time.
Speaker A:Different women and this and that.
Speaker B:What gets old.
Speaker A:Pussy never gets old.
Speaker A:Oh, but pussy is just the right age.
Speaker B:Well, this is the thing I feel like.
Speaker A:No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:When there's no substance to it, that because what you're doing is wearing the value out in your wee wee.
Speaker A:I. I can agree.
Speaker B:You get what I'm saying?
Speaker B:You're, you're, you're, you're, you're.
Speaker A:And I'm my spirit, I'm a soul all that.
Speaker B:It's, it's.
Speaker B:It, it.
Speaker B:It literally drains you when you deal with so many different women.
Speaker B:And I don't think men understand that.
Speaker B:And then they wonder why they walk around crazy.
Speaker B:But when you deal with so huh.
Speaker A:A bunch of soul ties, period, when.
Speaker B:You do that is actually extremely unhealthy.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Because now even if you don't catch a disease, even if you don't do.
Speaker B:That, it's still a soul tie.
Speaker B:And I think those toxic ties make this not perform correctly at times, especially when you get of an older age.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:So I wonder, has alcohol affected that area?
Speaker B:No, actually, I know that's a lie.
Speaker B:It actually makes it probably better both.
Speaker A:See alcohol with alcoholism.
Speaker A:For me, I'm over here stuttering.
Speaker B:That stance ain't make you uncomfortable, is she?
Speaker A:I'm so comfortable with you.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I'm so comfortable with you.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:This gonna go viral, me and you on this.
Speaker A:Nah.
Speaker A:Oh, wait.
Speaker A:What the question was.
Speaker B:I didn't forgot Percy.
Speaker B:What the damn question was.
Speaker B:Alcohol affect your wee wee.
Speaker B:See.
Speaker B:So look, I didn't forgot to.
Speaker B:I'm not looking.
Speaker A:I'm one of the hugest reasons.
Speaker A:I quit alcohol because alcohol stopped doing for me and started doing to me.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:So I remember back in the good old days when you drank and.
Speaker A:And enhanced sex like a.
Speaker B:It do.
Speaker A:It enhanced the sex.
Speaker A:My level of drinking got so high that I would invite a woman over to have sex and drinking was the priority.
Speaker A:We wouldn't even fuck.
Speaker A:It wasn't that per se.
Speaker A:I. I couldn't get hard or whatever.
Speaker A:That might have happened before too.
Speaker A:I'm sure.
Speaker A:But the biggest thing was I didn't even care to even try to fuck because alcohol.
Speaker A:The alcohol was more important.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:You know, and then typically you attract what you tend.
Speaker A:We tend to attract what we are.
Speaker B:Yes, we do.
Speaker A:So if I'm drinking at this level, I'm attracting females that drink at this level.
Speaker B:Oh, toxic.
Speaker A:And so we would.
Speaker A:So if I'm drinking like that and she drinking like that, she come over.
Speaker A:We both think we finna.
Speaker A:We don't.
Speaker A:We drank and passed the out.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:So alcohol stopped doing for me.
Speaker A:Started doing to me.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Nah.
Speaker A:Nowadays.
Speaker A:Nowadays.
Speaker A:Nowadays sex and lust is a.
Speaker A:Is.
Speaker A:Is prioritized.
Speaker A:Way more healthy for me now.
Speaker A:Way more.
Speaker B:Congratulations.
Speaker A:And I knew I was growing when I turned down bad.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:And I'm.
Speaker A:I'm not just that.
Speaker A:That's not to brag.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:That's just a statement.
Speaker A:That's Fact, previously, I was not able.
Speaker A:I didn't want to turn down a bad bitch.
Speaker A:I wanted to show every single female how good my dick was.
Speaker B:I got a question.
Speaker A:Talk to me.
Speaker B:What's a bad b.
Speaker A:What is a bad bitch?
Speaker A:It depends on who you ask.
Speaker A:But I guess asking me, okay, does that woman consider herself to be a bitch?
Speaker A:For one.
Speaker A:So if, say, for instance, I considered a woman to be a bad bitch, she say, I'm not a bitch.
Speaker A:Well, then, no, she's not a bad bitch.
Speaker A:She's probably a strong woman, but typically a bad bitch.
Speaker A:Typically, you know, a woman who got it up out the mud.
Speaker A:A woman who came from.
Speaker A:Probably came from nothing to something.
Speaker A:Got her shit together.
Speaker A:A high value woman.
Speaker A:A high value woman.
Speaker A:Or, excuse me, I wouldn't even say a high value woman.
Speaker A:A high value bitch is a bad bitch.
Speaker A:A high value bitch is a bad bitch.
Speaker B:And what is that?
Speaker B:I want you to elaborate.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Cause I think I just had Titi Dwin on here where she was talking about a high value woman.
Speaker B:Cause to me, what a high value man is.
Speaker B:I'll tell you what, my perception of a high value man is one that knows himself.
Speaker B:And it's not necessarily about money.
Speaker B:It's more or less about knowing how to treat a woman.
Speaker B:Loving yourself first, of course.
Speaker B:And most importantly, loving God first.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You know, and making sure, you know, being thoughtful like this.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker B:You definitely.
Speaker B:You thought, I don't know if this was a Mac or if this was D Boy or Mackin or if this was.
Speaker B:Darian brought me this.
Speaker B:Who bought me these?
Speaker A:Darian bought them flowers.
Speaker A:D Boy said, nigga, sit your square ass down.
Speaker A:Stop embarrassing yourself.
Speaker A:That's what D Boy told Darian.
Speaker A:See, D Bo the Mac is Darian's stunt double.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Alter ego.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's the alter ego.
Speaker A:Dwar, the Mac is the stunt double.
Speaker A:I'm tickled, man.
Speaker B:No, no, no, you did.
Speaker B:You did very good.
Speaker B:I feel like a real man.
Speaker B:You recognize I'm a genuine woman.
Speaker B:We had conversations.
Speaker B:We just talked on the phone.
Speaker B:You know, you recognize I'm a real one.
Speaker B:So therefore, you did a real act.
Speaker B:That's a smart man.
Speaker B:Like, you know, we.
Speaker B:I'm in motion.
Speaker B:You know, I got my network.
Speaker B:I need your movies on.
Speaker A:Proud of you.
Speaker B:I need your movies on there.
Speaker A:Let's talk about the movie when we get a chance.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:Let's talk about it.
Speaker B:Actually, right now.
Speaker A:Let's get to that.
Speaker B:Because, you know, like, they know.
Speaker B:Shout out to Be with studio.
Speaker B:Just started my own network.
Speaker B:I got a couple shows up there.
Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker B:I'm so excited.
Speaker A:Production team Percy Production Shout out Percy Yo, Percy.
Speaker B:Shot.
Speaker B:What's your business?
Speaker B:Percy Baby P. Hey.
Speaker B:The dopest producer I know.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I want your stud.
Speaker B:Tell me about the movie, the one you just came.
Speaker B:I'm so excited.
Speaker A:But I'm still working on it.
Speaker A:We still working on it.
Speaker B:I need it.
Speaker A:It is called.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Cut this part out.
Speaker A:What's the.
Speaker A:My Brother's Keeper.
Speaker B:Keep that party.
Speaker A:Shout out Chris Evans Christopher Evans, producer and director out of Oakland.
Speaker A:I don't know if we go.
Speaker A:I should let the cat out the back.
Speaker A:But I'm gonna let the cat out the bag.
Speaker A:Chris Evans is my real blood cousin.
Speaker B:I was just gonna ask.
Speaker B:Is that your family?
Speaker B:Because it's Evans.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:He's my real blood cousin.
Speaker A:I'm hella proud of him.
Speaker A:Shout out Ryan Coogler.
Speaker A:But I think Chris Evans got the potential to surpass Ryan Coogler.
Speaker A:He really do.
Speaker A:Professionalism.
Speaker A:And when we.
Speaker A:When we.
Speaker A:When we spoke about high value men and placing, you know, being corp.
Speaker A:Going from money to corporate, being a. Yeah.
Speaker A:Black.
Speaker A:Excellence in corporate.
Speaker A:Chris Evans.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker A:So I'm.
Speaker A:I'm super proud to be a.
Speaker A:A part of My Brother's Keeper.
Speaker A:In the movie.
Speaker A:I play the role.
Speaker A:Bricks.
Speaker A:Antonio Briggs is my name.
Speaker B:What is.
Speaker B:What was your.
Speaker B:All right, now.
Speaker A:What was your character, of all things?
Speaker A:I'm a drug dealer.
Speaker A:That's all I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker A:Am I an antagonist or the protagonist?
Speaker A:Y' all gonna have to find out.
Speaker B:I wanna see.
Speaker A:I wanna see.
Speaker B:I wanna see.
Speaker B:When is it coming?
Speaker B:Tell the people.
Speaker B:When do we expect to see it?
Speaker A:Summertime.
Speaker A:Summertime.
Speaker A:So we thinking.
Speaker A:I think realistically, I'm thinking August.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But Chris said it's gonna be out by July.
Speaker A:Early July.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker B:I need it on that network, man.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I promised to God.
Speaker A:I told him about you.
Speaker B:Did you?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:He couldn't make it.
Speaker A:He couldn't make it today because he is recording.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:At work.
Speaker A:My Brother's keeper is his baby.
Speaker A:Like, this is his first movie.
Speaker A:He's your baby.
Speaker A:It's not his first movie, but this is his biggest.
Speaker B:This is his biggest one.
Speaker A:And the script is so he.
Speaker A:Man, he didn't miss a corner.
Speaker A:He dotted every.
Speaker A:I crossed every T. His little.
Speaker A:What they call that?
Speaker A:Nuggets all throughout it.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker A:That boy is a genius.
Speaker A:Shout out Chris Evans.
Speaker B:I'm proud.
Speaker B:That's what's up?
Speaker B:We need more of this.
Speaker B:He will be making movies.
Speaker A:He will be here.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm definitely gonna connect that.
Speaker B:Yeah, connect him.
Speaker B:I would love to interview him as a black producer.
Speaker B:Percy next.
Speaker B:Me too.
Speaker B:I was just gonna say, like, that's a great connection.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Because I'm coming up with a show.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna tell the cat out the back, but I got my own show.
Speaker B:It's a celebrity show that I'm working on.
Speaker B:And so we need a more added to our team.
Speaker B:Percy definitely need help because it's a lot of me.
Speaker B:A lot of me is a lot of me to deal with.
Speaker B:So Percy needs some help with editing, producing.
Speaker B:So I would love to connect those dots and continue to build be with.
Speaker A:Studios team because this is history in the making.
Speaker B:No, I'm serious.
Speaker B:I'm serious.
Speaker A:Watch what's gonna happen with.
Speaker A:With Dr. Stance and Evans.
Speaker A:Chris Evans.
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker B:I'm with it.
Speaker B:I. I'm stoked.
Speaker B:I want to help.
Speaker B:I want to support.
Speaker B:If I can be the network to be, you know, just to promote it.
Speaker B:Whatever I could do to help, I'm here.
Speaker B:And I would love his help.
Speaker B:I'm not afraid to ask for help to build excellence.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:If I know anybody that know me, if I got a vision, I'm gonna make it happen.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:And I ain't gonna stop till I do.
Speaker B:My line, Percy, the proof is in the pudding.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:This is the proof right here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm going to make it happen.
Speaker B:If I say I'm going to do something, put my mind to it.
Speaker B:You're going to see my reality show and it's going to be.
Speaker B:I'm going to be bigger than Zeus.
Speaker B:If better shout out to Lemmy and Natalie and all them and Jocelyn.
Speaker B:But I'm going to be the next Zeus female own biggest network.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:Shout out to Oprah because I would like to be like on two.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:But no, what else is coming?
Speaker B:What else you got going on?
Speaker B:You got that movie.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:We going to backtrack just a little bit.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Why did you.
Speaker A:Why are you choosing celibacy?
Speaker B:Oh, Lord.
Speaker B:Well, I see where your mind is.
Speaker B:This is hilarious to me.
Speaker B:I don't know if this is.
Speaker A:Y' all see how she put my mind in the gutter?
Speaker B:No, it's not.
Speaker B:I didn't say that.
Speaker B:You said it.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Continue.
Speaker A:Yeah, I forgot.
Speaker A:I'm speaking with a female Mac right now, so I cannot outward her.
Speaker A:Y' All I'm trying to outward her.
Speaker A:It ain't going to happen.
Speaker B:My thing is.
Speaker B:No, I am.
Speaker B:I know my worth.
Speaker B:And it took me a long time, I think, to figure that out.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:And not saying I'm better than anybody or not.
Speaker B:I'm not effable, if that makes sense.
Speaker B:But I just feel like I know my worth and I'm kind of like you.
Speaker B:Once I get in business mode, that be kind of like the last thing on my mind.
Speaker A:And I never thought I would feel like that.
Speaker B:It don't work unless.
Speaker B:It don't even work for me unless I'm in love.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:To be honest with you, like, I don't even work.
Speaker B:I'm not even gonna work unless I'm in love.
Speaker B:And what I think I love right now is my bag and my legacy.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And be with.
Speaker B:I'm everywhere.
Speaker B:And so I think that is what sex is to me right now.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Not saying I won't have that intimacy or something like that with somebody, but right now, that's just the Lisa my thing.
Speaker B:It ain't gonna get this legacy going.
Speaker B:I am 43.
Speaker B:I want to be like literally a multi millionaire and just living the most comfortable lifetime.
Speaker B:I hit 47.
Speaker A:I feel that, you know, I mean,.
Speaker B:That's a good number for me.
Speaker B:And I just want to.
Speaker B:But not even just that.
Speaker B:I want to put so many people.
Speaker B:I want to be like J. Styler.
Speaker B:Like how he put people.
Speaker A:I want to help me people in the position.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I want.
Speaker B:And I've done that just in a different industry.
Speaker A:Like Stall is in the Stalin is in the movies now.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Producing direct.
Speaker B:Supposed to be doing my documentary on From a Hoe to a CEO.
Speaker B:So I'm waiting on that.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker B:I would love a documentary on my book.
Speaker B:You really got to read my book.
Speaker B:Like when you get the time.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I got audio too.
Speaker B:But it's really a good book and I think it'll be a great documentary.
Speaker B:I seriously think that when I tell you it's real life.
Speaker B:Whole stories, you know, it's real life just coming up as a child trauma.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:And being able to make it out of that and crazy thing is help kids that are prostitutes.
Speaker B:And that's been through the same trauma I've been through foster care.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:So for me, back to being celibate, it's just the last thing on my mind.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Like I'm really, when I say focused, like I wouldn't have been able to build this if I would have been so worried about getting screwed.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You get what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because guess what?
Speaker B:We were just talking about that when you screwing somebody, it's that soul tie.
Speaker B:And I don't have time for that soul tie right now because it will deter me from my direction that I'm trying to help myself and others create this legacy.
Speaker B:Straight up.
Speaker A:Nowadays, I'm so unattracted to women who don't understand hustle, who don't understand that all that lovey dovey, fake.
Speaker A:I ain't gonna call it fake, but it's fake to me.
Speaker A:All that old movie love and R B song love.
Speaker A:If that's your focus and you don't see that you're dealing with a man that's hustle motivated.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Money motivated and business first.
Speaker A:I'm not even gonna be attracted to you anyway.
Speaker A:More than.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Something past sex.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Well, I will say this.
Speaker B:I don't want to grow old alone though.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:You get what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I don't think nobody do.
Speaker B:But I also.
Speaker B:I don't want to settle.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna settle.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I don't wanna settle.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:Cause it's the real statement when they say you can be happier by yourself than to be with somebody.
Speaker B:That'll bring you down.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And I just don't wanna deal with that.
Speaker B:I wanna be able to make the right decision on who I decide to give myself to.
Speaker B:And I ain't just talking about vajayjay.
Speaker B:I'm talking about my soul.
Speaker B:You know, because I'm a Leo.
Speaker B:We love hard.
Speaker B:And when we love, we love.
Speaker B:And we'll give you the world.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like how you.
Speaker B:I'll be bringing you flowers.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, that's the type of lady I am.
Speaker B:I'll buy you gifts.
Speaker B:Hell, it's obvious I give off a satchi roll.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm just saying.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Man, you know my Versace wrong.
Speaker B:Well, we gonna get to that.
Speaker B:Just a minute.
Speaker B:Because we.
Speaker B:You probably.
Speaker B:This is a good conversation because time has went by.
Speaker B:We actually been talking an hour.
Speaker B:I think my longest one was an hour and 13 minutes.
Speaker B:So that's shout out to TT Dwin, but okay.
Speaker B:I guess we could kind of wrap it up.
Speaker B:But that was just the moral to my story, I think.
Speaker B:Anybody.
Speaker B:Anybody that's single.
Speaker B:Don't rush it.
Speaker B:That's Just I think the advice that I could take because I've rushed relationships, and it didn't do nothing but cause me turmoil and headaches and losing money and.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And just bad decision making bad decisions, you know?
Speaker B:And I don't want to be like, mistakes.
Speaker A:Not even just mistakes.
Speaker A:Bad decisions.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Made a ton of them.
Speaker B:I don't want to rush and.
Speaker A:And yeah, like I said, you don't.
Speaker B:Have to be friends with somebody first.
Speaker B:Like, there's nothing wrong with building a friendship.
Speaker B:And to me, this is to all the ladies.
Speaker B:If a man wants you, he gonna put in the work.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I don't care how hard it is, he gonna put in that work if he really wants.
Speaker B:Really wants you.
Speaker A:If we really want you, you're gonna put the work.
Speaker A:We're gonna go way up out of.
Speaker A:It's in a man's nature.
Speaker B:It's in your nature.
Speaker A:It's in a man's nature to want to wow the right woman.
Speaker B:And there you go.
Speaker A:Impress the right woman, not make the right woman happy.
Speaker A:I try.
Speaker A:I try to pick my words differently now, but, yeah, make a woman.
Speaker A:For lack of better terms, make a woman happy.
Speaker B:Abs.
Speaker A:You want to.
Speaker B:You want to like.
Speaker B:We ain't got to like.
Speaker B:And that's another thing.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:I would talk about that all day.
Speaker B:How women are forcing men to like, I need to get married.
Speaker B:And you shouldn't have to force a man to want to marry you.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:He gonna get on that knee automatically without you having to do anything.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's just what's going to happen.
Speaker B:A man.
Speaker B:You guys are to pray.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:If it's right.
Speaker B:If it's right, it's right.
Speaker B:So I just.
Speaker B:I be.
Speaker B:It's women these days getting on their knee.
Speaker B:I wish.
Speaker B:Listen, if.
Speaker B:Listen, my knees ain't even gonna work.
Speaker B:They don't even go that low to be getting on my knee to propose no longer.
Speaker B:Any of that.
Speaker B:No way.
Speaker B:I'm proposing to no man.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And we not supposed to.
Speaker A:If a woman.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To me, I would already.
Speaker B:What would you do?
Speaker B:Would you say yes?
Speaker A:I think if a woman proposed to me, it would be because she wasn't good enough for me to propose to her.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:That's why it happened.
Speaker B:Ooh.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:Cause if she was good enough, I would have proposed to her.
Speaker A:I've been married before.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Me too.
Speaker A:I was married for nine years to my kid's mom.
Speaker A:We the best of friends now.
Speaker A:We make Way better friends than us together.
Speaker A:Than us being us together.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But yeah, I. I was married.
Speaker A:And so when I hear females, you know, trying to pressure me into committed relationships and.
Speaker A:And marriage, and I'm like, you gotta understand, I've already done the.
Speaker A:That you begging me to do.
Speaker A:I've done it before.
Speaker A:I've done.
Speaker A:I've been around the world.
Speaker A:Around the world, Craig.
Speaker A:Around the nation, state to state, city to city, country to country.
Speaker A:I been there.
Speaker A:I've known so many people.
Speaker A:So I say all that to say a lot of the shit that women are pressuring, attempt to pressure me to do.
Speaker A:I already did it.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So me being business focused is easy to me.
Speaker A:And when a woman don't understand that she didn't already turn me off.
Speaker B:You know, I think that's funny you say that.
Speaker B:I think even me and Percy was talking about that.
Speaker B:Because Percy live on a computer, okay?
Speaker B:And that's his life.
Speaker B:Because he's a producer, he's an editor.
Speaker B:And I was telling him because he's single too.
Speaker B:And I was just like, p, you gonna need a woman that's dang there in the same industry because.
Speaker A:To understand.
Speaker B:To understand why he's at the computer.
Speaker B:One, to make us a better living and two, so we can get the work done so she's not in that.
Speaker A:Not no insecure ass woman that think you staring at other women and porn on a computer, flirting non stop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:On the social media.
Speaker B:I'm working.
Speaker A:I'm creating a motherfucking legacy.
Speaker B:Legacy.
Speaker A:You know, Period.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:Well, listen, we gonna end this on a good note.
Speaker B:You already know the deal.
Speaker B:You know what Dr. Stanz do gone and look under your seat.
Speaker B:I hate this food.
Speaker B:This one probably be going viral.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker A:Shout out.
Speaker A:B Wit, what's happening?
Speaker A:Oh, my stomach hurt.
Speaker A:My baby.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My baby.
Speaker A:How you know?
Speaker A:I got a Versace robe, that's how I know.
Speaker B:I hate you, bro.
Speaker B:He played.
Speaker A:This could be a good movie with him acting.
Speaker B:Oh, like you are definitely character.
Speaker B:I gotta see that movie.
Speaker A:Oh, this motherfucker's sexy.
Speaker B:I hope you can fit it too.
Speaker B:If it's too big or too small, let me know.
Speaker A:I gotta.
Speaker A:It's too perfect.
Speaker A:That's what the fuck it is.
Speaker B:You know, I'm going home with my roses, man.
Speaker A:I can see me now, showing up at your door, yanking my robe, cleaning the first.
Speaker A:He just.
Speaker B:He gets a kick out of the show.
Speaker B:Edit.
Speaker A:Edit that part out.
Speaker A:Edit that part out.
Speaker A:No, don't don't.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:This one go viral.
Speaker B:I love it, though.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker B:We will be creating a movie together, actually, because you're good.
Speaker B:You're good.
Speaker A:I've been trying to get you in the movie since I met you.
Speaker A:Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker A:What kind of movie you talking about?
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Where Evans is going to be.
Speaker B:Is going to be the producer.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Thank you so much.
Speaker A:For real, I got a real.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And this ain't cheap.
Speaker B:No, no, it ain't cheap.
Speaker A:I. I would like, let it all fall open, but I'm not.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:So pretty.
Speaker B:And I got you a book.
Speaker B:I wanted to give you my book.
Speaker B:It's over there.
Speaker B:And I got you a shirt.
Speaker B:You got the double whammy.
Speaker B:Just cuz you know what I feel like when we talk on the phone and you was talking about alcoholism.
Speaker B:Alcoholism.
Speaker B:You know, to me, I have family members that struggle with that and they're very in denial about it.
Speaker B:And I think that you.
Speaker A:You know, it's a huge characteristic is.
Speaker B:That's bigger than life.
Speaker B:So I gave you that, you know, And I just think that you deserve it, bro.
Speaker B:You really.
Speaker B:You really come far in life.
Speaker B:You look good, you smell good, and you're very respectable, man.
Speaker B:You're the first man that brought me some roses.
Speaker B:Shout out to King Millie.
Speaker B:He brought me something, too, but I just.
Speaker B:And Erica.
Speaker B:But I just think this speaks volume right here.
Speaker B:And not.
Speaker A:And it came from before we go.
Speaker B:And it came from her.
Speaker B:And it matches shoes.
Speaker B:Look it.
Speaker B:He do too much.
Speaker B:He play too much.
Speaker A:I didn't think she was gonna notice.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:On some real.
Speaker A:I didn't even notice shoes.
Speaker B:I need some of them.
Speaker B:I got almost every cuz.
Speaker B:Shout out to P Money.
Speaker B:You see him over there?
Speaker A:Like, why you tired of me wearing my van?
Speaker B:Yeah, I bought them them shoes.
Speaker B:Like, let's go, players.
Speaker A:That's love.
Speaker B:Cut that out.
Speaker A:Y' all got a genuine friendship.
Speaker B:No, that's not.
Speaker A:These ain't cheap.
Speaker B:They're not at all.
Speaker B:So you hear him, Percy?
Speaker B:So you should deal with my madness.
Speaker A:Ah.
Speaker A:Cause I love you.
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker A:I think Dylan would have won.
Speaker A:Every single day and night we're on the phone like Mastermind.
Speaker A:Did you do this?
Speaker A:Did you do that?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I'm sorry to wake you up.
Speaker A:I know, but I need to.
Speaker A:Right when I'm about to sit down and watch a movie.
Speaker B:Could you do.
Speaker B:You do this person first.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker B:We'll move you up to the chart because I think this is going to be a good one.
Speaker B:Out of all these guests that came today, I think you, you number one.
Speaker B:Yeah, I really appreciate that.
Speaker B:Like, I know that's right.
Speaker B:Entertainment is funny in the most importantly, alcoholism.
Speaker B:A lot of guys that come from the industry that are in the streets or whatever, they need to hear this.
Speaker B:So I really appreciate coming.
Speaker B:I love you to death.
Speaker A:I think you're dead.
Speaker B:And movie man, I'm going to see.
Speaker A:You on that real.
Speaker A:Let's go on that screen.
Speaker B:We is out with deep Mac T boy, we out.
