Episode 47

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Published on:

5th Oct 2026

From D‑Boy to Darian: How I Ditched the Pimp Life and Got Sober

D-Mack's sobriety and turnaround from “D Boy” to Darian Evans — quitting alcohol, leaving the pimp life, and rebuilding a real life — is the main thing we dig into right away. We sit down and get honest about addiction (yes, alcoholism is a medically recognized disease), how triggers work, and practical tools like AA’s 12-step concepts and the idea of changing “people, places, and things” to protect recovery — basic stuff explained so it actually makes sense. I joke, I tease, and we trade stories about roses, Versace robes, and all the sauce, but we also get into the serious: how he spent years trying, went to rehab multiple times, and finally used faith, persistence, and identity work to let go of an alter-ego that was destroying him. We talk relationship stuff too — soul ties, celibacy as a strategy to focus on legacy, and why pacing love (not rushing it) matters when you’re rebuilding. Oh, and because life loves a plot twist, D-Mack’s now acting in a movie called My Brother’s Keeper and is channeling his hustle into creative, corporate moves — from the block to the big screen. Trust me, it’s equal parts raw, practical, and hilarious — like therapy with better music and more flowers.

Transcript
Speaker A:

Sam,.

Speaker B:

Hey, that's the old hoe.

Speaker B:

Okay?

Speaker B:

I'm a new hoe.

Speaker B:

I'm just playing.

Speaker A:

I'm just a whole new hoe.

Speaker B:

I'm a whole new hoe, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

I know that's right.

Speaker B:

This is so special.

Speaker B:

Nobody's brought me roses, though.

Speaker B:

You won with this one.

Speaker B:

Nobody did.

Speaker B:

You won with this one.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

This is so precious.

Speaker B:

No, I'm.

Speaker B:

I take.

Speaker B:

I'm serious.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

This is.

Speaker B:

I show gratitude like this.

Speaker A:

Two gifts in one day.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

You know what?

Speaker A:

Honestly, that's the least we could do.

Speaker A:

For real?

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker A:

That's the least.

Speaker A:

That's the least I could do.

Speaker B:

No, I feel that.

Speaker B:

Like, you know, I just.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

This is a hard game, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

You want an incredible run, though?

Speaker A:

I am incredible run.

Speaker B:

I am moving.

Speaker B:

Thank you, babe.

Speaker A:

The four.

Speaker B:

Oh, he.

Speaker A:

Look.

Speaker B:

Percy ready to go.

Speaker B:

He did.

Speaker A:

I thought we.

Speaker A:

I thought we was already recording.

Speaker A:

Now, make.

Speaker B:

Keep that in there.

Speaker A:

I mean, it's been recording.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Perfect, but still.

Speaker B:

Do your countdown.

Speaker B:

Got my roses.

Speaker B:

Keep this in there.

Speaker B:

Tuck that.

Speaker B:

Keep that out.

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

What's up, y'?

Speaker B:

All?

Speaker B:

It's Dr. Stan.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Turning your hustle into a legacy.

Speaker B:

And of course, I got the big D M.

Speaker A:

What's good with it?

Speaker A:

Live wire.

Speaker A:

What's happening?

Speaker B:

It's happening.

Speaker B:

I'm like.

Speaker B:

Like, he extra special, y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker B:

I got the pretty red roses with the sparkles that match his shoes.

Speaker B:

Please check those out.

Speaker A:

He came, she played too much.

Speaker B:

No, he.

Speaker B:

Listen.

Speaker B:

He killing y' all in the game.

Speaker B:

So listen, he's.

Speaker B:

You the first to bring me some roses, honey.

Speaker A:

She putting it on and they real.

Speaker B:

Quit playing.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

What's up, D?

Speaker A:

Wrek, man?

Speaker A:

What's up with you, man?

Speaker B:

I'm so.

Speaker B:

I feel so special.

Speaker B:

I was just like.

Speaker A:

You are special.

Speaker A:

I swear to God, you special.

Speaker A:

Like I said, you want an incredible run.

Speaker A:

I ain't seen a run like this in a long time, if ever.

Speaker B:

Thank you, babe.

Speaker B:

I appreciate that.

Speaker B:

Well, I'm the type, if.

Speaker B:

You know.

Speaker B:

I'm sure you the type, too.

Speaker B:

We put it.

Speaker B:

We put all in Mr. Capricorn, right here.

Speaker B:

We put.

Speaker B:

When we focused, we all.

Speaker B:

Oh, that.

Speaker B:

That shit clean, actually.

Speaker B:

The guapi, I like that.

Speaker B:

Who made that?

Speaker A:

Oh, this guapi.

Speaker A:

Little.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Yeah, you stunning.

Speaker A:

It's that company that fuck with.

Speaker A:

Oh, can I cuss.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

I'm not.

Speaker B:

But you can.

Speaker B:

You can be yourself.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Thank you for asking.

Speaker A:

Now, this the company with Kodak, Black and NBA YoungBoy.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

They got women stuff.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

If they don't, they will.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's actually clean.

Speaker B:

And it's the.

Speaker B:

The material.

Speaker B:

When I hugged you, it's like.

Speaker B:

It's a material.

Speaker A:

Oh, no, it wasn't the material.

Speaker A:

That was me, baby.

Speaker B:

This what I'm saying.

Speaker B:

This one is too much.

Speaker B:

He played.

Speaker B:

You say I play.

Speaker B:

He play way too much.

Speaker B:

So listen, you on the move right now.

Speaker B:

I see your videos.

Speaker B:

I didn't seen them all.

Speaker B:

Okay, I see his video.

Speaker B:

You with J Style and Livewire.

Speaker B:

I see you move like you moving West Oakland, B.

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

And you remind me of.

Speaker B:

I was just gonna say she next.

Speaker A:

I need you Tuesday.

Speaker B:

I need her next.

Speaker B:

She didn't put west up.

Speaker B:

She didn't put y' all on.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker A:

Hey, for real.

Speaker A:

We ain't put y' all on like this since nothing.

Speaker A:

Shit.

Speaker B:

Ever, Ever.

Speaker B:

So Tuesday, I think I just seen actually a clip with a young lady saying, man, why y' all hating on West Oakland?

Speaker B:

Y' all ain't letting us shine.

Speaker B:

East Oakland stay shining.

Speaker B:

Put a filter on that, right?

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

But I also had to say oakland is Oakland, though.

Speaker A:

Oakland is Oakland.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Oakland.

Speaker B:

We collectively won.

Speaker B:

But I will say, I don't feel like we divided like that.

Speaker B:

Me, personally, I never did.

Speaker B:

I never did.

Speaker A:

I'll tell you a secret about West Oakland.

Speaker A:

Most folks from West Oakland and North Oakland, most of us, by the time we get my age, we done lived in East Oakland most of our lives.

Speaker A:

There you go, you know, so, no, I. I never ever really felt the divide.

Speaker B:

Me neither.

Speaker A:

Between the.

Speaker A:

The three sides of Oakland.

Speaker B:

Me neither.

Speaker A:

Like, unless, like, we roasting, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Unless we talking shit.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

They might say Oakland.

Speaker B:

I mean, West Oakland.

Speaker B:

A little ratchet.

Speaker B:

Just a little bit.

Speaker A:

We was the dirty little Westphalian, you know?

Speaker B:

That's what she said.

Speaker A:

Hey, it's all right.

Speaker A:

Though my bounce back is ridiculous.

Speaker A:

Ridiculous.

Speaker B:

They can't mess with him.

Speaker B:

They can't mess with him.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

Hey, listen, you putting it on for your city, period.

Speaker B:

Our city, but West Oakland for sure.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Tuesday.

Speaker B:

Now, tell the people who's D. Mac, right?

Speaker B:

Tell them who Mike, man.

Speaker A:

D. Border.

Speaker A:

Mac.

Speaker A:

You know what you.

Speaker A:

I mean, what you want to know?

Speaker A:

Let's get more specific.

Speaker B:

Tell them what they don't know about you.

Speaker B:

How about that?

Speaker B:

Don't know what they don't know.

Speaker B:

I know a little bit, but I'm gonna let you tell it because I know what we have in common.

Speaker B:

We both was macking.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, you probably.

Speaker B:

You did it better than me, though.

Speaker A:

It's in me.

Speaker A:

Not on you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

It's in me.

Speaker A:

Not on me, you know, M A, C, K. For real.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker A:

But about me, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker A:

Where would I start?

Speaker A:

Where would I start, what they don't know about me?

Speaker A:

Most people don't know that I don't drink.

Speaker A:

Most people don't know that I don't drink no more.

Speaker B:

Why is that?

Speaker B:

We've talked about it, but let them know why.

Speaker A:

Okay, okay.

Speaker A:

Enough.

Speaker A:

Cause enough was enough.

Speaker A:

Enough was enough.

Speaker A:

I'm pretty sure I had more than enough drink for anybody that's watching, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I had my fair share.

Speaker A:

I had my.

Speaker A:

I bumped my head enough, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Lessons and blessings.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, like, a whole lot of people I grew up with, I'm pretty sure they got drinking memories with D Boy, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And a lot of people be like, you know, I remember the good old days, man, back in the day, man, the good old days.

Speaker A:

And since I stopped drinking now, I'm living in the good old days right now, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I'm in the good old days, you feel me?

Speaker A:

You know?

Speaker A:

So I'm proud of you.

Speaker A:

Money can't buy that.

Speaker A:

Money can't buy that.

Speaker B:

I'm proud of you.

Speaker A:

I appreciate it, cuz.

Speaker B:

Drinking is a hard habit to kick.

Speaker B:

It's closest to heron, to be honest with you.

Speaker B:

That's one of the hardest habits.

Speaker B:

And cigarettes.

Speaker A:

It took me 12 years to get my first 12 months of sobriety.

Speaker A:

Not too long ago, I heard Mazzy, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Shout out Mazzy.

Speaker A:

I heard Mazzy saying something about he.

Speaker A:

He what?

Speaker A:

He say he too popular or too cool to go to rehab.

Speaker B:

Ooh.

Speaker A:

And, man, it ain't no secret.

Speaker A:

I went.

Speaker A:

I had to go to rehab.

Speaker B:

I like that.

Speaker A:

A bunch of times, I like that.

Speaker A:

But, you know, just like me and this music shit, I didn't give up, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I've been fucking with the music since I wrote my first rhyme when I was 8 and kept going and been through different rap groups, collectives, record labels, all of that shit.

Speaker A:

The only difference between me and them, I kept going.

Speaker A:

Only difference between me and the folks who tried to stop drinking and doing drugs, I kept trying.

Speaker A:

That's the only difference, you know, Persistence, persistence, you know, I like that.

Speaker B:

I like that.

Speaker A:

Persistency is key.

Speaker B:

It is, it is.

Speaker B:

And a lot of people that struggle with like obtaining sobriety, they most of the time don't.

Speaker B:

They really don't.

Speaker B:

Or they whole life be down the drain where it's too late.

Speaker B:

So I take my hat off to you where you, you literally made it on the other side.

Speaker B:

You are the epitome of making it on the other side because you look good.

Speaker B:

You definite dipped in love.

Speaker B:

All kind of sources of love over there, you know.

Speaker B:

And most people don't bounce back, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Because an addiction is serious.

Speaker A:

I didn't think I was gonna bounce back, you know, Like I said, took me 12 years to get my first 12 months.

Speaker A:

It was times when I was like, shit, maybe.

Speaker A:

Maybe I'm supposed to be drunk for the rest of my life.

Speaker A:

Dang.

Speaker A:

You know, I was like, maybe I'm supposed to be just an example of wasted potential.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker A:

That's what I thought I was.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

I'm like, God, like I would get out the hospital from like alcohol poisoning, swear up and down I'm gonna go to an AA meeting, I get out the hospital and go straight to the liquor store and hit the liquor store before I get home, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I. I remember one time I went to rehab and graduated, graduated rehab in San Francisco.

Speaker A:

And I would say within about seven days I was drunk again, you know.

Speaker B:

So what was your preference?

Speaker B:

It was hard liquor, I'm sure.

Speaker A:

Hard liquor.

Speaker A:

80 Proof liquor, you know, like.

Speaker A:

So when the money is good, you start buying privilege.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

Belvedere Gray goose, you know.

Speaker A:

And then by the time, by the time it's all said and done, you back drinking ENJ and shit.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Hey, you know what?

Speaker A:

I thank the Lord though.

Speaker A:

I thank the Lord.

Speaker A:

I never bought taco.

Speaker A:

I never hit taco.

Speaker A:

Well, no, no, no, no.

Speaker A:

I drank taco.

Speaker A:

I never bought tacos.

Speaker A:

I never bought taco.

Speaker B:

Most alcoholics drink any dang on thing.

Speaker A:

To be honest with you, man, that was one of the few.

Speaker A:

Hey, God bless babies and fools, man.

Speaker A:

And I was a goddamn fool for real.

Speaker A:

So yeah, I never had to buy taco vodka, man.

Speaker A:

But I drunk enough enjoy to keep that family alive forever.

Speaker A:

I can joke straight the fuck up.

Speaker A:

Straight up.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker B:

That's funny you say that.

Speaker B:

I never really.

Speaker B:

Do you smoke?

Speaker A:

Nah, I. I was known for selling hella weed Gotcha.

Speaker A:

I sold acres and acres of weed whack.

Speaker A:

Got it.

Speaker A:

But nah, I smoked tobacco.

Speaker A:

And luckily.

Speaker A:

Luckily with the tobacco, you know, that was easy to quit.

Speaker A:

Easy.

Speaker A:

Easy peasy.

Speaker B:

I'm looking at Pete.

Speaker B:

Cause P quit smoking.

Speaker B:

What we on two months.

Speaker B:

Almost.

Speaker B:

Almost two months cold turkey.

Speaker B:

And I did the same thing.

Speaker B:

I smoked.

Speaker B:

I picked up my first cigarette at 11.

Speaker B:

11 Years old, and I was smoking new poops 100.

Speaker B:

I used to have all the crackheads going there on 5, 7, go buy me all my cigarettes.

Speaker B:

And to me, it was hard quitting.

Speaker B:

I couldn't go anywhere without smoking a cigarette.

Speaker B:

Like, when I get up, I need a cigarette.

Speaker B:

Or when I go to the bathroom, I need a cigarette when I'm getting in a car.

Speaker B:

Like, I just.

Speaker B:

Is you.

Speaker B:

It's probably, what, every five, seven minutes, you need a cigarette.

Speaker B:

You smoke a pack a day.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker B:

Then if it's 24 hours in a day, you got 20 cigarettes, you, you, you on your next pack.

Speaker B:

But you need triggers.

Speaker A:

So I. I have my triggers.

Speaker B:

There you go.

Speaker A:

When I'm editing, like, I get up, like, every five to six minutes.

Speaker B:

No, dead serious.

Speaker B:

That's how I was, too.

Speaker B:

Like, for real.

Speaker B:

When I was this, now this.

Speaker B:

Let's just keep it 100 on.

Speaker B:

Why I wanted you on the show.

Speaker B:

We're talking about triggers.

Speaker B:

I wanted you on the show because I trigger you.

Speaker B:

Huh?

Speaker A:

I trigger you.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Yes, you do, love.

Speaker A:

I know that's right.

Speaker A:

Ooh, Weez.

Speaker B:

I hate him.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

Right, Percy.

Speaker B:

Cause Percy triggered me, too.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker B:

You the special club.

Speaker A:

Yeah, y' all is.

Speaker B:

No, but I wanted Joe.

Speaker B:

But on this show, shout out to Kapone, my cousin, he was like, bro, you gotta have him on the show.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, why?

Speaker B:

I don't know him.

Speaker A:

Boss man, what's happening?

Speaker B:

You gotta have him on the show.

Speaker B:

He's like, you know, he's Big Mac.

Speaker B:

He could relate to you.

Speaker B:

I said, ooh, you right, cuz.

Speaker B:

So you know, I wrote my book, Hold a CEO.

Speaker B:

I got you one.

Speaker B:

But you got to read my book.

Speaker B:

Percy read it.

Speaker B:

He said it was really, really good.

Speaker B:

Really, really intriguing.

Speaker B:

And it's just to know me, but a lot of it.

Speaker B:

Why I wanted you on the show.

Speaker B:

Cause I had strippers, I had prostitutes, you know, And I had a lot.

Speaker B:

But I ain't had a Mac yet.

Speaker B:

So I really wanted you on the show because you're on the different side of it, and I wanted to.

Speaker B:

Of course, we not in the game no more.

Speaker B:

This is all old stuff.

Speaker B:

But I'm just saying.

Speaker B:

Or is we.

Speaker B:

I'm joking.

Speaker B:

That was a joke.

Speaker B:

No, we're not in the game.

Speaker B:

The man has changed his life.

Speaker B:

He works.

Speaker B:

He's a great man.

Speaker B:

And he just be dipped for no reason.

Speaker B:

Okay?

Speaker B:

But for no apparent reason to wake up, he dipped in so much sauce, it's ridiculous.

Speaker B:

Okay, he dripping now.

Speaker B:

But I wanted to know because to me, when I got in, when I got into the game, you know, of prostitution, it was a hard.

Speaker B:

That's a hard knock life.

Speaker B:

It just really is.

Speaker B:

Let's just keep it 100.

Speaker B:

You always in a manipulating moment.

Speaker B:

You're always hustling.

Speaker B:

And I was just curious with you.

Speaker B:

The reason why I got into it because I got hot on the neck.

Speaker B:

Because I was robbing everybody.

Speaker B:

All the tricks, right?

Speaker B:

All the Johns.

Speaker B:

So it made me turn to the life of getting girls to do stuff for me.

Speaker B:

And that's when I realized, like, oh, I might be built different because they doing tricks me.

Speaker B:

And I ain't got to do nothing.

Speaker B:

I ain't gay.

Speaker B:

I ain't doing nothing.

Speaker B:

They just giving me money.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker A:

What was that The M&YO MAX stand for Manipulation, huh?

Speaker B:

Correct.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's right.

Speaker B:

I was a. I was a. I would say mastermind.

Speaker A:

Mastermind.

Speaker B:

That's why my PhD is in psychology, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

But I was a mastermind at knowing how to read people.

Speaker B:

And I. I act how you act.

Speaker B:

Like, I adapt, you know?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So I know how to, like, adapt.

Speaker B:

So for you, what was your first experience with your first prostitute?

Speaker B:

If that.

Speaker B:

If we'll say like that.

Speaker B:

Or macking experience, like educate people.

Speaker B:

I see that.

Speaker B:

See, I see.

Speaker B:

I read language now.

Speaker B:

I'm reading that right leg.

Speaker B:

I know that's a good one right now.

Speaker A:

So long story short, as long.

Speaker A:

As short as I can make it.

Speaker A:

I remember.

Speaker A:

So we had moved from.

Speaker A:

From West Oakland to East Oakland, and from East Oakland, we moved to Hayward.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

And you know, a whole lot of the folks from Oak, damn near all the black folks at that time that was in Hayward was from Oakland.

Speaker B:

Correct.

Speaker A:

And at that time, age 15, 14, 14, 15, 16.

Speaker A:

For them, the big.

Speaker A:

The big thing was, was robbing folks, robbing stores and restaurants and.

Speaker A:

And selling.

Speaker A:

And trying to sell crack.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So crack powder, my thing.

Speaker A:

I just kept seeing them get caught, get caught, get caught, get caught.

Speaker A:

My whole click.

Speaker A:

I remember one day I'm gonna get back to the story, but one day, one day my whole clique went to jail the same day for hella different.

Speaker A:

For hella different crimes.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

The same day my cousin Biggie.

Speaker A:

Shout out Biggie.

Speaker A:

My cousin Biggie went to jail for robbing the subway.

Speaker A:

His partner went to jail for this.

Speaker A:

This partner went to jail for that.

Speaker A:

But anyway, long story short, what seemed the, the.

Speaker A:

The for me to pick a poison, it was females, right?

Speaker A:

And the way I.

Speaker A:

The way I, you know, went from just having sex with all, you know, as many girls as possible.

Speaker A:

Back in high school, I went to brag to my uncle, shout out my uncle Dre.

Speaker B:

I know this story.

Speaker A:

Okay, okay, no, but I need the people to know.

Speaker A:

There you go.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, I go to brag to my uncle Dre that I fucked this fine ass little broad.

Speaker A:

I was about 14, right?

Speaker A:

I think I was.

Speaker A:

Nah, was I 15?

Speaker A:

You told me 14, okay?

Speaker A:

Somewhere right around there.

Speaker A:

And I said, unc, man, ooh, fuck this badass bitch.

Speaker A:

Da da, da da da.

Speaker A:

That nigga said so.

Speaker A:

First thing that went through my mind was, you hater, nigga.

Speaker A:

The.

Speaker A:

How you mean so, nigga, you right.

Speaker A:

But I hella look up to my uncle, right?

Speaker A:

So I'm like, he like, say, you ain't got no problem getting a.

Speaker A:

To open her legs, nigga.

Speaker A:

He said, how much money did you get up out of her?

Speaker A:

And me being the quick motherfucker that I am, I had nothing to say.

Speaker A:

I ain't getting.

Speaker A:

Want to get some nigga.

Speaker A:

I up this at the school.

Speaker A:

How much money did you get?

Speaker A:

About that, right?

Speaker A:

I felt less than.

Speaker A:

I felt less than in a.

Speaker A:

Right, you know, I thought I was man.

Speaker A:

So anyway, long story short, I wanted to show my uncle, okay, fine, I know how to do something more than just fuck these bros, you know?

Speaker A:

And I just.

Speaker A:

I don't know, I just became so fascinated with pimping everything.

Speaker A:

It was more fascinating than the idea of selling drugs.

Speaker A:

It was more fascinating than crippin blood.

Speaker A:

It was more fascinating than anything that was going on.

Speaker A:

Manipulating a female to go have sex and bring me the money.

Speaker A:

And at that time, at that young ass age, I thought that was like the epitome of a man, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I thought that was man.

Speaker A:

It was.

Speaker A:

You know what I could keep saying.

Speaker A:

I thought in that time frame it was manly.

Speaker A:

Manly as masculine.

Speaker A:

It was something to be proud of.

Speaker A:

And I kept trying and trying and trying.

Speaker A:

And I touched my first hoe dollar I received, you know, from a hoe.

Speaker A:

I was about 17.

Speaker A:

About 17.

Speaker A:

She placed it in my palm, you know, and I couldn't wait to tell him.

Speaker A:

Run back and tell now.

Speaker A:

Nigga told you she cashed me out.

Speaker A:

He said, how.

Speaker A:

How much you get?

Speaker A:

I got a hundred dollars.

Speaker A:

He said, that's it.

Speaker A:

I said, this.

Speaker A:

You know, this back when you can hang the phone up.

Speaker A:

So, you know, just like you said earlier, anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

Speaker A:

And so I just was set up on this mission to keep going.

Speaker A:

And eventually it came to an end.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I don't know if you want to go into the story of how it came.

Speaker B:

I'm curious because mine did, because, one, I went to jail, and then I got pregnant.

Speaker B:

So, of course, me, you know, being.

Speaker A:

In the industry, I was amazing.

Speaker A:

You go to jail and get pregnant?

Speaker A:

She got pregnant in jail.

Speaker B:

No, I did not, stupid.

Speaker B:

I got make sure that was on air.

Speaker B:

I went to jail, and it changed my life.

Speaker B:

And I said, ooh, jail ain't for me.

Speaker B:

Cause I could relate a lot of people that I was dealing with, the guys and all my boys from the hood, they was going to jail for selling dope and all, and they getting time.

Speaker B:

I'm like, I ain't finna be doing nothing like that where I'm finna be going to jail, getting time like that.

Speaker B:

Every time I went to jail with prostitution, you get out the next day, okay.

Speaker B:

And bail is a couple dollars, you know?

Speaker B:

So I was like, oh, this is the industry right here.

Speaker B:

Cause I can make a gang of money, go to jail, get out the next day.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, I'm in.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So I could kind of relate when you say with your homeboys.

Speaker B:

But what got me out personally was out the game itself was when I got pregnant and met my baby's father.

Speaker B:

But what got you out the game?

Speaker A:

So eventually, long story short, so like, I spoke about the alcoholism, right?

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And just how.

Speaker A:

How much alcohol had.

Speaker A:

Had took over my life and influence.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

And so for one, you know, I'm gonna be.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna be honest as fuck.

Speaker A:

Drinking made pimping and any other criminal activity, I was doing that much easier.

Speaker A:

I was just gonna say a whole lot of.

Speaker A:

Is gonna lie and say, you know, I ain't had to do no drugs to drink.

Speaker A:

I ain't had to do nothing to the pimp.

Speaker A:

It ain't.

Speaker A:

Most is lying.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

You know, most is lying.

Speaker A:

And so one, the drinking, it helped me to keep that.

Speaker A:

Just that.

Speaker A:

That cold.

Speaker A:

It.

Speaker A:

It helped me to keep my heart as cold as possible.

Speaker A:

You know, it helped me to keep my Heart as cold as possible.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

But long story short, if I can try to make this long story short, when I kept trying to, you know, stay sober, it wasn't working.

Speaker A:

It wasn't working.

Speaker A:

It wasn't working.

Speaker A:

And somebody told me, so I get ready to get up out of rehab one time, and he was like, ain't you excited?

Speaker A:

One of the staff members was like, ain't you excited?

Speaker A:

I said, nah, but what.

Speaker A:

Not really.

Speaker A:

I said, nigga, I'd have been to rehab hella times.

Speaker A:

I always go home, and I might last for about a month, and then I'm gonna drink again.

Speaker A:

I said.

Speaker A:

He was like, man, you gotta read this book.

Speaker A:

So he's showing me the AA book.

Speaker A:

I said, bruh, I know that book by heart.

Speaker A:

I said, y' all got me teaching the class.

Speaker A:

The Alcoholics Anonymous book, right?

Speaker A:

I said, man, that book.

Speaker A:

He said, you know, about heart, right?

Speaker A:

I said, yeah.

Speaker A:

He said, okay, well, when you gonna take it out your mind and put it in your soul?

Speaker A:

I was like, you mean.

Speaker A:

I was like, God damn, that's some cold game.

Speaker A:

I'm like, yeah.

Speaker A:

It's one thing to know the information.

Speaker A:

It's another thing to utilize the information, use.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

And so I think that's the difference between intelligence and wisdom.

Speaker A:

Anybody could have the intelligence, you know, so you can look on your phone and get the knowledge.

Speaker A:

When you utilize that knowledge and start living that knowledge, that's wisdom.

Speaker A:

And from that day forward, I never drank again.

Speaker A:

And so what I realized was I had to.

Speaker A:

I had to change people, places and things.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And if I wanted to do something, have something different, I needed to do something different.

Speaker A:

Amen.

Speaker A:

And then.

Speaker A:

So that's when I.

Speaker A:

That was so.

Speaker A:

One of the things I let go was.

Speaker A:

Was pimping was.

Speaker A:

Was trying to be the.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

The coldest thug, the best drug dealer, the best pimp.

Speaker A:

I had to let all that shit go.

Speaker A:

Cause it was ego.

Speaker B:

That's all it is.

Speaker A:

And that's all it is.

Speaker A:

And what I.

Speaker A:

What I really learned was I'm not D Boy to Mac.

Speaker A:

D Boy to Mac is the character that Darian created.

Speaker A:

So living as D Boy to Mac was killing me.

Speaker A:

Oh, living as.

Speaker A:

Living as D. Border Mac kept me going to jail.

Speaker A:

Living as D Boy to Matt, kept me going to rehab.

Speaker A:

Living as Deep Water Mac Kevin, the high speed chases, shootouts, fights, and all this whole other shit.

Speaker A:

Living up to being D Boy, the Mac.

Speaker A:

And so once I left that rehab, I started nourishing Darian Evans and the more I poured into Darian Evans is when I realized that D Boy the Mac, is the character.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

It's nothing fake about D Boy the Mac.

Speaker A:

And that was really the lifestyle that I was living.

Speaker A:

But I'm not De Border Mack.

Speaker A:

I'm Darian Evans.

Speaker A:

The father, the son, the neighbor, the friend.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And so once I became Darian Evans again and started nourishing Darian Evans, that's when I got closer to God.

Speaker A:

God.

Speaker A:

God keep me sober.

Speaker A:

I ain't doing it.

Speaker A:

Y. I told you.

Speaker A:

I told you.

Speaker A:

It took me 12 years to get my first 12 months.

Speaker A:

12 Months.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Cause that was me trying to get sober.

Speaker A:

That was me trying to stop.

Speaker A:

Keep alcohol out my mouth when I let God do it.

Speaker A:

I ain't drank since.

Speaker B:

Now, I know you have children.

Speaker B:

Would you want your daughter to date Darian Evans?

Speaker B:

Now?

Speaker A:

Shit, I wouldn't even date Darian Evans.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker A:

I want my daughter to date somebody like me.

Speaker B:

But you gotta even think about it is tickling and behooving.

Speaker A:

Cause I want somebody flawless for my daughter.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And I'm not flawless.

Speaker A:

I'm not flawless.

Speaker A:

But you know what?

Speaker A:

But I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm definitely a work in progress.

Speaker A:

And I've made amazing progress.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

I agree.

Speaker A:

I've made amazing progress.

Speaker A:

And so, yes, if my daughter was to meet a man who was as determined to improve his life.

Speaker B:

No, I said a Darian Evans, would you want your daughter to date you as of right now?

Speaker B:

And if not, why not?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And what makes you a good man for your daughter?

Speaker A:

Constantly.

Speaker A:

Constantly trying to get better.

Speaker A:

I've learned what's important.

Speaker A:

You know, Even though y' all see the gold diamonds and the leather and shit, that's.

Speaker A:

That.

Speaker A:

That's for this entertainment shit.

Speaker A:

You know, when the cameras go off.

Speaker A:

I'm nourishing being a man.

Speaker A:

You know, I'm nourishing being a father.

Speaker A:

I'm nourishing anger management, emotional regulation.

Speaker A:

You know, I don't changing my mindset about violence.

Speaker A:

You know, we come from a.

Speaker A:

We come from a place in era where violence is.

Speaker A:

Is what makes you manly.

Speaker A:

Shooting somebody is a right.

Speaker A:

Is a.

Speaker A:

A rite of passage.

Speaker A:

I'm lucky.

Speaker A:

I'm lucky that I made it this far to realize that, you know, that was a good.

Speaker A:

I was looking up to the wrong people.

Speaker B:

But that really, to me ain't your fault.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Let's just be clear.

Speaker A:

Like, I mean, you look at It.

Speaker A:

I don't feel like it's my fault, but it's my responsibility to fix it.

Speaker B:

Awareness.

Speaker B:

Yeah, well, I feel like that now.

Speaker B:

How old are you?

Speaker B:

I think we talked about that.

Speaker A:

You want me to tell it on camera?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

I'm 43.

Speaker A:

I'm 44.

Speaker A:

I'm old enough to be your daddy.

Speaker B:

You better stop your playing, bro.

Speaker B:

I can't curse on the camera.

Speaker B:

You better stop playing.

Speaker A:

Stop playing.

Speaker B:

Be so silly.

Speaker A:

Stop playing.

Speaker B:

She gonna call daddy off once I get my girl.

Speaker B:

My diamonds.

Speaker B:

I need some diamonds.

Speaker B:

Okay, look, now they playing.

Speaker B:

You see that?

Speaker B:

They playing when you need something.

Speaker B:

No, but anyway.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Do it look like I can afford to buy somebody some diamonds?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

That's why I'm like, yeah, daddy.

Speaker A:

I just look like this.

Speaker A:

Let my haters tell it.

Speaker A:

This ain't real.

Speaker B:

Listen, who cares, okay?

Speaker B:

It don't matter.

Speaker B:

Whatever makes you comfortable is what makes you comfortable.

Speaker B:

Because what I'm learning at 43 years old, and this is the most successful people, they don't give a dang what nobody think.

Speaker B:

I care less what anybody thinks about me because you know what?

Speaker B:

I'm still gonna continue my mission.

Speaker B:

I'm still gonna be me, and I'm still gonna do me.

Speaker B:

And it's crazy.

Speaker B:

We were just talking about this because one thing I've learned is not to take favors from people.

Speaker B:

And it's so sad because I'm such a given person and I like to help everybody.

Speaker B:

And, you know, like, you know, I give out the Versace and all this.

Speaker B:

That's genuine from my heart.

Speaker B:

Ain't nobody doing that.

Speaker B:

I ain't got to do that.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

But at the end of the day, when people do stuff for you, they feel entitled.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And I struggle with people that feel entitled.

Speaker B:

I just cut them all the way off.

Speaker B:

And I don't even want to do business with that.

Speaker B:

Do you go through that, like, being in the industry?

Speaker B:

Because I know you work with Jason, but shout out to Jay Stallon, my guy.

Speaker B:

I love Jay Stalin.

Speaker B:

Shout out to him.

Speaker B:

Very proud of him, his success, his endeavors.

Speaker B:

He put a lot of people on.

Speaker B:

He helping a lot of people in the industry.

Speaker B:

So shout out to him.

Speaker B:

Unlike a lot of these other Bay Area rappers, we ain't even going to get into it.

Speaker B:

But Jason, I love live Wire Foots was supposed to come.

Speaker A:

Foot supposed to.

Speaker B:

He was late.

Speaker B:

I canceled him.

Speaker B:

Yes, indeed.

Speaker A:

He said he was going to be 15 minutes later.

Speaker B:

Cancel, I said.

Speaker B:

Stan saying playing.

Speaker A:

I said, bro, she is not on no period.

Speaker A:

She don't play that.

Speaker B:

This is corporate over here.

Speaker A:

Corporate.

Speaker B:

This is corporate.

Speaker B:

So come correct.

Speaker A:

You could come with bruh today.

Speaker B:

Cancel, right?

Speaker B:

Percy, he was so proud of me.

Speaker B:

And I said, wait, where's D?

Speaker B:

Cause if he ain't here, he canceled too.

Speaker B:

He said, oh, no, he's sitting right there.

Speaker B:

I said, my God.

Speaker B:

Cause I seen the text.

Speaker B:

He said, Dr. St.

Speaker A:

I'm here.

Speaker B:

No, this is the thing.

Speaker B:

People gotta respect your time.

Speaker B:

Because when you're late, that's disrespectful.

Speaker A:

I'm learning to accept that it's disrespectful.

Speaker B:

My time is valuable.

Speaker A:

I'm one of the most latest that I ever met you.

Speaker B:

Wasn't a date.

Speaker B:

I take you serious and I appreciate that.

Speaker A:

I take you serious.

Speaker B:

You do not even.

Speaker B:

You take.

Speaker B:

You take me serious, but you respect me and that's what I love.

Speaker B:

And I appreciate you for that because.

Speaker B:

And not saying foot.

Speaker B:

Shout out to foots.

Speaker B:

He don't respect.

Speaker B:

He just didn't respect the time, though.

Speaker B:

So there's repercussions to that.

Speaker B:

That's repercussions.

Speaker B:

It's cancellation.

Speaker A:

Shout out foreign boys.

Speaker A:

Lv lv the Don Foots drop down.

Speaker B:

I actually met footage.

Speaker B:

He was here with Compton A.V.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Compton A.V.

Speaker B:

That came 75 deep.

Speaker A:

That sound about right?

Speaker A:

Shout out Compton A.V.

Speaker B:

I was living.

Speaker A:

She don't do.

Speaker A:

I'm bumping the microphone.

Speaker A:

She does not do yo.

Speaker B:

No more.

Speaker B:

I am corporate, people.

Speaker A:

She graduated from respected.

Speaker B:

Yes, I am corporate.

Speaker B:

And I. I'm trying to elevate and bring all my people to corporation stuff.

Speaker B:

Like, let's leave it behind.

Speaker A:

We know what money tastes like.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Black excellence.

Speaker A:

When we gonna taste black?

Speaker A:

Excellent money.

Speaker A:

Black excellence.

Speaker B:

And let's not get it twisted, though.

Speaker B:

You could still be dipped and still be corporate.

Speaker B:

You can still be yourself and your culture and be corporate.

Speaker B:

Because that's just like me, because I got a PhD and they call me Dr. Stans.

Speaker B:

They have this expectation of me.

Speaker B:

Swallow that.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

Because I'm still gonna be me.

Speaker B:

So that's why I respect you as a man.

Speaker B:

To even come on here and say that you were an alcoholic and now you clean and went to aa.

Speaker A:

One thing I.

Speaker B:

A lot of people won't say that.

Speaker A:

One thing I will correct.

Speaker A:

I'm still an alcoholic, right?

Speaker A:

People.

Speaker A:

People feel like, oh, if you haven't had a drink, you're not an alcoholic no more.

Speaker A:

No, you still see alcoholism is a disease, right?

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And people be like, no, you're not an alcoholic no more.

Speaker A:

You have Been drinking almost six years.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

But as soon as I take a sip of.

Speaker A:

I'm not gonna be able to take a sip.

Speaker A:

I will be right back to drinking fifths.

Speaker A:

Two fifths a day.

Speaker B:

I disagree.

Speaker A:

One.

Speaker A:

A one is too many, and a thousand is never enough.

Speaker B:

I disagree.

Speaker B:

I disagree with you because that's just like saying, I'm a smoker.

Speaker B:

I'm not a smoker.

Speaker B:

I quit.

Speaker B:

Like, if I quit, I quit.

Speaker B:

Stand on business.

Speaker A:

Smokers are.

Speaker A:

Is.

Speaker A:

Smoker is not a disease.

Speaker A:

Alcoholism is a disease.

Speaker B:

You can get lung cancer.

Speaker B:

No, you get lung cancer.

Speaker A:

Smoking causes disease, Causes lung cancer.

Speaker A:

Alcoholism is a scientific, medically recognized disease.

Speaker B:

What Dr. Stan just created.

Speaker B:

Smokeism.

Speaker A:

Smokeism, okay.

Speaker B:

And at the end of the day, it's still an addiction.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Anything that.

Speaker A:

Addiction is a disease.

Speaker B:

There you go.

Speaker B:

I was just gonna say addiction is a disease.

Speaker A:

Medically recognized disease.

Speaker A:

So it's a mental disorder.

Speaker B:

So for me, I don't feel like you're an alcoholic because you have.

Speaker B:

First of all, don't even walk around carrying that.

Speaker B:

You're healed.

Speaker B:

People heal, and we change.

Speaker A:

Yes, indeed.

Speaker B:

So technically, you're not an alcoholic.

Speaker B:

You were an alcoholic.

Speaker B:

But right now, no, you are present beautiful black being.

Speaker B:

That's a man living in today's society.

Speaker B:

That's tough.

Speaker B:

So to me, let's just keep it all the way 1.

Speaker B:

Honey, the fact that even where I met you at Fab's bowling thing, everybody in there drink.

Speaker B:

It's a whole bar in there.

Speaker B:

You could have easily went and got a drink.

Speaker B:

But the fact that you can be in a room with other people that are alcoholics that do drink, that shows power right there.

Speaker B:

So give yourself more credit.

Speaker B:

You are not an alcohol.

Speaker B:

Don't even claim that straight up.

Speaker B:

You are not an alcoholic.

Speaker B:

Because I. I know alcoholics, and you are not.

Speaker B:

So you look good, though.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

I feel good.

Speaker B:

I definitely want my roses and the diamond next to now.

Speaker B:

Are you single?

Speaker A:

How many more roses you want?

Speaker B:

Every day I gotta give you rose.

Speaker B:

I gotta set the bar for my foster youth.

Speaker A:

See what happens.

Speaker B:

They need to know.

Speaker A:

See, one rose is too many, and a thousand is never enough.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

Look.

Speaker B:

Oh, I'm gonna get you right here.

Speaker B:

When you want your daughter to want roses from a man every day or want some type of gifts, and that's my love language.

Speaker B:

I get you every time with the daughter.

Speaker B:

Cause you look away.

Speaker B:

Wouldn't you want your daughter or a man to, like, buy roses for your daughter every day because she's special.

Speaker A:

She has a man.

Speaker A:

I'm realistic of flowers every day in the house.

Speaker A:

That ain't going to work now.

Speaker A:

Why?

Speaker A:

Flowers every day in the house.

Speaker B:

Every day?

Speaker A:

Every day.

Speaker A:

Good God.

Speaker B:

At least five days a week.

Speaker A:

Five days a week.

Speaker B:

And ain't got to be roses or expensive.

Speaker B:

Just give me a fly.

Speaker B:

Show me some type of love.

Speaker A:

Some type of love?

Speaker B:

Yeah, let's talk about that.

Speaker B:

What's like, are you single?

Speaker B:

I asked you that.

Speaker B:

You tried to skip.

Speaker A:

I'm single, okay?

Speaker A:

All my understand, I'm single.

Speaker B:

Oh, my gracious.

Speaker A:

Hey, hey, hey.

Speaker A:

Cut that point.

Speaker A:

No, no, I've been single.

Speaker A:

I've been single for quite some time.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker A:

And that's when I've done my most growing.

Speaker A:

The most growing I've done is single facts.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

Solo bolo.

Speaker B:

So you celibate?

Speaker A:

Celibate?

Speaker A:

I celibitch.

Speaker A:

I celibitch a dream.

Speaker A:

I celibate here, I celibitch there.

Speaker A:

No, I haven't sold bitches in a long time.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker A:

I have not celt a bitch in a long time.

Speaker A:

Do you celibitch?

Speaker B:

Yeah, actually I've been celibate for like six months.

Speaker A:

Oh, celibate.

Speaker B:

What you thought I said celibitch?

Speaker B:

I thought you really was joking and was playing off the road.

Speaker A:

I am really joking.

Speaker B:

So is you celibate or what we doing?

Speaker B:

Is you celibate for real?

Speaker A:

No, I'm not celibate.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

Am I celibate?

Speaker A:

Shit.

Speaker A:

You know what?

Speaker A:

Let me tell you something.

Speaker A:

One thing about.

Speaker B:

I have to sit up for me,.

Speaker A:

I have to sit up for this one thing about stopping drinking and smoking and drugs.

Speaker A:

That's when you start to grow, right?

Speaker A:

Like really grow mentally, seriously, emotionally, all of that shit.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And one of the things that one of my areas of growth is putting is changing the priority level of pussy.

Speaker A:

You know, just me being a man.

Speaker A:

The priority of pussy has been up here for quite some time.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker A:

But as I'm growing, I'm placing it at a different priority.

Speaker A:

And I'm getting more done now that I'm not having sex all the time.

Speaker A:

Different women and this and that.

Speaker B:

What gets old.

Speaker A:

Pussy never gets old.

Speaker A:

Oh, but pussy is just the right age.

Speaker B:

Well, this is the thing I feel like.

Speaker A:

No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker B:

When there's no substance to it, that because what you're doing is wearing the value out in your wee wee.

Speaker A:

I. I can agree.

Speaker B:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You're, you're, you're, you're, you're.

Speaker A:

And I'm my spirit, I'm a soul all that.

Speaker B:

It's, it's.

Speaker B:

It, it.

Speaker B:

It literally drains you when you deal with so many different women.

Speaker B:

And I don't think men understand that.

Speaker B:

And then they wonder why they walk around crazy.

Speaker B:

But when you deal with so huh.

Speaker A:

A bunch of soul ties, period, when.

Speaker B:

You do that is actually extremely unhealthy.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Because now even if you don't catch a disease, even if you don't do.

Speaker B:

That, it's still a soul tie.

Speaker B:

And I think those toxic ties make this not perform correctly at times, especially when you get of an older age.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So I wonder, has alcohol affected that area?

Speaker B:

No, actually, I know that's a lie.

Speaker B:

It actually makes it probably better both.

Speaker A:

See alcohol with alcoholism.

Speaker A:

For me, I'm over here stuttering.

Speaker B:

That stance ain't make you uncomfortable, is she?

Speaker A:

I'm so comfortable with you.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I'm so comfortable with you.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

This gonna go viral, me and you on this.

Speaker A:

Nah.

Speaker A:

Oh, wait.

Speaker A:

What the question was.

Speaker B:

I didn't forgot Percy.

Speaker B:

What the damn question was.

Speaker B:

Alcohol affect your wee wee.

Speaker B:

See.

Speaker B:

So look, I didn't forgot to.

Speaker B:

I'm not looking.

Speaker A:

I'm one of the hugest reasons.

Speaker A:

I quit alcohol because alcohol stopped doing for me and started doing to me.

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker A:

So I remember back in the good old days when you drank and.

Speaker A:

And enhanced sex like a.

Speaker B:

It do.

Speaker A:

It enhanced the sex.

Speaker A:

My level of drinking got so high that I would invite a woman over to have sex and drinking was the priority.

Speaker A:

We wouldn't even fuck.

Speaker A:

It wasn't that per se.

Speaker A:

I. I couldn't get hard or whatever.

Speaker A:

That might have happened before too.

Speaker A:

I'm sure.

Speaker A:

But the biggest thing was I didn't even care to even try to fuck because alcohol.

Speaker A:

The alcohol was more important.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

You know, and then typically you attract what you tend.

Speaker A:

We tend to attract what we are.

Speaker B:

Yes, we do.

Speaker A:

So if I'm drinking at this level, I'm attracting females that drink at this level.

Speaker B:

Oh, toxic.

Speaker A:

And so we would.

Speaker A:

So if I'm drinking like that and she drinking like that, she come over.

Speaker A:

We both think we finna.

Speaker A:

We don't.

Speaker A:

We drank and passed the out.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker A:

So alcohol stopped doing for me.

Speaker A:

Started doing to me.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Nah.

Speaker A:

Nowadays.

Speaker A:

Nowadays.

Speaker A:

Nowadays sex and lust is a.

Speaker A:

Is.

Speaker A:

Is prioritized.

Speaker A:

Way more healthy for me now.

Speaker A:

Way more.

Speaker B:

Congratulations.

Speaker A:

And I knew I was growing when I turned down bad.

Speaker A:

You know.

Speaker A:

And I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm not just that.

Speaker A:

That's not to brag.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

That's just a statement.

Speaker A:

That's Fact, previously, I was not able.

Speaker A:

I didn't want to turn down a bad bitch.

Speaker A:

I wanted to show every single female how good my dick was.

Speaker B:

I got a question.

Speaker A:

Talk to me.

Speaker B:

What's a bad b.

Speaker A:

What is a bad bitch?

Speaker A:

It depends on who you ask.

Speaker A:

But I guess asking me, okay, does that woman consider herself to be a bitch?

Speaker A:

For one.

Speaker A:

So if, say, for instance, I considered a woman to be a bad bitch, she say, I'm not a bitch.

Speaker A:

Well, then, no, she's not a bad bitch.

Speaker A:

She's probably a strong woman, but typically a bad bitch.

Speaker A:

Typically, you know, a woman who got it up out the mud.

Speaker A:

A woman who came from.

Speaker A:

Probably came from nothing to something.

Speaker A:

Got her shit together.

Speaker A:

A high value woman.

Speaker A:

A high value woman.

Speaker A:

Or, excuse me, I wouldn't even say a high value woman.

Speaker A:

A high value bitch is a bad bitch.

Speaker A:

A high value bitch is a bad bitch.

Speaker B:

And what is that?

Speaker B:

I want you to elaborate.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker B:

Cause I think I just had Titi Dwin on here where she was talking about a high value woman.

Speaker B:

Cause to me, what a high value man is.

Speaker B:

I'll tell you what, my perception of a high value man is one that knows himself.

Speaker B:

And it's not necessarily about money.

Speaker B:

It's more or less about knowing how to treat a woman.

Speaker B:

Loving yourself first, of course.

Speaker B:

And most importantly, loving God first.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

You know, and making sure, you know, being thoughtful like this.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

You definitely.

Speaker B:

You thought, I don't know if this was a Mac or if this was D Boy or Mackin or if this was.

Speaker B:

Darian brought me this.

Speaker B:

Who bought me these?

Speaker A:

Darian bought them flowers.

Speaker A:

D Boy said, nigga, sit your square ass down.

Speaker A:

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Speaker A:

That's what D Boy told Darian.

Speaker A:

See, D Bo the Mac is Darian's stunt double.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Alter ego.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's the alter ego.

Speaker A:

Dwar, the Mac is the stunt double.

Speaker A:

I'm tickled, man.

Speaker B:

No, no, no, you did.

Speaker B:

You did very good.

Speaker B:

I feel like a real man.

Speaker B:

You recognize I'm a genuine woman.

Speaker B:

We had conversations.

Speaker B:

We just talked on the phone.

Speaker B:

You know, you recognize I'm a real one.

Speaker B:

So therefore, you did a real act.

Speaker B:

That's a smart man.

Speaker B:

Like, you know, we.

Speaker B:

I'm in motion.

Speaker B:

You know, I got my network.

Speaker B:

I need your movies on.

Speaker A:

Proud of you.

Speaker B:

I need your movies on there.

Speaker A:

Let's talk about the movie when we get a chance.

Speaker B:

We.

Speaker B:

Let's talk about it.

Speaker B:

Actually, right now.

Speaker A:

Let's get to that.

Speaker B:

Because, you know, like, they know.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Be with studio.

Speaker B:

Just started my own network.

Speaker B:

I got a couple shows up there.

Speaker B:

Yay.

Speaker B:

I'm so excited.

Speaker A:

Production team Percy Production Shout out Percy Yo, Percy.

Speaker B:

Shot.

Speaker B:

What's your business?

Speaker B:

Percy Baby P. Hey.

Speaker B:

The dopest producer I know.

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I want your stud.

Speaker B:

Tell me about the movie, the one you just came.

Speaker B:

I'm so excited.

Speaker A:

But I'm still working on it.

Speaker A:

We still working on it.

Speaker B:

I need it.

Speaker A:

It is called.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

Cut this part out.

Speaker A:

What's the.

Speaker A:

My Brother's Keeper.

Speaker B:

Keep that party.

Speaker A:

Shout out Chris Evans Christopher Evans, producer and director out of Oakland.

Speaker A:

I don't know if we go.

Speaker A:

I should let the cat out the back.

Speaker A:

But I'm gonna let the cat out the bag.

Speaker A:

Chris Evans is my real blood cousin.

Speaker B:

I was just gonna ask.

Speaker B:

Is that your family?

Speaker B:

Because it's Evans.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker A:

He's my real blood cousin.

Speaker A:

I'm hella proud of him.

Speaker A:

Shout out Ryan Coogler.

Speaker A:

But I think Chris Evans got the potential to surpass Ryan Coogler.

Speaker A:

He really do.

Speaker A:

Professionalism.

Speaker A:

And when we.

Speaker A:

When we.

Speaker A:

When we spoke about high value men and placing, you know, being corp.

Speaker A:

Going from money to corporate, being a. Yeah.

Speaker A:

Black.

Speaker A:

Excellence in corporate.

Speaker A:

Chris Evans.

Speaker B:

I love that.

Speaker A:

So I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm super proud to be a.

Speaker A:

A part of My Brother's Keeper.

Speaker A:

In the movie.

Speaker A:

I play the role.

Speaker A:

Bricks.

Speaker A:

Antonio Briggs is my name.

Speaker B:

What is.

Speaker B:

What was your.

Speaker B:

All right, now.

Speaker A:

What was your character, of all things?

Speaker A:

I'm a drug dealer.

Speaker A:

That's all I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker A:

Am I an antagonist or the protagonist?

Speaker A:

Y' all gonna have to find out.

Speaker B:

I wanna see.

Speaker A:

I wanna see.

Speaker B:

I wanna see.

Speaker B:

When is it coming?

Speaker B:

Tell the people.

Speaker B:

When do we expect to see it?

Speaker A:

Summertime.

Speaker A:

Summertime.

Speaker A:

So we thinking.

Speaker A:

I think realistically, I'm thinking August.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

But Chris said it's gonna be out by July.

Speaker A:

Early July.

Speaker B:

I like it.

Speaker B:

I like it.

Speaker B:

I need it on that network, man.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I promised to God.

Speaker A:

I told him about you.

Speaker B:

Did you?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

He couldn't make it.

Speaker A:

He couldn't make it today because he is recording.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

At work.

Speaker A:

My Brother's keeper is his baby.

Speaker A:

Like, this is his first movie.

Speaker A:

He's your baby.

Speaker A:

It's not his first movie, but this is his biggest.

Speaker B:

This is his biggest one.

Speaker A:

And the script is so he.

Speaker A:

Man, he didn't miss a corner.

Speaker A:

He dotted every.

Speaker A:

I crossed every T. His little.

Speaker A:

What they call that?

Speaker A:

Nuggets all throughout it.

Speaker B:

I love it.

Speaker A:

That boy is a genius.

Speaker A:

Shout out Chris Evans.

Speaker B:

I'm proud.

Speaker B:

That's what's up?

Speaker B:

We need more of this.

Speaker B:

He will be making movies.

Speaker A:

He will be here.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna connect that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, connect him.

Speaker B:

I would love to interview him as a black producer.

Speaker B:

Percy next.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker B:

I was just gonna say, like, that's a great connection.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Because I'm coming up with a show.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna tell the cat out the back, but I got my own show.

Speaker B:

It's a celebrity show that I'm working on.

Speaker B:

And so we need a more added to our team.

Speaker B:

Percy definitely need help because it's a lot of me.

Speaker B:

A lot of me is a lot of me to deal with.

Speaker B:

So Percy needs some help with editing, producing.

Speaker B:

So I would love to connect those dots and continue to build be with.

Speaker A:

Studios team because this is history in the making.

Speaker B:

No, I'm serious.

Speaker B:

I'm serious.

Speaker A:

Watch what's gonna happen with.

Speaker A:

With Dr. Stance and Evans.

Speaker A:

Chris Evans.

Speaker B:

Let's do it.

Speaker B:

I'm with it.

Speaker B:

I. I'm stoked.

Speaker B:

I want to help.

Speaker B:

I want to support.

Speaker B:

If I can be the network to be, you know, just to promote it.

Speaker B:

Whatever I could do to help, I'm here.

Speaker B:

And I would love his help.

Speaker B:

I'm not afraid to ask for help to build excellence.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

If I know anybody that know me, if I got a vision, I'm gonna make it happen.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

And I ain't gonna stop till I do.

Speaker B:

My line, Percy, the proof is in the pudding.

Speaker B:

There you go.

Speaker A:

This is the proof right here.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm going to make it happen.

Speaker B:

If I say I'm going to do something, put my mind to it.

Speaker B:

You're going to see my reality show and it's going to be.

Speaker B:

I'm going to be bigger than Zeus.

Speaker B:

If better shout out to Lemmy and Natalie and all them and Jocelyn.

Speaker B:

But I'm going to be the next Zeus female own biggest network.

Speaker B:

I love it.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Oprah because I would like to be like on two.

Speaker A:

There you go.

Speaker B:

But no, what else is coming?

Speaker B:

What else you got going on?

Speaker B:

You got that movie.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

We going to backtrack just a little bit.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Why did you.

Speaker A:

Why are you choosing celibacy?

Speaker B:

Oh, Lord.

Speaker B:

Well, I see where your mind is.

Speaker B:

This is hilarious to me.

Speaker B:

I don't know if this is.

Speaker A:

Y' all see how she put my mind in the gutter?

Speaker B:

No, it's not.

Speaker B:

I didn't say that.

Speaker B:

You said it.

Speaker A:

Oh, God.

Speaker A:

Continue.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I forgot.

Speaker A:

I'm speaking with a female Mac right now, so I cannot outward her.

Speaker A:

Y' All I'm trying to outward her.

Speaker A:

It ain't going to happen.

Speaker B:

My thing is.

Speaker B:

No, I am.

Speaker B:

I know my worth.

Speaker B:

And it took me a long time, I think, to figure that out.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And not saying I'm better than anybody or not.

Speaker B:

I'm not effable, if that makes sense.

Speaker B:

But I just feel like I know my worth and I'm kind of like you.

Speaker B:

Once I get in business mode, that be kind of like the last thing on my mind.

Speaker A:

And I never thought I would feel like that.

Speaker B:

It don't work unless.

Speaker B:

It don't even work for me unless I'm in love.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

To be honest with you, like, I don't even work.

Speaker B:

I'm not even gonna work unless I'm in love.

Speaker B:

And what I think I love right now is my bag and my legacy.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And be with.

Speaker B:

I'm everywhere.

Speaker B:

And so I think that is what sex is to me right now.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Not saying I won't have that intimacy or something like that with somebody, but right now, that's just the Lisa my thing.

Speaker B:

It ain't gonna get this legacy going.

Speaker B:

I am 43.

Speaker B:

I want to be like literally a multi millionaire and just living the most comfortable lifetime.

Speaker B:

I hit 47.

Speaker A:

I feel that, you know, I mean,.

Speaker B:

That's a good number for me.

Speaker B:

And I just want to.

Speaker B:

But not even just that.

Speaker B:

I want to put so many people.

Speaker B:

I want to be like J. Styler.

Speaker B:

Like how he put people.

Speaker A:

I want to help me people in the position.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I want.

Speaker B:

And I've done that just in a different industry.

Speaker A:

Like Stall is in the Stalin is in the movies now.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Producing direct.

Speaker B:

Supposed to be doing my documentary on From a Hoe to a CEO.

Speaker B:

So I'm waiting on that.

Speaker A:

Boom.

Speaker B:

I would love a documentary on my book.

Speaker B:

You really got to read my book.

Speaker B:

Like when you get the time.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker B:

I got audio too.

Speaker B:

But it's really a good book and I think it'll be a great documentary.

Speaker B:

I seriously think that when I tell you it's real life.

Speaker B:

Whole stories, you know, it's real life just coming up as a child trauma.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And being able to make it out of that and crazy thing is help kids that are prostitutes.

Speaker B:

And that's been through the same trauma I've been through foster care.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So for me, back to being celibate, it's just the last thing on my mind.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Like I'm really, when I say focused, like I wouldn't have been able to build this if I would have been so worried about getting screwed.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Because guess what?

Speaker B:

We were just talking about that when you screwing somebody, it's that soul tie.

Speaker B:

And I don't have time for that soul tie right now because it will deter me from my direction that I'm trying to help myself and others create this legacy.

Speaker B:

Straight up.

Speaker A:

Nowadays, I'm so unattracted to women who don't understand hustle, who don't understand that all that lovey dovey, fake.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna call it fake, but it's fake to me.

Speaker A:

All that old movie love and R B song love.

Speaker A:

If that's your focus and you don't see that you're dealing with a man that's hustle motivated.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Money motivated and business first.

Speaker A:

I'm not even gonna be attracted to you anyway.

Speaker A:

More than.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Something past sex.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker B:

Well, I will say this.

Speaker B:

I don't want to grow old alone though.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I don't think nobody do.

Speaker B:

But I also.

Speaker B:

I don't want to settle.

Speaker A:

I'm not gonna settle.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I don't wanna settle.

Speaker B:

And then.

Speaker B:

Cause it's the real statement when they say you can be happier by yourself than to be with somebody.

Speaker B:

That'll bring you down.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And I just don't wanna deal with that.

Speaker B:

I wanna be able to make the right decision on who I decide to give myself to.

Speaker B:

And I ain't just talking about vajayjay.

Speaker B:

I'm talking about my soul.

Speaker B:

You know, because I'm a Leo.

Speaker B:

We love hard.

Speaker B:

And when we love, we love.

Speaker B:

And we'll give you the world.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Like how you.

Speaker B:

I'll be bringing you flowers.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, that's the type of lady I am.

Speaker B:

I'll buy you gifts.

Speaker B:

Hell, it's obvious I give off a satchi roll.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I mean, I'm just saying.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

Man, you know my Versace wrong.

Speaker B:

Well, we gonna get to that.

Speaker B:

Just a minute.

Speaker B:

Because we.

Speaker B:

You probably.

Speaker B:

This is a good conversation because time has went by.

Speaker B:

We actually been talking an hour.

Speaker B:

I think my longest one was an hour and 13 minutes.

Speaker B:

So that's shout out to TT Dwin, but okay.

Speaker B:

I guess we could kind of wrap it up.

Speaker B:

But that was just the moral to my story, I think.

Speaker B:

Anybody.

Speaker B:

Anybody that's single.

Speaker B:

Don't rush it.

Speaker B:

That's Just I think the advice that I could take because I've rushed relationships, and it didn't do nothing but cause me turmoil and headaches and losing money and.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And just bad decision making bad decisions, you know?

Speaker B:

And I don't want to be like, mistakes.

Speaker A:

Not even just mistakes.

Speaker A:

Bad decisions.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Made a ton of them.

Speaker B:

I don't want to rush and.

Speaker A:

And yeah, like I said, you don't.

Speaker B:

Have to be friends with somebody first.

Speaker B:

Like, there's nothing wrong with building a friendship.

Speaker B:

And to me, this is to all the ladies.

Speaker B:

If a man wants you, he gonna put in the work.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

I don't care how hard it is, he gonna put in that work if he really wants.

Speaker B:

Really wants you.

Speaker A:

If we really want you, you're gonna put the work.

Speaker A:

We're gonna go way up out of.

Speaker A:

It's in a man's nature.

Speaker B:

It's in your nature.

Speaker A:

It's in a man's nature to want to wow the right woman.

Speaker B:

And there you go.

Speaker A:

Impress the right woman, not make the right woman happy.

Speaker A:

I try.

Speaker A:

I try to pick my words differently now, but, yeah, make a woman.

Speaker A:

For lack of better terms, make a woman happy.

Speaker B:

Abs.

Speaker A:

You want to.

Speaker B:

You want to like.

Speaker B:

We ain't got to like.

Speaker B:

And that's another thing.

Speaker B:

We.

Speaker B:

I would talk about that all day.

Speaker B:

How women are forcing men to like, I need to get married.

Speaker B:

And you shouldn't have to force a man to want to marry you.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

He gonna get on that knee automatically without you having to do anything.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

It's just.

Speaker B:

It's just what's going to happen.

Speaker B:

A man.

Speaker B:

You guys are to pray.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

If it's right.

Speaker B:

If it's right, it's right.

Speaker B:

So I just.

Speaker B:

I be.

Speaker B:

It's women these days getting on their knee.

Speaker B:

I wish.

Speaker B:

Listen, if.

Speaker B:

Listen, my knees ain't even gonna work.

Speaker B:

They don't even go that low to be getting on my knee to propose no longer.

Speaker B:

Any of that.

Speaker B:

No way.

Speaker B:

I'm proposing to no man.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And we not supposed to.

Speaker A:

If a woman.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

To me, I would already.

Speaker B:

What would you do?

Speaker B:

Would you say yes?

Speaker A:

I think if a woman proposed to me, it would be because she wasn't good enough for me to propose to her.

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker A:

That's why it happened.

Speaker B:

Ooh.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

Cause if she was good enough, I would have proposed to her.

Speaker A:

I've been married before.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

I was married for nine years to my kid's mom.

Speaker A:

We the best of friends now.

Speaker A:

We make Way better friends than us together.

Speaker A:

Than us being us together.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But yeah, I. I was married.

Speaker A:

And so when I hear females, you know, trying to pressure me into committed relationships and.

Speaker A:

And marriage, and I'm like, you gotta understand, I've already done the.

Speaker A:

That you begging me to do.

Speaker A:

I've done it before.

Speaker A:

I've done.

Speaker A:

I've been around the world.

Speaker A:

Around the world, Craig.

Speaker A:

Around the nation, state to state, city to city, country to country.

Speaker A:

I been there.

Speaker A:

I've known so many people.

Speaker A:

So I say all that to say a lot of the shit that women are pressuring, attempt to pressure me to do.

Speaker A:

I already did it.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So me being business focused is easy to me.

Speaker A:

And when a woman don't understand that she didn't already turn me off.

Speaker B:

You know, I think that's funny you say that.

Speaker B:

I think even me and Percy was talking about that.

Speaker B:

Because Percy live on a computer, okay?

Speaker B:

And that's his life.

Speaker B:

Because he's a producer, he's an editor.

Speaker B:

And I was telling him because he's single too.

Speaker B:

And I was just like, p, you gonna need a woman that's dang there in the same industry because.

Speaker A:

To understand.

Speaker B:

To understand why he's at the computer.

Speaker B:

One, to make us a better living and two, so we can get the work done so she's not in that.

Speaker A:

Not no insecure ass woman that think you staring at other women and porn on a computer, flirting non stop.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

On the social media.

Speaker B:

I'm working.

Speaker A:

I'm creating a motherfucking legacy.

Speaker B:

Legacy.

Speaker A:

You know, Period.

Speaker B:

I love that.

Speaker B:

Well, listen, we gonna end this on a good note.

Speaker B:

You already know the deal.

Speaker B:

You know what Dr. Stanz do gone and look under your seat.

Speaker B:

I hate this food.

Speaker B:

This one probably be going viral.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

Shout out.

Speaker A:

B Wit, what's happening?

Speaker A:

Oh, my stomach hurt.

Speaker A:

My baby.

Speaker A:

My.

Speaker A:

My baby.

Speaker A:

How you know?

Speaker A:

I got a Versace robe, that's how I know.

Speaker B:

I hate you, bro.

Speaker B:

He played.

Speaker A:

This could be a good movie with him acting.

Speaker B:

Oh, like you are definitely character.

Speaker B:

I gotta see that movie.

Speaker A:

Oh, this motherfucker's sexy.

Speaker B:

I hope you can fit it too.

Speaker B:

If it's too big or too small, let me know.

Speaker A:

I gotta.

Speaker A:

It's too perfect.

Speaker A:

That's what the fuck it is.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm going home with my roses, man.

Speaker A:

I can see me now, showing up at your door, yanking my robe, cleaning the first.

Speaker A:

He just.

Speaker B:

He gets a kick out of the show.

Speaker B:

Edit.

Speaker A:

Edit that part out.

Speaker A:

Edit that part out.

Speaker A:

No, don't don't.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

This one go viral.

Speaker B:

I love it, though.

Speaker A:

Jesus.

Speaker B:

We will be creating a movie together, actually, because you're good.

Speaker B:

You're good.

Speaker A:

I've been trying to get you in the movie since I met you.

Speaker A:

Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker A:

What kind of movie you talking about?

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Where Evans is going to be.

Speaker B:

Is going to be the producer.

Speaker A:

Oh, man.

Speaker A:

Thank you so much.

Speaker A:

For real, I got a real.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

And this ain't cheap.

Speaker B:

No, no, it ain't cheap.

Speaker A:

I. I would like, let it all fall open, but I'm not.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

So pretty.

Speaker B:

And I got you a book.

Speaker B:

I wanted to give you my book.

Speaker B:

It's over there.

Speaker B:

And I got you a shirt.

Speaker B:

You got the double whammy.

Speaker B:

Just cuz you know what I feel like when we talk on the phone and you was talking about alcoholism.

Speaker B:

Alcoholism.

Speaker B:

You know, to me, I have family members that struggle with that and they're very in denial about it.

Speaker B:

And I think that you.

Speaker A:

You know, it's a huge characteristic is.

Speaker B:

That's bigger than life.

Speaker B:

So I gave you that, you know, And I just think that you deserve it, bro.

Speaker B:

You really.

Speaker B:

You really come far in life.

Speaker B:

You look good, you smell good, and you're very respectable, man.

Speaker B:

You're the first man that brought me some roses.

Speaker B:

Shout out to King Millie.

Speaker B:

He brought me something, too, but I just.

Speaker B:

And Erica.

Speaker B:

But I just think this speaks volume right here.

Speaker B:

And not.

Speaker A:

And it came from before we go.

Speaker B:

And it came from her.

Speaker B:

And it matches shoes.

Speaker B:

Look it.

Speaker B:

He do too much.

Speaker B:

He play too much.

Speaker A:

I didn't think she was gonna notice.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

On some real.

Speaker A:

I didn't even notice shoes.

Speaker B:

I need some of them.

Speaker B:

I got almost every cuz.

Speaker B:

Shout out to P Money.

Speaker B:

You see him over there?

Speaker A:

Like, why you tired of me wearing my van?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I bought them them shoes.

Speaker B:

Like, let's go, players.

Speaker A:

That's love.

Speaker B:

Cut that out.

Speaker A:

Y' all got a genuine friendship.

Speaker B:

No, that's not.

Speaker A:

These ain't cheap.

Speaker B:

They're not at all.

Speaker B:

So you hear him, Percy?

Speaker B:

So you should deal with my madness.

Speaker A:

Ah.

Speaker A:

Cause I love you.

Speaker B:

For real.

Speaker A:

I think Dylan would have won.

Speaker A:

Every single day and night we're on the phone like Mastermind.

Speaker A:

Did you do this?

Speaker A:

Did you do that?

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I'm sorry to wake you up.

Speaker A:

I know, but I need to.

Speaker A:

Right when I'm about to sit down and watch a movie.

Speaker B:

Could you do.

Speaker B:

You do this person first.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

We'll move you up to the chart because I think this is going to be a good one.

Speaker B:

Out of all these guests that came today, I think you, you number one.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I really appreciate that.

Speaker B:

Like, I know that's right.

Speaker B:

Entertainment is funny in the most importantly, alcoholism.

Speaker B:

A lot of guys that come from the industry that are in the streets or whatever, they need to hear this.

Speaker B:

So I really appreciate coming.

Speaker B:

I love you to death.

Speaker A:

I think you're dead.

Speaker B:

And movie man, I'm going to see.

Speaker A:

You on that real.

Speaker A:

Let's go on that screen.

Speaker B:

We is out with deep Mac T boy, we out.

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Turning Hustle Into Legacy is a purpose-driven podcast hosted by Dr. Stance, entrepreneur, visionary, and leader in impact-focused business. The show dives into what it truly takes to build success that lasts—financially, personally, and generationally. Each episode features honest, in-depth conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, and community leaders who are redefining success on their own terms. Guests unpack the real stories behind their journeys—from side hustles to scalable brands, from setbacks to breakthroughs—sharing the mindset, strategies, and discipline required to turn ambition into meaningful impact. With no fluff and no filters, Turning Hustle Into Legacy delivers raw insight, actionable lessons, and powerful perspectives on leadership, resilience, and growth. Whether you’re launching a business, scaling a brand, or stepping into your next level of purpose, this podcast provides the clarity and momentum needed to build something that outlives the grind. This is where hustle becomes legacy.
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Education & Professional Background

Dr. Stance holds a Ph.D. in Psychology with a concentration in Trauma-Informed Care, providing a strong clinical and academic foundation for the work led across all programs and initiatives. This advanced training informs Dr. Stance’s approach to mental health advocacy, foster care reform, mentorship, and community-based services, ensuring practices are evidence-informed, ethically grounded, and responsive to the impacts of trauma.

Dr. Stance’s work is deeply informed by lived experience shaped by childhood trauma, providing a personal and empathetic understanding of the challenges faced by foster youth and system-impacted individuals. Having navigated early adversity, instability, and the long-term effects of trauma, Dr. Stance brings both professional expertise and personal insight to the development of programs that prioritize safety, trust, and empowerment. This lived experience strengthens Dr. Stance’s connection to foster youth and individuals in care, allowing for services that are not only clinically sound but also grounded in compassion, relatability, and authenticity. Rather than approaching trauma from theory alone, Dr. Stance integrates real-world understanding into mentorship, program design, and leadership—ensuring individuals feel seen, supported, and capable of growth beyond their circumstances.

Dr. Stance is a purpose-driven leader, author, and mental health advocate dedicated to transforming hustle into sustainable legacy. As the founder and CEO of the non-profit, BWIT Luxurious Fostering, Dr. Stance is redefining trauma-informed care for foster youth and adults through dignity, structure, and empowerment. Dr. Stance is the creator and host of the podcast Turning Hustle Into Legacy, where discipline, faith, mindset, and leadership intersect to build generational impact. An author of From a Hoe to C.E.O., Dr. Stance uses lived experience, mentorship, and mental health advocacy to help individuals move from survival to purpose.