Episode 40

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Published on:

17th Aug 2026

J. Stalin: Fame, Family, and the Hustle Life

Dr. Stance and J. Stalin dive into an exhilarating conversation that’s all about hustling hard and turning that grind into a legacy. This episode is packed with laughter and candid insights, as J. Stalin shares his journey from the Bay Area to becoming a music and business mogul, emphasizing the importance of authenticity in a world filled with clickbait and facade. We get to hear hilarious anecdotes, including the challenges of getting J. Stalin on the show—trust me, it was like pulling a giraffe's tooth! The two discuss everything from fatherhood to entrepreneurship, and how real success comes from staying true to oneself and supporting others in the community. Join us for a fun-filled ride with plenty of laughs and wisdom that’ll have you thinking about your own hustle in a whole new light!

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Speaker A:

Foreign.

Speaker B:

Today.

Speaker B:

Thank y' all for tuning in with Dr. Stanz.

Speaker B:

Would turn your hustle into a legacy.

Speaker B:

I had to pull a giraffe's tooth and a ball to get this one.

Speaker B:

Lord, this beautiful man here, Jay Stalin, the one and only Bay Area legend.

Speaker B:

He's.

Speaker B:

He's just taking over.

Speaker B:

You've taken over.

Speaker B:

But, Lord, getting him was hard.

Speaker B:

But I am so fortunate.

Speaker B:

And Cuzzo over there, shout out to Capone.

Speaker B:

He was talking so much, man.

Speaker B:

You Kid J. Stallon, you won.

Speaker B:

Didn't you say?

Speaker B:

Look at his face.

Speaker A:

He know I cuz, he know I don't do this.

Speaker B:

I won't.

Speaker A:

If I do an interview with you, I like you as a person.

Speaker B:

Thank you so much.

Speaker B:

Even though you didn't answer the phone.

Speaker B:

But it's cool.

Speaker B:

But everybody knows you don't answer the phone, so I don't feel like I ain't special.

Speaker B:

But anyway.

Speaker B:

What's up, brother?

Speaker A:

Oh, man, just working, man.

Speaker A:

You know, being a dad, being.

Speaker A:

Being an entrepreneur, running multiple businesses and trying to stay humble at the same time, period.

Speaker B:

Well, you're so cute in person.

Speaker B:

This is our first time.

Speaker B:

Oh, thank you.

Speaker B:

So cute, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

He's just so cute.

Speaker B:

You know, it's funny.

Speaker B:

Cause I don't know if you've seen, but I had the mechanics on here.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And the one thing I asked them was who their favorite rapper was.

Speaker B:

And, you know, they said, you right.

Speaker B:

I knew he was gonna have that face.

Speaker B:

They said, you.

Speaker B:

They.

Speaker B:

They said.

Speaker B:

Cause you started from the root, they started with you.

Speaker B:

And so that, to me, is when I was like, okay, look, Racks, I need you to get them for me.

Speaker B:

And if that's the case, I need them here.

Speaker B:

So I'm just honored that you came.

Speaker B:

I'm honored that you showed up for Dr. Stantz and you're all, love, mama.

Speaker A:

I support any black person that's trying to do something positive for the culture.

Speaker A:

Feel me?

Speaker A:

That's it, bro.

Speaker A:

I don't.

Speaker A:

I just don't.

Speaker A:

With.

Speaker A:

With.

Speaker A:

With.

Speaker A:

With.

Speaker A:

With that clickbait and that fake.

Speaker A:

But if it ain't that, you feel me?

Speaker A:

If it ain't that, if it's genuine, you feel me, then I'm all for it.

Speaker B:

That's what I'm for.

Speaker B:

That's what I mess with.

Speaker B:

Excuse me.

Speaker B:

Because I just was talking to Richie Rich, shout out to Richie Rich about the fabrication that's just going viral on social media.

Speaker B:

How do you deal with that?

Speaker B:

Because I'm so over it.

Speaker B:

To where I don't even.

Speaker B:

I'm over social media.

Speaker B:

I really am because a lot of the people that I see on there, they not what they is in person.

Speaker B:

You are the real deal.

Speaker B:

He funny as ever.

Speaker B:

Like I think you should have been a rapping.

Speaker B:

Is you sure.

Speaker B:

Cause funny.

Speaker B:

You're hilarious.

Speaker B:

You know that, right?

Speaker A:

I try.

Speaker B:

Do you?

Speaker B:

Do you do huh.

Speaker B:

I think it's the face for me.

Speaker B:

You are so funny.

Speaker A:

No but I went back to school to write films so like you be like you dibble and dabble from drama to comedy to.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

So I'm saying it's any real got all them trace in his personality.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

No, no.

Speaker A:

Real is just one thing.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

That.

Speaker A:

That's a robot.

Speaker B:

It is.

Speaker A:

There's a very difference.

Speaker A:

You got real and you got robots.

Speaker A:

So you feel me?

Speaker A:

I'm a. I'm a real one.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you is.

Speaker B:

I ain't going to hold you.

Speaker B:

G Stack actually was here too and shout out to G Stack cuz he like literally this is why I've been after you.

Speaker B:

Everybody mentions you.

Speaker A:

He go to school with me but I made him go back.

Speaker A:

Well him.

Speaker A:

But encouraged.

Speaker A:

Encouraged him.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

To go back to G Stack is in film school too.

Speaker A:

I know with me.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

We have classes together sometimes and all the.

Speaker A:

But I love that I told him like blood, they're not going to respect you if you just pop out and say I got a movie.

Speaker A:

We got to go back and get the credentials you have.

Speaker B:

Amen.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

We got to go back and get the credentials.

Speaker B:

I love that question.

Speaker B:

Are you single?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

See this is a real.

Speaker A:

I'm too, I'm too flattered.

Speaker A:

I'm too flying too rich to be single.

Speaker A:

But do you know flying rich are never single, but they always come on.

Speaker B:

Here knowing they eat, they ain't and they say they is flying rich or nervous.

Speaker A:

I'm taking.

Speaker B:

Oh, if.

Speaker A:

If you ain't taking, you ain't that dope.

Speaker B:

Wait, I ain't taking.

Speaker B:

Yeah, well wait a minute.

Speaker A:

Niggas probably ain't trying to take you.

Speaker A:

They already know.

Speaker A:

They already know you about your money.

Speaker A:

So I promise you niggas like I.

Speaker A:

If I.

Speaker B:

She ain't even.

Speaker A:

She don't even want to get wifed.

Speaker B:

I want to fall on the floor.

Speaker A:

Like she don't even want to get wifed.

Speaker B:

You should see my cousin.

Speaker A:

I mean.

Speaker B:

Like why you got like they can the camera go that way like.

Speaker A:

No, I'm just saying like that's true but like when they say a wife is a wife before a wife oh.

Speaker B:

My God, my stomach hurt, bro.

Speaker B:

Like nobody's ever came on this show.

Speaker A:

He's prepared when you set him down.

Speaker B:

I tried.

Speaker B:

But it is true though.

Speaker B:

Like, definitely used to be a hoe, and I think men are intimidated of that.

Speaker B:

But to me, a real one will respect that because if anything, you want somebody that's been there and done that.

Speaker B:

And just let me clear this up for y' all that think, cuz cousin shout out to Capone over there.

Speaker B:

They over there in tears, cuz I want to holler.

Speaker B:

Let me take these glasses off.

Speaker B:

That was probably the funny.

Speaker B:

I. I'm.

Speaker B:

I'm beyond tickle and I have to air all of this.

Speaker B:

Listen, I think sometimes before I was in the game in the hole, I kind of start off pimping cuz I was shout out, cuz I'mma tell the world.

Speaker B:

He did try to steal my first prostitute.

Speaker B:

Capone did.

Speaker A:

And he, he definitely the name Al Capone.

Speaker B:

He.

Speaker B:

But he failed tremendously.

Speaker B:

He failed.

Speaker A:

The name, the name.

Speaker A:

The name tells you what he's about.

Speaker B:

But he failed tremendously.

Speaker B:

But he tried, but he failed.

Speaker B:

But I think the perception on prostitution is just.

Speaker B:

It's not real because they think that.

Speaker B:

I think a lot of people think that every hoe is screwing or sucking and doing it.

Speaker B:

There's levels to this.

Speaker B:

It's unfortunate.

Speaker B:

I wasn't in the game too long because when you know they will wake up, they're literally sleeping on their lawn.

Speaker B:

Cause I didn't took everything.

Speaker B:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So there's different levels to prostitution.

Speaker A:

Cut that out.

Speaker A:

No, that's robbery.

Speaker A:

She just, she just admitted to robbery.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

Well, I already went to jail during my time.

Speaker A:

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker A:

Listen, the statue of limitations is up.

Speaker A:

We fine.

Speaker A:

Definitely we fine.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

But no, this is facts.

Speaker B:

I think that a lot of people think that's what hoes or prostitutes are just like.

Speaker B:

I think they assume with strippers that they're not sucking and pulling tricks in the back.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you are.

Speaker B:

Because if a man going to offer you five bands, you can't tell me you're not going to take that.

Speaker B:

If he wants you to give him.

Speaker A:

A blow job, people don't understand that that's just another job for money.

Speaker B:

It is.

Speaker A:

Listen to the other bitch about hoes.

Speaker A:

You just don't have enough heart to go get the fast money.

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker A:

That's all it is.

Speaker A:

It's just fast money.

Speaker A:

It's fast money.

Speaker A:

They get to money faster.

Speaker A:

Some keep going because they like the Fast money.

Speaker A:

Some take it and invest it.

Speaker A:

But it's like, it's like to me, it's like if you serious about it, it's like a two year college plan instead of before.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

I finna go get this fast money me.

Speaker A:

So, so look, this, this is my, this is my, this is, this is my assessment.

Speaker A:

Me and this girl, we, me and this, me and this girl are both stripping to make money.

Speaker A:

But this bitch work at McDonald's on the side.

Speaker A:

So she only could strip for five days because she don't want nobody know she's stripping.

Speaker A:

I'm stripping seven days a week, period.

Speaker A:

I graduate, stop stripping.

Speaker A:

I graduated as a lawyer, start my own law firm off the gate.

Speaker A:

Don't got to go work for nobody.

Speaker A:

I start my own practice off the gate because I've been stripping for seven years saving my mother fucking money.

Speaker A:

And this and graduated.

Speaker A:

And this, this is an intern hoping to be a partner in 10 years.

Speaker A:

No, that's the reality of this.

Speaker A:

So you gotta think versus thinking, bro.

Speaker A:

A lot of people don't think, okay, you tickle me.

Speaker B:

But like.

Speaker A:

No, I'm just saying bro, like, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like the college that, that just strips all day and does her homework and gets her degree can start her practice from the gate.

Speaker B:

That's facts.

Speaker A:

The that's stripping on the side and scared to let her family know she's stripping.

Speaker A:

And, and, and, and you feel me?

Speaker A:

Why are you scared to let some people know what you're doing when they not helping you?

Speaker B:

And that's why I wrote this book From a ho to a CEO.

Speaker B:

Facts.

Speaker B:

A lot of people won't admit that they were in the streets a lot.

Speaker A:

You should not give a about nobody opinion.

Speaker A:

That's not trying to help you.

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker B:

I like that because that's a factual statement.

Speaker B:

And this is the funny thing is people care about people's opinion.

Speaker B:

That ain't even like that's helping them people or not.

Speaker A:

People will kill you with their opinion and you can't even call them and ask for a dollar.

Speaker B:

Yeah, what do you, what's your advice to those people?

Speaker A:

Worry about you and yours.

Speaker A:

Them people ain't the people that you work.

Speaker A:

The opinions that you worrying about demand, they're not.

Speaker A:

Your people worry about you and your people feel me?

Speaker B:

That's facts.

Speaker B:

Well, you know me, I do a lot.

Speaker B:

As far as with the foster youth.

Speaker B:

I don't know if cousin told you, but I save or House over 50 foster youth and I got a non profit where I do Transitional housing.

Speaker B:

And they know you, you know, they know styling, they know your songs.

Speaker B:

I think I seen the clip the other day with Mike Epps.

Speaker B:

He was in the car, he was slapping that.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, Shout out to Mike, man.

Speaker B:

Oh, that's my song.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So what would you tell my youth that want to get in the industry?

Speaker B:

Like, because you've transitioned, you've done the music, you've done this, you wrote for people, you've done a lot.

Speaker B:

Now you're doing movies and writing direct.

Speaker B:

And hopefully soon.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker A:

I just directed my first film also too.

Speaker B:

Why couldn't be the star hoe in it?

Speaker A:

Because it's not about hoeing.

Speaker B:

What can your next one be?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

Why?

Speaker A:

Because I don't want to glorify that.

Speaker A:

That's your job.

Speaker B:

No, it's not glorifying.

Speaker B:

Because the whole became a CEO and.

Speaker A:

Built a multi million dollar company.

Speaker B:

That is a document.

Speaker A:

If you want me to write your.

Speaker A:

If you want me to turn your book into a script.

Speaker A:

Okay, that's fine.

Speaker A:

I can do that.

Speaker B:

I do.

Speaker B:

I'm serious.

Speaker B:

Let's talk after that.

Speaker A:

I'm serious.

Speaker A:

Sure.

Speaker B:

I just was talking to Percy, so.

Speaker A:

How many pages is your book?

Speaker B:

Almost 200.

Speaker A:

All right, so we have to get it down to 120.

Speaker B:

I could do that.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker B:

I'm serious.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Enough about me.

Speaker B:

But I. I really want to do that, though.

Speaker B:

Like, it's a real story.

Speaker A:

There's nothing to me.

Speaker A:

And I'll.

Speaker A:

I'll get you a script in like three weeks.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

I'm excited.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Sorry, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

I just had to get.

Speaker A:

Get them while I could.

Speaker B:

I can't get everything while I could.

Speaker B:

No, but I want to get a little bit, like I said, more personal.

Speaker B:

What would you tell these kids that want to get in the industry like you?

Speaker B:

Cuz you're doing a lot.

Speaker B:

Stone, you got a name like you.

Speaker B:

You out here.

Speaker A:

Don't, don't, don't never take advice from somebody that don't want to do what you want to do.

Speaker A:

Like you.

Speaker A:

You.

Speaker A:

You'll ask a mechanic, should I do this?

Speaker A:

Why are you asking him when he works on cars?

Speaker A:

Feel me?

Speaker A:

Why are you asking a mechanic what you should do in the music business when this ain't never been in a booth, ain't never made a beat, or I never wrote a song.

Speaker B:

I like that.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

You'll go ask your mom.

Speaker A:

Mom, should I do this?

Speaker A:

No disrespect to mothers, but you.

Speaker A:

You've been.

Speaker A:

You've been a worker all your life, you ain't never been a boss.

Speaker A:

No, I'm just saying most of our moms just went to work and came home and took care.

Speaker A:

They've never been in charge of nothing.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

So you got to figure out what you want to do and ask the people that do what, what you do for advice.

Speaker A:

How you gonna ask a broke what you supposed to do with a million dollar idea?

Speaker A:

No, you got a million dollar idea, but you asking a on welfare, should you execute it?

Speaker A:

No, I'm just saying you got a million dollar idea, you asking on welfare.

Speaker A:

They can't even fathom a million dollar idea because they stuck.

Speaker A:

They so stuck on the next welfare check when it come in they mind can't get past the next 800 coming.

Speaker A:

When you thinking about 800 million?

Speaker B:

Oh, fat.

Speaker B:

What you think about them cutting that section eight?

Speaker B:

I agree.

Speaker B:

I think they should coordinately.

Speaker B:

I hate to say that, but I,.

Speaker A:

I think that that should be a stepping stone.

Speaker A:

I think that if.

Speaker A:

Because some people just be up and it ain't their fault, I take that.

Speaker A:

But that shit should be a stepping stone.

Speaker A:

Look, you got five or years or whatever to get your shit together.

Speaker A:

But nobody should just be winging it forever.

Speaker B:

You feel enabler.

Speaker A:

I'm just saying nobody should just be getting by forever.

Speaker A:

You got to get to a point where you live in, feel me?

Speaker B:

I like that because a lot of people was giving the people that was on section 8 shout out to the section 8, the livers and stuff.

Speaker B:

But I think I agree with you.

Speaker B:

Like they should just like for this, if you disabled, you know.

Speaker A:

Look, look, look, you have a.

Speaker A:

There's not.

Speaker A:

Listen, there's nothing wrong with helping somebody.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

But needing help all your fucking life is a personal problem.

Speaker B:

Oh,.

Speaker A:

Everybody need help.

Speaker A:

But the motherfucker that need help forever ain't getting help from me.

Speaker A:

I'm just saying.

Speaker A:

No, because you do.

Speaker A:

You, you help a motherfucker and then you be like, when is it going to stop?

Speaker A:

And they like, it's never gonna stop because I'm.

Speaker A:

And I need you.

Speaker A:

All right, well, if you didn't go to the school, they got schools for people like that and they got free money.

Speaker A:

They got free money ssi.

Speaker A:

Like they have benefits and programs for people to give you free money.

Speaker B:

They did.

Speaker A:

So if you wanted them people go get your free money.

Speaker A:

Instead of trying to get another person to take care of you, especially somebody that work hard, your government will give you free money.

Speaker A:

So stop trying to leech off Your friends, when the government will give you a check if you just so up and you can't do it.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

But no, they want your money that.

Speaker B:

You worked hard for.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I absolutely agree with that.

Speaker B:

Do you think a lot of people like that aren't genuine, come to you like that because they know that you're doing your thing?

Speaker A:

No, nobody comes to me no more like that because.

Speaker A:

Because I tell them the truth.

Speaker A:

I just tell them the truth.

Speaker A:

Like I. I will tell a person.

Speaker A:

How many songs have you did?

Speaker A:

How many videos have you did this month?

Speaker A:

How many songs have you wrote?

Speaker A:

And if it don't add up to what I see, people like, there's a.

Speaker A:

There's an average of shit you're supposed to do a month that makes you successful.

Speaker A:

If I ask artists and they're not doing that, I'd be like, don't quit your day job because this ain't gonna work for you.

Speaker A:

No, no, for real.

Speaker A:

Like, like.

Speaker B:

No, that is very true.

Speaker A:

No, like, listen, everybody got their niche, blood.

Speaker A:

This probably ain't your niche.

Speaker A:

You just gotta find your niche.

Speaker A:

Do you know why want to be rappers, blood?

Speaker B:

Please tell me.

Speaker A:

Because everybody.

Speaker A:

No, listen, Everybody wants to have.

Speaker A:

Everybody wants to be able to get without without Holland at the.

Speaker B:

Without put in the work.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Rappers.

Speaker A:

Rappers get free.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

They do the look at you and say, I love you.

Speaker A:

Let's.

Speaker A:

That's what niggas want.

Speaker A:

That's what they want.

Speaker A:

I know a thousand niggas with a ton of money that want to be rappers because they don't get the free pussy.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

It's all about free putting.

Speaker A:

And I ain't even saying free pussy.

Speaker A:

I'm just saying then.

Speaker A:

No, no, I know not.

Speaker A:

I didn't mean free pussy.

Speaker A:

It is.

Speaker A:

Don't look.

Speaker A:

So listen, if a rapper is standing next to a millionaire and the walk up and.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And she wants a picture with the rapper, the millionaire gonna say, what are you doing to get them to do that?

Speaker A:

The mirror, he gonna say, I rap.

Speaker A:

And then the millionaire is gonna want to rap because even though you have all that money, you're not famous.

Speaker A:

They want to be famous.

Speaker A:

They want to be sex symbols.

Speaker A:

They want.

Speaker A:

They want to be looked at as.

Speaker A:

They want a muff.

Speaker A:

They want somebody to look at them and say, I want to you without them saying a word.

Speaker A:

And money don't do that.

Speaker B:

It does not.

Speaker A:

Fame does that.

Speaker A:

They want to be famous.

Speaker A:

They don't care about.

Speaker A:

They don't care about having money.

Speaker A:

I know a thousand with a ton of money.

Speaker A:

That still want to be rappers because they don't get the.

Speaker A:

That the rappers get.

Speaker B:

Oh my God, that was so well said and it's so true.

Speaker B:

And it's vice versa for the win.

Speaker B:

It's the same for the women.

Speaker B:

I feel like women, they will do.

Speaker A:

Whatever to get the nigga.

Speaker B:

They want to get the rich one.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker B:

And it's really sad.

Speaker B:

Like it's.

Speaker B:

I see a lot of it even on the social media with the girls, they showing they body.

Speaker B:

In my mind, you talking to, you know, like, you're not getting compensated for that service.

Speaker B:

Meaning showing your body and your butt.

Speaker B:

They all got the same pose.

Speaker B:

You know the pose I'm talking about?

Speaker B:

It's the pose.

Speaker B:

And look back, you're not getting compensated for that.

Speaker B:

So you're devaluing who you are.

Speaker B:

Like no one takes that serious.

Speaker B:

Now don't get it wrong, there are some men that are drooling over that.

Speaker B:

But I think the real ones, like even you, you're not single.

Speaker B:

You got a woman you've probably been with forever or whatnot.

Speaker B:

And you, like you said, you rich.

Speaker B:

You got this.

Speaker A:

She's probably solid.

Speaker B:

She ain't on.

Speaker B:

I'm sure she ain't on the gram doing all that type of stuff.

Speaker A:

Not at all.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

So it's the ones I feel like that you know, your worth is what it sounds like because you would not date a woman on that caliber, right?

Speaker A:

What you mean?

Speaker A:

So like, like that's got that butt all on social media.

Speaker B:

But most a lot of men do though that are rappers and rich.

Speaker B:

They like that.

Speaker A:

So what them girls got to understand is they just that.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

They don't wife that correct.

Speaker A:

Ain't nobody taking that bitch home to mama.

Speaker A:

I might take you to the Bahamas, but I ain't taking you home to mama.

Speaker A:

No, like, you feel me?

Speaker B:

Like that's fact.

Speaker A:

No, everybody fits.

Speaker A:

Fits their purpose.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Like you cool, but when I'm ready to settle down and get married and have a family, you're not going to be the.

Speaker A:

With your fake lips and your fake ass and your filtered tick tock pictures.

Speaker A:

I'm just saying.

Speaker A:

No, like, like, like, like, like it's cool to.

Speaker A:

To.

Speaker A:

But when I get serious, that's not like it's serious.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

That's not who I'm picking.

Speaker B:

I agree.

Speaker A:

You gotta, you gotta know, you listen, you gotta know where you are, where you at in life.

Speaker A:

Even the.

Speaker A:

She gotta know I'm just having fun when I ready to settle down.

Speaker A:

I gotta stop shooting up my lips and get serious now.

Speaker A:

I'm just saying.

Speaker A:

Stop shooting up my lid.

Speaker B:

Some men like that though.

Speaker B:

Some men are wife in that which is.

Speaker B:

It blows me away, I think.

Speaker A:

Who like that.

Speaker A:

Who never got no and insecure.

Speaker A:

If you.

Speaker A:

If you.

Speaker A:

If you being all your life.

Speaker A:

You ain't one of them who lusts over because you don't lust over because it's not new to you.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

It's not.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

You've been.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

That ain't.

Speaker A:

It's not.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Like so the nick.

Speaker A:

So that's so them who do all that and do all that.

Speaker A:

They know that the.

Speaker A:

That they catching ain't never had like them or never had bitches, period.

Speaker A:

Because a.

Speaker A:

That's used to having women ain't falling.

Speaker B:

For that or secure within their own or.

Speaker A:

Or just.

Speaker A:

Or just.

Speaker A:

Or just secure period.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Like, let's talk about family.

Speaker B:

So you got kids?

Speaker B:

You show me your son s kid.

Speaker B:

See them rapping your song.

Speaker B:

How many kids you got?

Speaker A:

Two.

Speaker B:

Okay, what's the oldest?

Speaker A:

12, Seven anymore?

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

Yeah, me too.

Speaker B:

I was one and done.

Speaker B:

Don't want no more.

Speaker B:

Why you don't want no more?

Speaker B:

You still young.

Speaker B:

I think I'm younger than you.

Speaker B:

We the same age, but I'm younger than you.

Speaker A:

But about a few years.

Speaker A:

A few.

Speaker A:

Like two.

Speaker B:

I'm actually 43 too.

Speaker A:

Oh yeah.

Speaker A:

So we the same age.

Speaker A:

Yeah, so.

Speaker A:

No, I just.

Speaker A:

I don't want to be 60.

Speaker A:

I don't want to be 60 with a teenager.

Speaker A:

Like you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, I want to be done.

Speaker B:

Yay.

Speaker A:

I ain't never been done.

Speaker A:

I don't know what it feel like to be done.

Speaker A:

Like, let me be done.

Speaker A:

Ask me do I want some more kids when I get done.

Speaker B:

I like that.

Speaker A:

Because I ain't been done first, you feel me?

Speaker A:

I might get done and get lonely.

Speaker A:

I'm still gonna look the same.

Speaker A:

Me and my girl might it all off.

Speaker A:

I might meet a young who want a baby.

Speaker A:

No, I'm just saying me and her might break up.

Speaker A:

I might meet a young bitch who want a baby.

Speaker A:

All my kids grown.

Speaker A:

Everybody out the house.

Speaker A:

Still gonna be young looking young looking beautiful as fuck.

Speaker B:

So she look young.

Speaker A:

She might want a baby if I.

Speaker A:

If you feel me.

Speaker B:

But you don't want to be 60 and have no kids.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

Cause my girl now is older than me, so she's.

Speaker A:

We gonna be 60 and 62, so we don't want no more kids.

Speaker A:

But, you know, I mean, if I'm 16.

Speaker A:

If we break up and I'm 16, looking 40, which I think you.

Speaker A:

And then my girlfriend 30, and she want a baby.

Speaker A:

Robert De Niro just had a baby, blood.

Speaker A:

Do you know why?

Speaker B:

Nuh.

Speaker A:

Do you know why?

Speaker A:

Cause the bitch was 28.

Speaker B:

Nuh.

Speaker A:

I swear to God.

Speaker B:

Ain't he like 80?

Speaker A:

Yeah, but she wanted a baby.

Speaker B:

Everything still.

Speaker A:

We never stop.

Speaker A:

Y' all just have menopause.

Speaker A:

We shoot this shit out forever.

Speaker A:

You didn't know that?

Speaker B:

Yo, that's a disgrace.

Speaker B:

I don't pay attention to them like that.

Speaker A:

That's a disgrace.

Speaker A:

I love her.

Speaker A:

She said, no, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

Y' all stopped working.

Speaker A:

Can have babies today.

Speaker A:

Die.

Speaker B:

That is a disgrace.

Speaker A:

That just had a baby about 28 year old.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

I gotta go Google that.

Speaker B:

I.

Speaker B:

You did what?

Speaker A:

You didn't know that?

Speaker A:

Well, nobody knows that because.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, Robert De Niro just had.

Speaker A:

So they had two babies, so she probably 30 now, but they had their first one at 28.

Speaker B:

Do you think that was selfish?

Speaker A:

No, I think he's rich as he made.

Speaker A:

He.

Speaker A:

He gonna die and he gonna leave all this to the babies.

Speaker A:

He's rich as he met a young.

Speaker A:

He want to date her.

Speaker A:

He's the 80.

Speaker A:

She like, if I' ma with you, I need kids.

Speaker A:

He like a deal.

Speaker A:

I'm rich, straight up.

Speaker A:

What you mean?

Speaker A:

He like.

Speaker A:

She like, if your old ass want to me, I need a baby.

Speaker A:

Cause you're rich.

Speaker A:

And that said do it.

Speaker A:

Cause I'm.

Speaker A:

Cause I ain't gonna make it to be a honey.

Speaker B:

I didn't even know what.

Speaker A:

I only got about 18 more years.

Speaker B:

Y' all work down there.

Speaker B:

Don't you need certain.

Speaker B:

Y' all need certain things, too, but obviously not.

Speaker B:

But he rich, though.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but I would think y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker B:

It don't.

Speaker B:

How even did the, you know, even get up the mountains?

Speaker A:

That also.

Speaker A:

That erectile dysfunction only happens when you up your body.

Speaker A:

That say, he ain't took a drink in 60 years.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker B:

I did not know that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, he don't drink, he don't smoke.

Speaker A:

He don't do nothing.

Speaker A:

That body is fine.

Speaker B:

I thought it was similar to our menopause.

Speaker B:

Like, that happens because of age.

Speaker B:

I thought, no, no.

Speaker A:

You know why.

Speaker A:

Do you know why it happens to.

Speaker A:

To women?

Speaker A:

Because y' all get to a certain age where y' all just check out.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, when a woman get 40, she can't go on the battlefield and fight niggas.

Speaker A:

Got to, got, got, got to be the dad forever.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

You gotta be the king.

Speaker A:

For if you the king of your neigh, you gotta be king forever.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

That's why God never made us not stop.

Speaker A:

Because even the king, even the 80 year old king on his deathbed in England need an heir.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

He still needed air.

Speaker B:

I'm sitting here 80, they gonna go.

Speaker A:

Get the young bitch, say, hey, this don't got no kids.

Speaker A:

We need a son or they gonna take our kingdom.

Speaker B:

I'm sitting here baffled.

Speaker B:

I just, I can't believe it.

Speaker B:

I thought y' all had issues.

Speaker A:

Are the most important thing in the world if you don't have no air, you're absolutely.

Speaker A:

You can make a thousand, you can make all the money in the world, but if you don't got no, if you got a daughter, she gonna marry somebody.

Speaker A:

And then that nigga is gonna take all her shit.

Speaker A:

You can give your daughter your whole estate, and then she's gonna marry another man and change her last name.

Speaker A:

And then all his shit is gonna go to.

Speaker A:

And all the shit that you gave to her is gonna go to him and his family.

Speaker A:

If you don't have a boy.

Speaker A:

Boy, that's.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker A:

No, for real.

Speaker B:

That's funny you say that because I put all my stuff in the trust.

Speaker B:

Because I was just like I told my daughter, you listen, because she.

Speaker B:

I think she go both ways.

Speaker B:

You're not gonna be giving my stuff to nobody.

Speaker A:

Don't bust her daughter out like that.

Speaker A:

She out of why you bust?

Speaker A:

Why you bust.

Speaker B:

You is not gonna be giving her stuff.

Speaker A:

This the realest podcast I ever been on.

Speaker A:

She said you ain't gonna be cring much.

Speaker A:

You was a hoe.

Speaker B:

I said, we got to air that.

Speaker B:

You gonna make me go viral for that one.

Speaker B:

I love you for that.

Speaker A:

Listen, tell her she ain't carpet munching on your dollar.

Speaker B:

Not on my dollar.

Speaker B:

It's not going to happen.

Speaker A:

No, for real, we can't.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

I'm so serious.

Speaker B:

Not on mine.

Speaker B:

You can Wee Wee's one, but not the carpets ones.

Speaker B:

We.

Speaker B:

I, that's like.

Speaker B:

I feel like I'm paying a fee.

Speaker A:

Like I'm a female.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So it actually can go both ways.

Speaker B:

If you think about can go both ways.

Speaker A:

And you never paid at all.

Speaker A:

You was the one that got paid, correct?

Speaker A:

You don't even understand nothing about pain.

Speaker B:

It doesn't.

Speaker A:

It don't.

Speaker A:

It don't register.

Speaker B:

All my bills is on auto pay too.

Speaker B:

So if I did Pay.

Speaker B:

It was an automatic payment.

Speaker B:

That way at the end, when I do look, I'm all.

Speaker B:

I'm always devastated and I.

Speaker B:

Sometimes people look around but.

Speaker B:

And I'm always devastated, but yeah, I don't pay.

Speaker B:

Cuz you know that.

Speaker B:

You know that.

Speaker B:

Look at his face.

Speaker B:

Blood.

Speaker B:

Oh no.

Speaker B:

But st.

Speaker B:

So what's next?

Speaker B:

What.

Speaker B:

What we got next coming up?

Speaker B:

I know your movie coming.

Speaker B:

We need some slaps, some hitters.

Speaker A:

No, because she's looking in here because she walked past and she said, oh shit, that's styling.

Speaker A:

She did this bust a U turn and went and came back like to make sure.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

But I just love writing.

Speaker A:

I love being creative.

Speaker A:

Feel me?

Speaker A:

Like that's, that's, that's where my passion is at.

Speaker A:

So I, I just went back to school to write film.

Speaker A:

I'm saying I'm in the Sundance collab classes to write film.

Speaker A:

Applied for the Sundance Institute.

Speaker A:

So I'm saying I just been doing that.

Speaker A:

You know, the music ain't never going nowhere.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Me and the Mechanics has.

Speaker A:

Has a new album coming out called Financial Freedom.

Speaker B:

I like.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Cause you got, you got, you got.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

You got to teach how to get some you money.

Speaker A:

No, for real.

Speaker B:

No, for real.

Speaker A:

Yeah, like I like that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

No, because people will try to hold money over.

Speaker A:

Over your head and you got to make you enough to say you.

Speaker B:

That's even jobs, period.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And you've been an entrepreneur all your life, huh?

Speaker B:

Did you ever work at 9 to 5?

Speaker A:

I worked at Togos.

Speaker B:

You so cute.

Speaker A:

No, 14.

Speaker A:

My.

Speaker A:

My Al Bundy from.

Speaker A:

His name wasn't Al Bundy, but we called him Al Bundy.

Speaker A:

Cause his name was Al.

Speaker A:

His name was Al Bunny.

Speaker A:

My Al Bundy from the hood from Cypress Village was.

Speaker A:

When I was on probation, he was the manager at Togos and he gave me a job so I didn't have to go in the house and do curfew at 6 o'.

Speaker B:

Clock.

Speaker A:

So he gave me a job at Togo.

Speaker A:

So I go to work and then.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

I'm telling my probation officer I got a job.

Speaker B:

He's so funny.

Speaker A:

But no, I'm dead serious.

Speaker B:

But you funny.

Speaker B:

Cause you don't try to be.

Speaker B:

I don't know if it's your facial expressions or what.

Speaker A:

No, like.

Speaker B:

But you so funny to me.

Speaker A:

You took.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

So that was how I got out of my curfew on probation with the Togo job.

Speaker A:

So then.

Speaker A:

So that it was.

Speaker A:

It was Al Bunny.

Speaker A:

And then he was a assistant manager.

Speaker A:

So he could hire and.

Speaker A:

But he had another big boss over him.

Speaker A:

It was a lady.

Speaker A:

I used to be late a lot.

Speaker A:

No, because I didn't.

Speaker A:

Guys.

Speaker A:

I live way in East Oakland.

Speaker A:

It was the Togos in Emeryville.

Speaker A:

I lived on 72nd in Lacey.

Speaker A:

Got you across street from East.

Speaker A:

My mall.

Speaker A:

So I used to be catching the bus all the way to fucking Emeryville, and I used to be late.

Speaker A:

So I showed up one day, and then she was like, you always late.

Speaker A:

If you come again, nigga, you're fired.

Speaker A:

Like, if you come late again, you fired.

Speaker A:

So I never went back because I knew I was going to be late again.

Speaker A:

No, I just never went back because I know.

Speaker B:

I was like, y' all fire me.

Speaker A:

I knew I was going.

Speaker A:

So she called me like, you didn't come to work today.

Speaker A:

I'm like, you told me don't come.

Speaker A:

If I was going to be late, I was going to be late.

Speaker A:

She like, oh, I didn't mean that.

Speaker A:

I'm like, like, like, like.

Speaker A:

I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm.

Speaker A:

I am very.

Speaker A:

10 Toes down.

Speaker A:

Stand on business.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you do.

Speaker A:

I'm thinking she's standing on business.

Speaker A:

She called me talking about.

Speaker A:

No, I didn't mean that.

Speaker A:

You listen.

Speaker A:

Why would you tell me that if you don't mean it?

Speaker A:

Because I'm not going to tell you nothing I don't mean.

Speaker A:

But anyway, I just went and picked up my last.

Speaker A:

I say, you know what?

Speaker A:

I'm good.

Speaker A:

I went and picked up my last check.

Speaker A:

It was like 500.

Speaker A:

I bought me a station wagon bucket from Barry Brothers.

Speaker A:

And then I bought me a half ounce of cocaine for 250.

Speaker A:

And then the rest was history.

Speaker A:

And the rest was history.

Speaker A:

I'm just telling.

Speaker A:

Hey,.

Speaker B:

I did.

Speaker B:

I did.

Speaker B:

I asked for it.

Speaker A:

I bought me a powder blue station wagon.

Speaker B:

Faux.

Speaker A:

Faux banger.

Speaker A:

Faux bangers.

Speaker A:

They only got like 80 miles per hour on the.

Speaker A:

Because it's a full cylinder.

Speaker A:

They hella slow.

Speaker A:

I bought me a full banger station wagon.

Speaker A:

My check was like, for 500.

Speaker A:

I bought me a full banger station wagon for 200 from Berry Brothers, bought me a half ounce of Coke for 250.

Speaker A:

And I had $50 left, and I went to Cypress Village, and the rest is history.

Speaker A:

I never worked again.

Speaker B:

How old was you?

Speaker A:

18.

Speaker B:

18.

Speaker B:

So you have one job.

Speaker B:

So you just been an entrepreneur.

Speaker B:

That's dope.

Speaker B:

What would you tell other entrepreneurs or people that want to get in the industry?

Speaker B:

Because I just became an entrepreneur about five years ago.

Speaker B:

Cause I worked for 20 years.

Speaker A:

Follow your mind.

Speaker B:

You Feel like take risks.

Speaker A:

So the people that's with you, they believed in you.

Speaker A:

Him, her.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

But think about it.

Speaker A:

How many people ran from you when you said, you want to do a podcast about how you used to be a hoe?

Speaker A:

Oh, you feel me?

Speaker A:

You mother.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't know parts of that you on your own, but them ain't your people.

Speaker A:

Your people is the.

Speaker A:

It's the people that's gonna stand by your side no matter what.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Everybody.

Speaker A:

Everybody have ups and highs and lows.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

The people that leave at the low, that's your lesson.

Speaker A:

To not let them come back around when you hide.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

I am a very smart person.

Speaker A:

I notice everything.

Speaker A:

Blood.

Speaker B:

What's your sign?

Speaker A:

Aquarius.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Yep.

Speaker B:

You guys are very intuitive, and I.

Speaker A:

Notice any and every.

Speaker A:

I know the small details.

Speaker A:

I notice any and everything.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

Like Tyler Perry in that.

Speaker A:

That movie.

Speaker A:

Why did I get married when he was.

Speaker A:

When he was talking to the bra?

Speaker A:

Like, I noticed you put perfume on.

Speaker A:

Now you're putting sexier draws on.

Speaker A:

Now you're smiling.

Speaker A:

You're laughing more.

Speaker A:

He noticed all that because the was cheating.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's the type of I am.

Speaker A:

I noticed everything.

Speaker A:

But with everybody, though.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

It don't.

Speaker A:

They don't got to be with a woman.

Speaker A:

It could be with my any.

Speaker A:

With anybody.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I just notice everything.

Speaker B:

Sometimes I feel like that's a curse, though.

Speaker B:

It's a discernment, though.

Speaker A:

Don't gravitate toward me when I'm lit.

Speaker A:

No, that's gonna make me treat you like a.

Speaker A:

On some real.

Speaker A:

If you love me, love me all the way through.

Speaker A:

Yeah, listen, that's facts.

Speaker A:

I don't give occasional love.

Speaker A:

So if you love me occasionally, stay.

Speaker A:

It'll stay the away from me.

Speaker A:

Straight up.

Speaker B:

Take me for how I am.

Speaker B:

Ain't no blacker.

Speaker B:

Ain't no black or white.

Speaker B:

It's just, you know, straight.

Speaker B:

No, it's straight black.

Speaker A:

But the thing is the fact what I don't understand about people play it off and act like you love A. Y' all really only do when it's popping.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Like don't even got no shame in.

Speaker B:

A game at all.

Speaker A:

A won't.

Speaker A:

You won't talk to A for a year and then call you when you drop a new album.

Speaker A:

Like Blood.

Speaker A:

I get on the remix because the song blasted like blood.

Speaker A:

I ain't talk to you in two years.

Speaker B:

I'm seeing it with this podcast.

Speaker B:

I've never seen nothing like it in my life.

Speaker A:

They calling you, like, can I get an interview?

Speaker A:

Like, when I told you I was gonna do a podcast, you brushed me off.

Speaker A:

You ain't.

Speaker A:

You ain't say, yeah, you get that going.

Speaker A:

Call me.

Speaker B:

I got you none of that.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

It's weird, sis.

Speaker A:

You finna do your podcast.

Speaker A:

Let me know when you get it going.

Speaker A:

I got you whatever you need.

Speaker A:

Don't talk like that.

Speaker A:

Hey, I seen what you got going on, bro.

Speaker A:

How can I be a part of it?

Speaker A:

You can't.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

Or.

Speaker B:

I'm proud of you, sis.

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

You got any openings?

Speaker B:

I ain't talked to you in 10 years.

Speaker B:

I. I didn't even forgot your name.

Speaker B:

I don't even went to high school with you.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm getting a lot of that.

Speaker A:

You gotta listen.

Speaker A:

You gotta know that those people don't have no dignity.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

They'll suck a dick for some money.

Speaker A:

Yeah, in broad daylight, in front of a whole crowd.

Speaker A:

No, for real.

Speaker A:

Like, you don't have no morals like, blood.

Speaker A:

People gotta have no, people don't have morals.

Speaker A:

Like, so.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

So, like, like, like.

Speaker A:

So the nigga pulled out some money, and you just turned into a fucking groupie.

Speaker A:

A male groupie.

Speaker A:

The nigga like, like.

Speaker B:

No, that's real.

Speaker A:

So look, I.

Speaker B:

He got on a big chain.

Speaker A:

I love Mr. Fab.

Speaker A:

That's my nigga.

Speaker A:

But no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker A:

Fab, that's my brother.

Speaker B:

Oh, okay.

Speaker A:

No, I was in his club.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

And that's, you know, that's the heart of Oakland.

Speaker B:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker A:

I'm like.

Speaker A:

I'm like, fab, blood.

Speaker A:

I can't come to Desi's no more.

Speaker A:

It's too many male group.

Speaker A:

Like, I can't enjoy myself.

Speaker A:

But I had to tell a.

Speaker A:

In Desi's, I am a boy.

Speaker A:

It's a thousand in here.

Speaker A:

Why are you so focused on talking to me all night?

Speaker A:

And it's a thousand girls in here.

Speaker A:

Why do you want to sit in a face in a ear and just talk.

Speaker B:

Like, not that I am a boy.

Speaker A:

No, you listen for.

Speaker A:

No, you listen for a minute, but 10 minutes go past 5, 30 minutes it went past this still in your ear like, blood.

Speaker A:

I'm a boy.

Speaker A:

You see all these women in here, bro?

Speaker A:

You don't like coochie?

Speaker A:

Like, you don't like coochie.

Speaker A:

My.

Speaker A:

You see all these women in here.

Speaker A:

It's a thousand in here.

Speaker A:

And you just want to sit in a ear his group.

Speaker B:

His male groupies, for sure.

Speaker B:

I call it ball washing.

Speaker B:

No, I call him I call them ball a groupie.

Speaker A:

A groupie would have walked away 10 minutes ago.

Speaker A:

This wanted to me in the ass.

Speaker A:

He was.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

No, seriously.

Speaker A:

No, for real.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Or if you got a group chain.

Speaker A:

Groupies don't even stay that long.

Speaker B:

They don't.

Speaker A:

Hoobies don't even stay that long.

Speaker A:

Like what the are you doing, bro?

Speaker B:

No, I. I see it all the time.

Speaker B:

I call it ball washing.

Speaker B:

I I call that ball.

Speaker A:

That's what I got to call it.

Speaker A:

Ball washing.

Speaker A:

Yeah, ball wash. Why are you ball washing me?

Speaker B:

Do it.

Speaker B:

Stop ball washing me.

Speaker B:

Washing my balls.

Speaker A:

I'm cool.

Speaker B:

I need you to wash my player.

Speaker A:

Royal penis clean your highness.

Speaker B:

That's what they wanted to say.

Speaker B:

I like that going though right there, player.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker B:

I like that one.

Speaker A:

Oh yes.

Speaker A:

A lot.

Speaker A:

They all back there.

Speaker B:

I. I want to give you something that's off subject.

Speaker A:

My bad.

Speaker A:

I got the.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I need but no anyway you, you, you.

Speaker B:

This is probably one of my favorite little.

Speaker B:

You probably one of my favorite guests.

Speaker B:

I ain't think I laugh this much ever.

Speaker B:

I think Phil mo came fm.

Speaker B:

You know that negro is hot for sure hilarious.

Speaker B:

He is so you know, feel most.

Speaker A:

Did he.

Speaker A:

Did he tell you about when he took 10 to LA and ain't not just 10 business and he said that was only my starting five.

Speaker A:

I came back with 10 more.

Speaker A:

No, he said no.

Speaker A:

He said that was my backup.

Speaker A:

I came back with my starting fire.

Speaker A:

Quit playing with me.

Speaker A:

He told you that story.

Speaker A:

I ain't tell you that one.

Speaker B:

He was trying to.

Speaker B:

He was trying to sell me solar.

Speaker A:

That's the one that say the first time he went to LA he took 10.

Speaker A:

He said him LA pimps knocked all his.

Speaker A:

He said.

Speaker A:

Then he said that was my test run.

Speaker A:

I came back with 20 more the next day and they and.

Speaker A:

And we wiped mother and we wiped that and we wiped and I came back with all they la.

Speaker A:

I took all the LA back to Frisco with me.

Speaker A:

Yeah I took the hoes that I just knocked yesterday and the other day the that with the big name the only had them for three, four days.

Speaker A:

They weren't my real I sent them business to LA to test them that say I said my real stable out there and they said my all my new business.

Speaker A:

I knocked like 10 of them.

Speaker A:

He only knew them like three, four days.

Speaker A:

I sent them to LA.

Speaker A:

They they.

Speaker A:

They took all them because they fresh fish hoes.

Speaker A:

You only had your pimp for four days.

Speaker A:

So my game ain't really instilled in your brain.

Speaker A:

Like that.

Speaker B:

Correct.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Correct.

Speaker A:

So he already knew them was.

Speaker A:

He just was testing la.

Speaker A:

He testing the.

Speaker A:

He knew the was getting knocked.

Speaker A:

He testing.

Speaker A:

He said, okay, you go to la, you got to send your real game.

Speaker A:

You got to send your.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you got to send your strong minded ten toes, cuz.

Speaker A:

Cuz they taking your ones that ain't all the way in.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That try to take him in Oakland.

Speaker A:

Too, cuz that said he sent his bottom.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And they came back with all the ladies.

Speaker A:

Shout out to Filmo.

Speaker B:

Definitely shout out to Filmo.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna be dropping his footage soon.

Speaker B:

Well, listen, I had a blast with you.

Speaker B:

Anything else you want to tell the people that's just make them laugh because you.

Speaker B:

I could sit here and laugh with you all dang all day.

Speaker B:

I'm so glad you came.

Speaker A:

Oh man.

Speaker B:

And we really gonna do my documentary Cypress the series.

Speaker B:

I need that a live wire story.

Speaker A:

It's a TV show based on me growing up in Cypress Village and how I started Livewire Records.

Speaker A:

That's in production right now.

Speaker A:

Shout out our game media company that I partner with to bring that story to life.

Speaker A:

And you know, a lot.

Speaker A:

A lot of more movies, a lot of more TV shows, a lot of more.

Speaker A:

But just stay tuned.

Speaker A:

Follow me at J Styling, Livewire, Tick tock, Facebook and Instagram.

Speaker A:

And thank you.

Speaker B:

No, it ain't over.

Speaker B:

Give y' all a little special situation.

Speaker B:

So it's right up under your seat.

Speaker B:

It's under your seat.

Speaker B:

I can't see y'.

Speaker B:

All look under your seat.

Speaker B:

Grab it, please.

Speaker B:

So cute.

Speaker B:

You funny and cute.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker B:

So you know.

Speaker B:

Of course you didn't call me cute 10 times.

Speaker A:

My girlfriend finna be like, no, she's cute too.

Speaker A:

She just called you cute one too many times.

Speaker B:

She's cute too.

Speaker B:

And next time she can come and get the Versace.

Speaker A:

Okay, I'm gonna get us to.

Speaker A:

To her.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I like it.

Speaker B:

I like.

Speaker B:

You got.

Speaker B:

Of course you should because listen, I'm.

Speaker A:

Coming naked ball swinging.

Speaker B:

Why I knew you for the same stupid.

Speaker A:

I just do it.

Speaker B:

He do this on purpose.

Speaker B:

I already figured him out.

Speaker A:

He funny.

Speaker B:

He been asleep cuz on the phone.

Speaker A:

It's just a whole on the phone.

Speaker A:

Now I'm gone and we out.

Speaker B:

We gonna leave it just like that.

Speaker B:

But thank you.

Speaker A:

That's why I make the big bucks.

Speaker A:

You see how fast I made that rap?

Speaker B:

Well, I listen, I love you for coming so much.

Speaker A:

I love you.

Speaker B:

We literally.

Speaker A:

I need my documentary and.

Speaker A:

Cause.

Speaker A:

Cause.

Speaker A:

Cause dad, I told me about it.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, I got you.

Speaker B:

No, we don't need that.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna put that.

Speaker A:

I'm.

Speaker A:

Put that into a script story, right?

Speaker A:

I'm gonna put that into a script form for you, and I'm gonna give it to you.

Speaker A:

And if you approve, then we can move forward.

Speaker B:

Let's do it.

Speaker B:

I'm excited.

Speaker B:

Shout out.

Speaker B:

Y' all heard what I'm.

Speaker B:

Can I tell the people?

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

My movie coming.

Speaker B:

So give me.

Speaker A:

Movie coming from hoe to CEO, period.

Speaker B:

Period.

Speaker B:

We out, y'.

Speaker B:

All.

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Education & Professional Background

Dr. Stance holds a Ph.D. in Psychology with a concentration in Trauma-Informed Care, providing a strong clinical and academic foundation for the work led across all programs and initiatives. This advanced training informs Dr. Stance’s approach to mental health advocacy, foster care reform, mentorship, and community-based services, ensuring practices are evidence-informed, ethically grounded, and responsive to the impacts of trauma.

Dr. Stance’s work is deeply informed by lived experience shaped by childhood trauma, providing a personal and empathetic understanding of the challenges faced by foster youth and system-impacted individuals. Having navigated early adversity, instability, and the long-term effects of trauma, Dr. Stance brings both professional expertise and personal insight to the development of programs that prioritize safety, trust, and empowerment. This lived experience strengthens Dr. Stance’s connection to foster youth and individuals in care, allowing for services that are not only clinically sound but also grounded in compassion, relatability, and authenticity. Rather than approaching trauma from theory alone, Dr. Stance integrates real-world understanding into mentorship, program design, and leadership—ensuring individuals feel seen, supported, and capable of growth beyond their circumstances.

Dr. Stance is a purpose-driven leader, author, and mental health advocate dedicated to transforming hustle into sustainable legacy. As the founder and CEO of the non-profit, BWIT Luxurious Fostering, Dr. Stance is redefining trauma-informed care for foster youth and adults through dignity, structure, and empowerment. Dr. Stance is the creator and host of the podcast Turning Hustle Into Legacy, where discipline, faith, mindset, and leadership intersect to build generational impact. An author of From a Hoe to C.E.O., Dr. Stance uses lived experience, mentorship, and mental health advocacy to help individuals move from survival to purpose.