Episode 12

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Published on:

2nd Feb 2026

Lil Eazy E: Family, Fame, and Poker

Lil Eazy E, the son of legendary rapper Eazy E, joins Dr. Stance for an engaging chat that dives deep into legacy, hustle, and the world of poker. We explore how growing up in the shadow of a music icon shaped his life, from the pressures of living up to his father's legacy to carving out his own path in the music industry. But hold onto your hats, because the conversation takes a fun twist as we shift gears to talk about poker—Lil Eazy E shares his passion for the game, recounting wild stories from the casino and the lessons he’s learned along the way. It's not just about the cards, though; we also dive into the serious side of life, including health scares that put things into perspective. With humor and authenticity, this episode captures the essence of turning life's challenges into opportunities and keeping the hustle alive. Whether you're a fan of hip-hop, poker, or just looking for some good vibes, this episode is a must-listen!

Transcript
Speaker A:

Foreign.

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

What's up, y'?

Speaker A:

All?

Speaker B:

I always start like that.

Speaker B:

They already know.

Speaker B:

That's just how I start.

Speaker B:

But thank y' all for tapping in with Dr. Stance on turning your hustle into a legacy.

Speaker B:

I am officially the most blessed woman in the world because I got a real legend.

Speaker B:

The son of a legend is legendary here.

Speaker B:

Okay, you like that one?

Speaker B:

I appreciate it, Mr. Little E. What's up, cousin?

Speaker A:

I'm good.

Speaker A:

I'm doing.

Speaker B:

We family.

Speaker B:

You know, I got to tell people.

Speaker B:

I go, we family.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker B:

That's what's up with you.

Speaker B:

How was your flight?

Speaker A:

It was a drive, actually.

Speaker A:

You drove?

Speaker A:

Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker A:

Cuz I would have been too late.

Speaker A:

That's when I asked you.

Speaker A:

I text you.

Speaker A:

I was like.

Speaker B:

Cuz I was so prompt, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

He came early, bought beautiful people.

Speaker B:

He's just beautiful.

Speaker B:

I just adore you, cuz.

Speaker B:

Thank you so much.

Speaker A:

I appreciate it.

Speaker B:

He blessing the platform.

Speaker B:

Know that.

Speaker A:

I appreciate it.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm f to get straight into it.

Speaker B:

So you a poker head?

Speaker B:

So I'm definitely ass in poker game.

Speaker A:

You play poker?

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

That's what I do.

Speaker B:

I am a queen.

Speaker B:

I've seen that.

Speaker B:

I said, oh, I can't wait to play this.

Speaker B:

I see you play poker.

Speaker B:

They said, you there every day.

Speaker A:

I used to be.

Speaker A:

Somebody got me out of that mode, But I used to used to go every day, so.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

I chilled, but I had dreamed of playing the world, you know, the World Series tournament and say, you know, just go ahead and throw 10,000 and just say, hey, okay, cool.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna give it a shot around.

Speaker A:

Did you try?

Speaker A:

I have.

Speaker A:

Not yet.

Speaker A:

So that's my thing, when I get the time and relaxation to actually go.

Speaker A:

Do you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I got the funds and means, but the time, because you actually.

Speaker A:

If I go far, I gotta be there for a while.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

And I tour, so I got kids that I actually just left for track meet just before I got on the road.

Speaker B:

I love that.

Speaker A:

Good father, good dad.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Gotta be, gotta be, gotta be.

Speaker B:

I seen that, though.

Speaker B:

I said, cousin gamble.

Speaker B:

You know, it's funny.

Speaker B:

I actually banned myself.

Speaker A:

Did you?

Speaker B:

From California.

Speaker B:

Cause I got real heavy into it.

Speaker B:

Everybody know me.

Speaker B:

I wasn't in no clubs.

Speaker B:

I'm in the poker room.

Speaker B:

Because in my mind, I'd rather go try to make money than spending at a club buying a bottle.

Speaker B:

So I'm at the casino every single day, too.

Speaker A:

Real talk.

Speaker B:

And people that don't gamble don't Know, it's a serious addiction.

Speaker A:

It very much is very dangerous.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

But I put in my concept like this.

Speaker A:

If I'm not on the road and I don't have a 9 to 5, like, people know.

Speaker A:

So it's either I'm filming or I'm touring.

Speaker A:

So now I have those block times.

Speaker A:

I'm like, hey, I'm a hustler.

Speaker A:

So I think like, hey, let me go play poker and make me $1,000 a day.

Speaker A:

So if I got 14 days off, that's 14,000 that I could sit here and accumulate and make.

Speaker A:

Now, some days, will it be that way?

Speaker A:

I might win five, I might win seven.

Speaker A:

But an old head that actually was in the casino in a poker.

Speaker A:

And we have a small room where I'm at, in.

Speaker A:

Out in the desert, and it's very secluded.

Speaker A:

And it's like.

Speaker A:

You kind of like.

Speaker A:

It's like a house game of nine or 10 tables because we all know each other.

Speaker A:

So I go in the morning, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I go pick up the kids.

Speaker A:

And then after I get them dinner, lay them down, I go play at night.

Speaker A:

And he said, e, you ever took account of what you put out and what you win?

Speaker A:

And he's like, try to do it.

Speaker A:

He's like, try to sit here and stay, and then you'll understand of what you did instead of free playing.

Speaker A:

Because when you free play, you know what I mean, you'll play loose, which is me.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't care.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Let me just call, call, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

My boys be mad that you call him with like, six fold.

Speaker A:

And then people like, why does he do six fold?

Speaker A:

Because his daddy made the famous song.

Speaker A:

And people like, why do you play two, three?

Speaker A:

Because my birthday is April 23rd, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And I'm a catch a motherfucker, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

It comes five, seven, eight, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I got six, four, five, seven, eight, flop out.

Speaker A:

They be like, they don't see it.

Speaker B:

They don't see it.

Speaker A:

And then I have some players that play with me so long, they'd be like, I know what E got, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

While he betting into it.

Speaker A:

Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Like, e, turnover.

Speaker A:

Six, four for him.

Speaker A:

I like, how did you know?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So when I start playing, I take an accountability.

Speaker A:

Accountability of it and accounting what I did out, I start playing good.

Speaker A:

Like, all right, cool.

Speaker A:

Well, if I lost, you know,:

Speaker A:

I look at it be like, all right, well, cool.

Speaker A:

I'm in the red, so get up and go home, eat.

Speaker A:

It's open tomorrow.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it don't close.

Speaker A:

They're going to be here tomorrow.

Speaker B:

So you got a limit?

Speaker A:

Yeah, I started doing that to myself and when I did it too, I started saying, Damn, I'm making $1,000 a day.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like yesterday I might have lost two, but today I might 115.

Speaker A:

I'm actually in the green for my two or three days that I won't.

Speaker A:

So, you know, now, you know, paying accumulative bills off of nothing, having fun.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

And tax free.

Speaker A:

And I'm not.

Speaker A:

Talk to me now.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And I'm not torn.

Speaker A:

So you have a.

Speaker A:

Most artists know you have a period to where you're just, you're just at home, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And I love it.

Speaker A:

You know, being with the kids, it's just like, hey, the water zone.

Speaker A:

That's how I used to call it, the water zone.

Speaker A:

Basically, the money you making, the money you got saved up is just turned on and it's a hole and it's just going.

Speaker A:

I like that you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker A:

So you have to sit here and put a stopper to it or, you know, make some more water.

Speaker A:

Make bring another whale with the longest.

Speaker B:

You set up in there.

Speaker B:

I think I'm two days.

Speaker A:

Oh my goodness.

Speaker A:

Oh my.

Speaker A:

See what you see?

Speaker A:

We used to, before the pandemic, our casino was 24 hours.

Speaker A:

Oh, it's not 24 hours ours.

Speaker A:

Nah, it's due to four in the morning now and we're politicking for them to do it back.

Speaker A:

So ever since:

Speaker A:

But when it was 24 hours, I will go in when they went to sleep and then they would normally leave, like knowing he leaving because why he got to go drop his kids off at school.

Speaker A:

So I'll leave at six or seven o'clock in the morning and then possibly if I'm not.

Speaker A:

If I'm up, I'm not going back.

Speaker A:

If I'm down, then I'm pissed off.

Speaker A:

And it's like, it's, you know, it's a nut game for man.

Speaker B:

You go back when you down.

Speaker A:

Yeah, see, I'm devastated.

Speaker A:

It's like I used to tell her, it's like, it's like, it's, it's a, it's a macho thing.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker A:

So she'd be like, why do you go through all that much?

Speaker A:

Because it's macho thing.

Speaker A:

It's too like.

Speaker A:

You finna call me.

Speaker A:

Are you, are you slow play me?

Speaker A:

And you took you, you.

Speaker A:

I mean you, you know, felt in me.

Speaker A:

Then you think I'm not gonna go to the house or the rubber band.

Speaker A:

Like man, come on, we don't do this.

Speaker B:

Love players like you know, man, like.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna do this live all that.

Speaker A:

But I'm gonna catch them though.

Speaker A:

So if you, if you slow roll me, then therefore I'm a sit in the.

Speaker A:

In a cut on you.

Speaker A:

And then like surprise.

Speaker A:

Like did you really just call me with two, $300 with two three or you know, I'm saying like, you know, are two seven.

Speaker A:

Yeah, my daughter's birthday.

Speaker A:

Two seven.

Speaker A:

I'm sorry, two twos flopped on, on the flop.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like I was definitely a good bluffer.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I might have used some sex appeal, some something.

Speaker A:

But you know, women can always do it.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

I try to teach, Yeah, I try to teach women to play all the time.

Speaker A:

I love, I know it a little bit.

Speaker A:

Learn it.

Speaker A:

Why?

Speaker B:

That is the.

Speaker B:

I. I made a lot of money playing poker.

Speaker B:

Like and I'm telling you, I would go.

Speaker B:

I was like you every day at least I'm like, at least that was my lim about a rack a day.

Speaker B:

If I lose 500, I'm out.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

But I'm always make sure I'm in the green, so.

Speaker B:

Or break even once.

Speaker B:

I break even now.

Speaker B:

Game on.

Speaker B:

I'm playing strict.

Speaker B:

I'm not calling everything.

Speaker B:

I'm being a little.

Speaker B:

I'm only playing my little pocket aces, my little pocket pair.

Speaker B:

You know what?

Speaker A:

I'm waiting for that all night.

Speaker A:

All night.

Speaker B:

Then you it coming.

Speaker B:

You still lose, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, like so it's just a.

Speaker B:

Again.

Speaker B:

I thought that was.

Speaker B:

It literally intrigued me.

Speaker B:

I was so excited to talk to you about poker.

Speaker B:

Cuz people don't, they don't know poker.

Speaker A:

Like a lot of people don't relax.

Speaker A:

So like people used to ask me, what's your habit?

Speaker A:

I mean your hobby poker.

Speaker A:

And I was like, yeah, playing poker, how do you like that?

Speaker A:

I said it's, it's, it's, it's competitive, makes you think.

Speaker A:

You use your mind, your brain and it's, you know, it's a relaxer to me, you know, it's my downtime strategic.

Speaker B:

Tool that you need to know to play that game.

Speaker B:

Anybody can't you just can't go in there and play.

Speaker B:

And I taught myself, actually.

Speaker A:

Is that right?

Speaker B:

I taught myself how to play.

Speaker B:

I just went in there.

Speaker B:

Cause I was playing blackjack when I started gambling at 17.

Speaker B:

I snuck in the casino at 17 with fake IDs, and I'm playing blackjack.

Speaker B:

I know all the games.

Speaker B:

Pie Gal.

Speaker B:

I know all of them.

Speaker A:

Baccarat, you do batch.

Speaker B:

I know all of them.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And that's when I knew.

Speaker B:

I said, ooh, okay.

Speaker B:

I probably would have been a millionaire if I wouldn't have been so heavy in the gambling.

Speaker B:

I got in deep.

Speaker A:

E. I talked to me.

Speaker A:

I trust me.

Speaker B:

I got deep as fuck.

Speaker B:

And I was like.

Speaker B:

I banned myself from California.

Speaker B:

But best to believe when I take a trip.

Speaker B:

Nah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm out of Cali.

Speaker B:

I'm for show gambling.

Speaker B:

Because I can't do it here.

Speaker B:

And I've been myself for life.

Speaker B:

I don't know if, you know, you can do that.

Speaker B:

You can bang yourself for a year or for life.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

At the casino, they do have it where I had a couple of friends go sign themselves up.

Speaker B:

I did.

Speaker A:

And they did it for, like, six months, three months.

Speaker A:

He's like, what is like.

Speaker A:

I did it to myself because they lose so much.

Speaker A:

You know the game Ultimate Hold Them?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So they did it.

Speaker B:

That's my other favorite.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So they did it off of ultimate hold.

Speaker A:

And that's what Nelly was playing.

Speaker A:

Playing.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Not O.

Speaker A:

Let me not.

Speaker A:

Let me shut up.

Speaker A:

Let me shut up.

Speaker A:

He didn't say that.

Speaker A:

So you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So ultimate hold' em is.

Speaker A:

Is it.

Speaker A:

It could get expensive because you're playing three spots.

Speaker A:

You know that?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

And then if.

Speaker B:

Playing every spot.

Speaker A:

I'm ridiculous.

Speaker A:

And then if you play before the flop, you gotta bet four or five times your money and you doing it.

Speaker A:

So you betting three, 4,000.

Speaker A:

Thousand.

Speaker A:

Thousand.

Speaker A:

That's 4,000.

Speaker A:

You don't hit nothing.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

You look at it, you like a 7, $8,000 swing.

Speaker B:

That goddamn bonus, though.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

If you hit it, you hit it.

Speaker B:

Crazy.

Speaker B:

I think I hit a royal straight flush before I hit 25,000 before.

Speaker B:

About 20 years ago.

Speaker A:

So what got me addicted is in Vegas, I hit a jackpot, see?

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

And I hit a $75,000 jackpot.

Speaker B:

See, I'm on the.

Speaker A:

And the crazy part about it, I did it, and I had no id.

Speaker B:

You was able to collect it, though, right?

Speaker A:

I was able to collect it 30 days later.

Speaker A:

I was a little nervous because the old lady that came in, I gave my Social Security card and they were like, oh, you did it.

Speaker A:

And then most of the people were like, that's that famous guy, Easy E son whooping and the other.

Speaker A:

So I'm like, oh, I'm good.

Speaker A:

And the dude who was running the poker room at the casino, he was running the poker floor.

Speaker A:

He was young and he like, man, I listen to your music.

Speaker A:

He knew it was me.

Speaker A:

It's me.

Speaker A:

In Vegas, if you hit only anything over $20,000, you gotta wait 10 hours.

Speaker B:

I didn't know that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I don't know if that's the rule now, but back when I did it, if you hit.

Speaker A:

If you have anything over $20,000 that you did on, you know, I mean, like poker, anything poker, anything slots, I believe they could pay you out there.

Speaker A:

Poker, you have to wait because why we hit a jackpot.

Speaker A:

So they got to check.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, count the cards.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

You got to do all of this.

Speaker A:

So by the time I came back on that shift, it was some old individuals and they were like, yeah, so, yeah, that's you.

Speaker A:

Where's your id?

Speaker A:

I'm like, ah.

Speaker A:

And so I asked the lady, I said, I don't got my id.

Speaker A:

How long would you.

Speaker A:

She's like, oh, you got like 30 days, man, if I go back to California and go for an id, it's gonna take me.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I was living lawless, I was young and playing in Vegas.

Speaker A:

Wootu want him to carve me so I can argue with them, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Stupid stuff when you're done.

Speaker A:

Young and dumb.

Speaker A:

Anyway, I went, got my, you know what I'm saying, Applied for my id and my grandmother called me.

Speaker A:

She was like, it's here.

Speaker A:

I'm like, what?

Speaker A:

I'm gone.

Speaker A:

My best friend said, I'm renting a car now we outta here.

Speaker A:

I'm like, come on, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Fucked off.

Speaker A:

Like at least about five to ten thousand dollars.

Speaker A:

You fucking.

Speaker A:

They took me in the back, went through the secret little way and all that.

Speaker B:

You play high roller and all kinds.

Speaker A:

They gave me like a little, little.

Speaker A:

A little chip.

Speaker A:

There was like, it's a jackpot chip.

Speaker A:

So he's like, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker A:

If you bring this, it's indefinitely.

Speaker A:

Whenever you get it, just come back.

Speaker A:

So I was sweating.

Speaker A:

I'm like, all right, cool.

Speaker A:

So I went and got it then.

Speaker A:

And it was cool when I did it because I played Nalian, you know this.

Speaker A:

So my most jackpots, they'll Split it with the tables that are playing Texas Hold'.

Speaker A:

Em.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

So I did it at 4 o' clock in the morning.

Speaker B:

Wasn't nobody there.

Speaker A:

One Texas hold' em table.

Speaker A:

And then it was only six, seven players.

Speaker A:

And the dude who hit it with me, he came and he said, how the table we like?

Speaker A:

Ah, it's cool, it's cool.

Speaker A:

He said, we gonna hit a jackpot in three hands.

Speaker A:

That since he sat down, me and him hit it.

Speaker A:

Shut the fuck up.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, whoa.

Speaker A:

So he gave me like, he was an old Italian.

Speaker A:

He had a jacket on.

Speaker A:

So I seen him on TV before playing on.

Speaker A:

Yes, I seen him on tv.

Speaker A:

So he had a jacket on for the casino.

Speaker A:

Like he was, you know, he was.

Speaker B:

A professional player, like at the moment professional.

Speaker A:

And he said, he says, you are good, kid.

Speaker A:

And he said, you play like a professional.

Speaker A:

He said, when you come and play, people trying to take her little three, your little thousand, my little five.

Speaker A:

People don't think to sit here and play it.

Speaker A:

Cause you.

Speaker A:

I didn't re Raise them.

Speaker A:

I flopped a straight.

Speaker A:

I flopped the straight and I runnered.

Speaker A:

Runnered a straight flush.

Speaker A:

Ooh.

Speaker A:

He flopped trips and then river.

Speaker A:

Four of a kind.

Speaker A:

Oh, so he's.

Speaker A:

He's betting it too.

Speaker A:

And he don't know.

Speaker A:

I got you.

Speaker A:

I'm dominating you.

Speaker A:

I fly straight.

Speaker A:

And he said, I just raised, you know, I just here, I raised and I just called.

Speaker A:

He said, most individuals would have pushed me out of there and I would have looked at it and seen that it was a straight.

Speaker A:

And I would have been gone and we would have never seen this.

Speaker A:

He said, you play it so smart, kid, because you knew what to do to get it.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, yeah, but, you know, that's how I play.

Speaker A:

Like, I mean, you raised me call.

Speaker A:

You raised me call.

Speaker A:

And I have more money than him.

Speaker A:

So he's like, you didn't push me out.

Speaker A:

And I was able to see the river.

Speaker A:

And then I runnered, runnered spades.

Speaker A:

You know, I flopped the straight.

Speaker A:

I'm suited.

Speaker A:

And then it runnered, runnered to the river.

Speaker A:

Yeah, the Turner in the river.

Speaker A:

Spades and the same exact cars just in spades.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, ooh, wee.

Speaker A:

So then he's sitting here, we hit it, and a dude across from us, he couldn't get home.

Speaker A:

He was going to San Diego from Vegas.

Speaker A:

He had no gas money.

Speaker A:

Another little kid.

Speaker A:

He has some story.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker A:

He.

Speaker A:

He didn't have no money.

Speaker A:

And they just sitting there playing.

Speaker A:

Like we just.

Speaker A:

It's not too much money.

Speaker A:

And they was all.

Speaker A:

He was able to go home.

Speaker A:

One called his mama everything.

Speaker A:

So when I'm walking around a casino, I reset it because I hit it.

Speaker A:

Everybody like, he did it, he did.

Speaker B:

It, he did it.

Speaker A:

Like who?

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker B:

Like the rapper kid.

Speaker B:

Rapper kid.

Speaker B:

And now everybody's surrounding you.

Speaker A:

hey got, like, at least about:

Speaker A:

So he felt good.

Speaker A:

He was able to go have a lot of.

Speaker A:

And he noticed content.

Speaker A:

Content creators.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So they're trying to just make a content off, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, he gave me a good old speech, and I was, like, excited.

Speaker A:

Like I said, I went back.

Speaker A:

They took me through the back, took me through this little ways.

Speaker A:

Like, hey, you want cash or check?

Speaker A:

I like, give me half and half.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

I said, give me cash for all that shit.

Speaker A:

Because I knew myself.

Speaker A:

And then I did go and mess off a lot of money.

Speaker A:

I went, shot dice, put like $5,000 on the.

Speaker A:

On the.

Speaker A:

On the line.

Speaker A:

And then once I did that, I was like, all right, it's time to go now.

Speaker A:

Let me go cash this check with them.

Speaker A:

So I cashed a check, took my little rest of my half, and I dipped home, went and bought a car, Threw some away, the same shit.

Speaker B:

Went home, bought me my first Lexus.

Speaker B:

My first luxury little everything.

Speaker A:

Bought a bins.

Speaker B:

Tell niggas ain't used to shit.

Speaker A:

I'll tell you, I was young, though.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

At all.

Speaker A:

I was like, what?

Speaker A:

I went and bought a bins.

Speaker A:

And I was like, yeah, never seen.

Speaker B:

$30,000 in my life.

Speaker B:

And what was I, probably 22.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

This 20 some years ago.

Speaker B:

That was a lot of money back then.

Speaker B:

That's a lot of money.

Speaker A:

Come on.

Speaker A:

Oh, my.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I thought I almost had a heart attack, but I hit mine on slots.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So mine was instant pay.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And everybody surrounded me then.

Speaker B:

I'm so generous.

Speaker B:

This is sometimes why I hate myself to a default.

Speaker B:

I'm giving out.

Speaker A:

Honey, honey.

Speaker B:

Because now I think I'm in ball.

Speaker A:

You like my grandma.

Speaker A:

My grandma did the same thing.

Speaker B:

She hit.

Speaker A:

Here you go.

Speaker A:

Here you go.

Speaker A:

Here you go.

Speaker B:

I mean, it's just.

Speaker B:

It's a whole world that people that don't gamble don't understand.

Speaker B:

Nah.

Speaker A:

At all.

Speaker A:

They don't know.

Speaker A:

Gamblers don't understand that.

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

But I will say I'm glad that we're both saved, that we're out of it.

Speaker B:

Cause you can.

Speaker B:

It's a.

Speaker B:

It's a very dangerous.

Speaker A:

Very dangerous.

Speaker B:

Very dangerous situation.

Speaker B:

But I will say I was never the type to gamble my rent money.

Speaker B:

I was a responsible but dumb gambler, if that makes sense.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I could say this.

Speaker A:

Mine's dangerous one was house games.

Speaker A:

So what you see these basketball players going and get in trouble for?

Speaker B:

I never played.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

With 20, 20 they came.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

So people understand when Covid came, it introduced house games.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

And I'm talking about, like, you know, thousand.

Speaker A:

I'll tell you what.

Speaker A:

Like, what I was doing.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna tell you who was there, but inner stars, executives, owners of certain big things.

Speaker A:

And we playing, like, in highrises on there.

Speaker A:

So when I see these, you know, coaches and all that, I'm like, ah, but that's what everybody was doing.

Speaker A:

But I see them getting caught, and I'm like, well, damn, nigga, if I was making 40 million a check a year as a coach or a player, I wouldn't have been doing this.

Speaker A:

You talking to a nigga who wasn't making no 40 million a year.

Speaker A:

But we was playing.

Speaker A:

I'm playing with niggas who were making that much money.

Speaker A:

So when they do like you say, I like these players.

Speaker A:

They were the type of players, like you said, you like how I am in a casino.

Speaker A:

Like, kid, what you going to do this?

Speaker A:

Like, I'm going to fuck off over 100, $200,000 tonight, easy.

Speaker A:

And I'm buying in with 5,000.

Speaker A:

They buying.

Speaker A:

They buying it with 20, 30, 30.

Speaker A:

And then they lose that.

Speaker A:

Can I buy in?

Speaker A:

Like, they'll ask the whole table.

Speaker A:

You guys mind if I.

Speaker A:

Like, the max is 5 to 10.

Speaker A:

Like, can I buy with 40,000?

Speaker A:

I'm over there looking like, let his ass do it.

Speaker A:

Yeah, let his ass do it.

Speaker A:

You know, And I'm playing as doctors, all this.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

But do.

Speaker A:

I mean, I had, when I first started, great nights.

Speaker A:

Did you have them bad nights?

Speaker A:

Now I'm trying to beat my chest.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm better than you.

Speaker A:

Even though you got a rubber band behind you.

Speaker A:

Nigga got, like a surgeon.

Speaker A:

He got a billboard, his own name and all that.

Speaker A:

His own law firm, law office, doctor's office, all that.

Speaker A:

I'm like, I could beat you.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And I have them nights where I. I had to do that to myself.

Speaker B:

You have to.

Speaker A:

So I stopped myself from going to house games.

Speaker A:

And then I think she knows that I completely just.

Speaker A:

I can't go, like, they Hit me all the time.

Speaker A:

Like, dog, I'm not.

Speaker A:

They.

Speaker A:

Oh, he been on the road, even touring.

Speaker A:

You gonna come by.

Speaker A:

I be damned.

Speaker A:

Nigga like, y' all not finna get this.

Speaker B:

It's a setup.

Speaker B:

Yeah, because they could break the rules.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So if you go on tour and you coming back and you got 30, 40, 50, 60,000 of fuck off money, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, you done took care of everything.

Speaker A:

You done put something in the kitty, did something that's paid tuition for kids, and I'm sitting on shit.

Speaker A:

You'll think to yourself, like, I know me.

Speaker A:

Like, why I'mma go in there and be double this shit if I get hit with pocket aces and I lose.

Speaker A:

What you think?

Speaker A:

I'm finna.

Speaker A:

I'm finna.

Speaker A:

Man, I'm pissed off.

Speaker A:

I'm finna sit here.

Speaker A:

I don't leave.

Speaker A:

I play like I want my shit back.

Speaker A:

So those games got dangerous to me.

Speaker A:

Not the casino.

Speaker A:

Casino is.

Speaker A:

You don't go in there like that.

Speaker A:

The house games, it's.

Speaker A:

It's individuals that are.

Speaker A:

They got a real addiction.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

But he has unlimited money.

Speaker A:

Unlimited.

Speaker A:

And kind of like the people who play like on the.

Speaker A:

The Hustler live, they got money like that.

Speaker A:

Where they buying in a hundred thousand.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So, which is my thing, don't get me wrong, I'm gonna go back to it.

Speaker A:

Cause they'll.

Speaker A:

They'll.

Speaker A:

They'll buy you a house in one night.

Speaker A:

You'll buy two house.

Speaker A:

You'll buy.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you'll buy a house in one night, but you have a bad night and you sitting on, you sick.

Speaker A:

A couple thousand, you going to be like, how did I.

Speaker A:

Why did I come here?

Speaker A:

Why did I come here?

Speaker B:

And people that don't g. Don't even probably understand the context of this conversation right now, but they going to learn today.

Speaker B:

Cuz let me tell you something.

Speaker B:

That could be a second job.

Speaker A:

It can literally, if you know how to do it.

Speaker A:

Like, I was in a casino.

Speaker A:

That's, that's.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

You're not burning through.

Speaker A:

Like, if I only come with a thousand, I'm gonna lose that thousand.

Speaker A:

I'm gone.

Speaker A:

I'm coming with what I want to win a day, and I only want to win a thousand dollars a day.

Speaker A:

Cause I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm happy with it.

Speaker B:

Correct.

Speaker A:

Who.

Speaker A:

Who, how many?

Speaker A:

How many?

Speaker A:

Average nine to fives making a thousand dollars a day.

Speaker B:

That's 20amonth.

Speaker B:

That's cool.

Speaker B:

Tax free.

Speaker A:

Come on top of that, you know.

Speaker B:

What I'm saying, that's why I had to back up.

Speaker B:

I just had to back up.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but that's.

Speaker B:

I'm glad I had to bring that up to you because I thought that was really cute to see.

Speaker B:

Oh, no.

Speaker A:

We could talk all day about gambling.

Speaker A:

I didn't know you did.

Speaker A:

I'm looking at you, I'm looking at your content and your interviews.

Speaker A:

I could never imagine like three card.

Speaker B:

Listen, she gambled every.

Speaker B:

And when I say I know every game, it's just.

Speaker B:

I started at 17.

Speaker B:

I'm 43.

Speaker B:

I quit three years ago is when I came.

Speaker B:

I built me a spa.

Speaker B:

I started this business with the transitional.

Speaker B:

And when I built the spa, you know, it's a casino right around the corner.

Speaker B:

So every time I just open a spa from here.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I shouldn't have tell you that shit.

Speaker A:

God damn.

Speaker B:

It's a card room.

Speaker B:

I'm band, so I can't go.

Speaker B:

It's bad.

Speaker B:

Don't you dare go.

Speaker A:

Sit down.

Speaker A:

I want you to go in there with a mask because they pull me up face cars.

Speaker A:

Just bet.

Speaker B:

But yeah, it's.

Speaker B:

It's a.

Speaker B:

It's a.

Speaker B:

It's a thing.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

But I'm glad that I was able to kind of leave it alone.

Speaker B:

And I had to force myself to do it because it was just too heavy for me.

Speaker B:

But anyway, because I did.

Speaker B:

Now when we.

Speaker B:

When we can outstate, I convince you we.

Speaker B:

We definitely going to the casino, but that it has to be out of state.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So tell me, what is it like being the son of a fucking legend?

Speaker B:

Because I know that me even sitting here looking at you look just like, oh, thank God.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Which is a compliment.

Speaker B:

I know you got a lot of siblings.

Speaker B:

What is it like, you know, one being a father, you know, and a son of a legend.

Speaker B:

I know you get stopped all the time.

Speaker B:

I know because I see you when they following you.

Speaker B:

That's a lot.

Speaker B:

I think I was just talking to the mechanics.

Speaker B:

They just left too.

Speaker B:

And I was asking them, as a celebrity growing up in hip hop, what was that like for you?

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker A:

The Mechanics came to our show we had in Oakland when I was on tour with Ice Cube.

Speaker A:

But it's beautiful.

Speaker A:

When I was young, it had its pros and cons because you're dealing with an individual who, you know, I mean, he's not here.

Speaker A:

So people have their own opinion.

Speaker A:

Of course, when a person passed away, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Oh, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

He did this and you have the love, majority love, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

But the individuals who had that undercover jealousy, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Or envy of him, you feel what I mean?

Speaker A:

It could be in the rap game, it could be a little hard because he was a black man who owned everything.

Speaker A:

And I'm talking about everything.

Speaker A:

I think I was just teaching my co manager, I was like, teach her.

Speaker A:

Like she was on a phone call with me listening to splits on a record and she was like, oh yeah, it's this company and this production company.

Speaker A:

And I told her like, you wanna know something?

Speaker A:

My daddy on both of them, like he was getting paid from the Rooter to the Tudor, but he got taught that, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

As far as, from his manager, which you, you know, Jerry Heller, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Most individuals of the ethnicity know this game and kind of control this game.

Speaker A:

So they taught him that and he owned everything.

Speaker A:

So you have individuals that kind of would kind of give me a hard time when I was younger, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

It could be big shoes that people, individuals think that I'm going to try to fill.

Speaker A:

And the thing what people don't know is I never tried to fill those shoes.

Speaker A:

All I tried to do is make sure that it was right here in front and there was clean.

Speaker A:

I didn't want to fill them.

Speaker A:

I can't fill them.

Speaker A:

I just want to bring them up here and make sure that they clean and straight and, and, and put in a box in a case.

Speaker A:

So in my words, you know what I'm saying, to bluntly tell you is just to sit here and make sure that a legacy never get forgotten, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And who better represented than his son?

Speaker A:

When I actually built my own studio and I had artists and I'm like, you know, friend of mine was like, go in there and play around.

Speaker A:

Went, played around.

Speaker A:

He like, man, certain words you say, you sound like them.

Speaker A:

And what you can.

Speaker A:

Are you rapping about is equivalent to your father, you live it.

Speaker A:

Because when I was young, all I did was trying to sit here and be him in the streets, per se, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, okay, it's his friend over here that, that hustle with him, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I'm running around and hey, you know what I mean, what he used to do, like, yeah, your daddy was one of them, you know, run around the corner, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And it's his homeboy's son and we running around and like, man, your baddie was a real one.

Speaker A:

So therefore, you just in Compton, regardless if we didn't do it, that we always was putting in a stigma that we were gang banging or doing something in that nature.

Speaker A:

Police gonna look at your ID and say, oh, you from over here.

Speaker A:

You from over here.

Speaker A:

Where Eazy from Kelly Park.

Speaker A:

This is where you from.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

But most of it was just individuals who could relate to me because they lost their daddy either to drugs, violence, or to prison.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And we can relate and we just moving around in roaming.

Speaker A:

So as a kid, I'd sit here and try to, in that nature, kind of replicate, you know, who he was and be tough.

Speaker A:

And then like my grandfather used to tell me, like, you gonna have a lot of people test you cause who your daddy is.

Speaker A:

So I was hard.

Speaker A:

I was a little, you know, short man's complex, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So beat my chest.

Speaker A:

But music wise, no, I just wanted to make sure that you didn't forget him.

Speaker A:

Because when I actually did start it, you had a lot of.

Speaker A:

And no disrespect to him is, oh, Tupac, Biggie, always somebody who started way before them, who matter of fact made them feel like it's okay to.

Speaker A:

To say what they say and.

Speaker A:

Or, you know, the east coast to feel like we gonna go to some hardcore because, you know, like Pop said it was on the left, right kick that.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Kid in Play and Run DMC out there, no disrespect to that, but, you know, I mean, these individuals kicking in hardcore to you, so dang, you know, they just.

Speaker A:

They forgot it and, you know, just being, you know, wise.

Speaker A:

Because how he died, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

If it was gun violence, we sit here, we highlight it.

Speaker A:

We want to.

Speaker A:

That's what media does.

Speaker A:

They want to highlight, oh, these two niggas shot each other.

Speaker A:

Oh, let's highlight it.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

We want to represent for them because how he died, it gets shunned over.

Speaker A:

But what he did for this game and who he put on in this game, and you look at the family tree, you don't have no, you don't have the stuff Kanye west say.

Speaker A:

Let's just go that you can say, fuck the police.

Speaker A:

It's hard treat them.

Speaker A:

We buy our way out of jail, but we can't buy freedom.

Speaker A:

Where does he get that line from by saying, fuck the police?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

You could go to 50 Cent, you go to Eminem you go to the game, it wouldn't be no family tree.

Speaker A:

You don't have no Mac 10.

Speaker A:

You don't have no Dub C. You don't have none of this stuff if it wasn't a family tree that he planted and seeded.

Speaker A:

Now going on to bone thugs and harmony, so forth and so on.

Speaker A:

You don't have none of that.

Speaker A:

Michelle a JJ fag.

Speaker A:

We go in different genres of music that he sit here and did and showed you, and he owned his own.

Speaker A:

Now.

Speaker A:

You have the puff daddies, the masterpiece, the babies.

Speaker A:

You have all these individuals that learn from this individual.

Speaker A:

Like, whoa.

Speaker A:

You have the Suge Knights, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And everything that came with them from the.

Speaker A:

The Snoop Doggs, the Dog Pound, everything.

Speaker A:

You wouldn't have that if it wasn't for this man or what he did.

Speaker A:

So therefore, that's all I wanted to do, is make the people not forget it.

Speaker A:

I can't fill his shoes.

Speaker A:

And then people understanding this game.

Speaker A:

There ain't going to be no other than NWA Ain't gonna be no other Easy.

Speaker A:

I'm little Easy.

Speaker A:

I'm a.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

You're not.

Speaker B:

So therefore still legendary.

Speaker A:

Appreciate it.

Speaker A:

So I just want to make sure people knew and see it.

Speaker A:

And once I sit here was like content in my head.

Speaker A:

And now that I've made that known, it was much easier in this game, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, I toured the world.

Speaker A:

Like I said, I toured the world.

Speaker A:

And I ain't never put an album out.

Speaker A:

Tore the world.

Speaker B:

That's dope.

Speaker A:

Just got off of North America tour with Ice Cube, one of the biggest individuals in my generation and from my legacy, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And I never put an album out.

Speaker A:

I have seen country to country.

Speaker A:

I have seen Australia:

Speaker B:

I love it.

Speaker A:

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker A:

Love it.

Speaker A:

And I went.

Speaker A:

But three years ago, I went four times in one year touring.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Germany, new one from last year.

Speaker A:

Switzerland, a new one from last year.

Speaker A:

Over and over.

Speaker A:

And I have never put an album out.

Speaker A:

And I get the love when individuals come and say, my son wanted to sit here and come see you because he's seen your father in the movie or technically and all that and the other.

Speaker A:

And would never ever get to see that.

Speaker A:

I seen your dad when I was his age, so I wanted to bring him to see you.

Speaker A:

And then this kid comes and be like, are you ever gonna Put music out.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker A:

So it inspires me to sit here and be like, dang, okay, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Let me go try to do it.

Speaker A:

So I'll sprinkle a single here and there, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I did a mixtape, I had three record deals.

Speaker A:

But it just didn't.

Speaker A:

But you know what I mean, God didn't stop that blessing from, hey, you're going to see the world.

Speaker A:

You're going to see my whole creation and provide for your family.

Speaker A:

No matter if these people sit here and played you out of things that you feel that you should have got because your father's son and all that, go make it on your own.

Speaker A:

But from the groundwork that he laid.

Speaker A:

And I go on tour and I.

Speaker B:

Do his music, that's a blessing, to be honest.

Speaker A:

All praises through the God.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's a blessing.

Speaker A:

I'm like, man, so that's what it was.

Speaker A:

And it got better.

Speaker A:

So as I got older, you know, I kind of reaped the benefits.

Speaker B:

Own route too.

Speaker B:

You created easy.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I did.

Speaker A:

I did.

Speaker A:

In a sense.

Speaker A:

I was humble.

Speaker A:

So humble.

Speaker A:

And I am still humble to where when people used to say that I'm like.

Speaker A:

And I got old enough to start understanding, like, yeah, I hear you.

Speaker A:

I hear you there in that sense.

Speaker A:

I hear you.

Speaker A:

You feel what I mean?

Speaker A:

Because, yeah, my name is known for what my name is and how hard I go for the legacy I come from.

Speaker A:

And individuals be like, man, that's a little easy, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And it's a good feeling, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

But it was never produced for me.

Speaker A:

I don't give a.

Speaker A:

Excuse my language, fuck about being no best rapper and all that.

Speaker A:

What I could tell you is I'm the realest.

Speaker A:

Because what I speak and what I do is where I came from.

Speaker A:

I'm born and raised.

Speaker A:

I didn't go to Riverside, I didn't go to the Valley, I didn't go to Calabasas.

Speaker B:

Straight Compton.

Speaker A:

I was born and raised in Compton in the same house he was born and raised, where NWA started.

Speaker A:

You know, I didn't.

Speaker A:

I didn't get the.

Speaker A:

The pleasures of Sydney.

Speaker A:

I come home, go to private school.

Speaker A:

Don't get me wrong, make sure my education was right.

Speaker A:

But when I came back home, I'm right there with them street lights come on you, you know, helicopters.

Speaker A:

That's where I was run.

Speaker A:

So I am the realest.

Speaker A:

There's nothing that I sit here and speak out of my mouth is nothing that I didn't live.

Speaker A:

And I don't.

Speaker A:

I'm so mature now that I don't sit here and have a sense of wanting to engage in the stupidity.

Speaker A:

Because why?

Speaker A:

You know how many lives I lost that's been lost that I know, or family, you know, that's gone or behind the stupidity of us being against each other because we.

Speaker A:

This skin color.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So we were brainwashed and messed up with our society to sit here and do that to each other and feel like that's the form of fashion to do, but we won't do that to another.

Speaker A:

I could walk down your stairs and four white men could walk up, and I don't think nothing of it, but niggas walk up.

Speaker A:

My sense goes up.

Speaker A:

And I learned that, and I understood.

Speaker A:

Like, that's messed up.

Speaker A:

So I teach.

Speaker A:

Best thing I could do is teach my kids, my family that we have a problem.

Speaker A:

So, you know, I mean, like, why.

Speaker B:

Is that, you think?

Speaker A:

It's just the cars that we were dealt as, as, as.

Speaker A:

As African Americans, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

It's just.

Speaker A:

And it's crazy.

Speaker A:

I don't even say that word.

Speaker A:

She know.

Speaker A:

I don't even say that word because I just.

Speaker A:

It's a black American.

Speaker A:

I don't even say African.

Speaker B:

Oh, you know, I ain't African American.

Speaker B:

I'm definitely black American.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm black American.

Speaker B:

Food, we don't eat food.

Speaker A:

I don't know that I don't even say African American.

Speaker B:

No offense.

Speaker A:

We love African.

Speaker A:

Not at all.

Speaker B:

I'm black.

Speaker A:

I traveled the world and I.

Speaker A:

And I noticed how and what they feel like.

Speaker A:

But my lineage of where my mama, my great, great grandma and all that, I can't tie it to Africa.

Speaker A:

I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker A:

I can't tie it to Africa.

Speaker B:

I mean, me neither.

Speaker A:

I agree.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, my.

Speaker A:

My mother's Creole, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So, you know, I can't tie it to there.

Speaker A:

So in between, when master was creeping back in the back alley from sand, you know, we got sprinkled a little European mess up into us.

Speaker A:

And we were created so I don't have no tie to it, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Just traveling the world and learning education of it.

Speaker A:

So as black man, that is just the cars that we were dealt, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

That's the society had out for us.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And it's sad to say.

Speaker A:

Whatever changed, it has a change within Us.

Speaker A:

So when I go speak to the youth, when I go to Australia, when I go back to my city or go to any state, I just try to educate them on that, you know?

Speaker A:

I mean, you want to be gangster, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Let's talk about how many, like, the gangster stuff I do, you know, how many businesses you can own, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

It's like I tell my homies in my area, my hood, like, you niggas come to the hood, y' all trespassing.

Speaker A:

It's gangster.

Speaker A:

Because why could come to my house?

Speaker A:

I own my house over there.

Speaker A:

Y' all come and stay, hang out in the hood.

Speaker A:

Somebody could call y' all trespassing in front of somebody who together, it's gangster.

Speaker A:

When you sit here and you feel like, hey, I own my house, I own property in the hood.

Speaker A:

Then come chill and hang out in the hood.

Speaker A:

But therefore, that's what you compete about.

Speaker A:

But not about who.

Speaker A:

Who can do that or the stupidity who got more guns.

Speaker A:

And this, that and the other, that don't mean nothing.

Speaker A:

Because nowadays, like I say, almost every hood, you go to the hood, the niggas trespassing, they don't have nothing in there, have no business in the hood, no wooten any other.

Speaker A:

Don't own nothing in the hood.

Speaker A:

I own something.

Speaker A:

So that's why I tell niggas I'm the gangster in my turf, period.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I own my house.

Speaker A:

So for I want to go kick it on the block that I was born and raised at, where we.

Speaker A:

Where we claim at.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I could do whatever I piss on my own grass if I want to.

Speaker B:

And you still can.

Speaker B:

Like, meaning you can to still be in the hood at your own.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

That's gangster.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So, like, real gangster, what do you want to live for?

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I live to own things and to sit there and leave things for my family and all that legendary.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Like, so you know what's, like, it's two options.

Speaker A:

You're gonna be dead or in jail.

Speaker A:

And if they tell you that's what they.

Speaker A:

That we set out only to be, then you're gonna be a statistic to sit there and what society says that you are.

Speaker A:

Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker A:

Well, so what?

Speaker A:

You know me.

Speaker A:

I don't.

Speaker A:

I want to be better than my father.

Speaker A:

My father wanted me better than me and my son.

Speaker A:

I want him to be better than me, period.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So that can't be the story everybody giving, oh, you know, my daddy did it and all that and the other, like, you don't think he wanted better, you want to be better than him, you know, I mean, I'm not you suicidal.

Speaker A:

Hey, it's a plenty of guns you could cool and go do Russia roulette with, period.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, so that's that you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, you know, it's just, it's a problem.

Speaker A:

So you gotta start small.

Speaker A:

And it's, and it's to be real.

Speaker A:

And I'm speaking real with you.

Speaker A:

It's just, just like I speak to individuals older than me.

Speaker A:

It's like, I don't think I see it in my time of living that have changed.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, it's like, you know, I look at some of these rappers and go, they got the RICO act after you became a millionaire.

Speaker A:

I had it when I was 18.

Speaker A:

And it's a scary motherfucking thing.

Speaker A:

I bet it's a scary thing, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

When I got cussed out with my grandmother, like what am I doing?

Speaker A:

That scared me too.

Speaker A:

You know, when I knew that I was sitting here stressing her out on what I was doing and she got a call that I was, I was involved in the situation.

Speaker A:

RICO act.

Speaker A:

That scared me, you know, because I cared about her.

Speaker A:

I cared about my family.

Speaker B:

How she felt about you?

Speaker A:

Yeah, I cared about my family.

Speaker B:

You don't want to stress her out?

Speaker A:

Not at all.

Speaker B:

So she already stressed out in the life or come from, you know, the industry.

Speaker A:

And then these niggas sit here and became famous.

Speaker A:

And then you said but yourself back to go do that.

Speaker A:

That's stupid.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I don't understand that.

Speaker A:

That's stupid.

Speaker B:

I don't understand.

Speaker B:

It's so many washed up rappers and niggas that made it and then went back to that lifestyle.

Speaker B:

I mean, I can name quite a few from the town.

Speaker B:

I don't, I don't personally understand that.

Speaker B:

Cause once I make it, nigga, I'm never looking back.

Speaker A:

Come on.

Speaker B:

I'm not like, you know, or even if I get a little platform, I'm finna try to elevate and take it to the next level.

Speaker A:

Come on.

Speaker B:

But you was on that.

Speaker B:

What's that show growing up hip hop.

Speaker B:

I was obsessed with that.

Speaker B:

I believe was mulatto on there.

Speaker B:

And who was on that?

Speaker A:

It was the Simmons kids.

Speaker B:

The Simmons kids.

Speaker A:

It was Casey and JoJo's kids.

Speaker A:

Lazy came later.

Speaker A:

It was Dame Dash's kids.

Speaker A:

It was Stevie J's kids.

Speaker A:

Mary J. Blige's stepdaughter.

Speaker A:

I'm probably forgetting.

Speaker A:

And Romeo and Master P. That's who it was.

Speaker B:

That's her stepdaughter, the one with the freckles.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker B:

Why?

Speaker A:

I didn't know that.

Speaker B:

Oops.

Speaker A:

That's her stepdad.

Speaker A:

Her stepdaughter.

Speaker A:

I thought, I know, man.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker A:

But, you know, I mean, if you.

Speaker B:

I'm messy.

Speaker A:

Really felt it followed the thing.

Speaker A:

Me and her messed around and dealt with each other.

Speaker A:

So they try to throw me into a mix with her.

Speaker A:

Brianna's a good person.

Speaker A:

Briana's a good person.

Speaker A:

Briana's a good person.

Speaker A:

She came up, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And I think Inglewood, and not too much in the industry.

Speaker A:

Her is her father.

Speaker A:

Because she steered clear to the dumb of it.

Speaker A:

And that's why she always kind of clashed with Angela Simmons.

Speaker A:

She's from Englewood, and she just.

Speaker A:

She's solid.

Speaker A:

It's just, you know, I mean, it's.

Speaker A:

You know, you keep playing with a person a certain way.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And they keep it too real into this industry.

Speaker A:

It can have this bad mix of oil and water, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

As far as I know, she just had a baby again.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker A:

And she's doing all right.

Speaker A:

Like, I still follow her, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I still give my support and love to her from a distance, but, yeah, Brianna wasn't bad.

Speaker B:

No, she wasn't.

Speaker B:

I feel like she just was a little drinker and did what she didn't have.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

When she.

Speaker A:

Okay, so when you're on the show and they give you this nigga, she's my favorite.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

Like, is it scripted?

Speaker A:

Like, check this out.

Speaker A:

What they're gonna do is they're gonna have a party.

Speaker A:

We go come to your podcast situation, and we gonna invite the individuals we know that might have a little disagreement.

Speaker A:

But before they get here, we're gonna.

Speaker B:

Give them some lick.

Speaker A:

We're gonna have them get relaxed.

Speaker B:

Everything is scripted, just so y' all know.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I know what reality, you know?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

You know, get them to relax, and then therefore, that's how they get the situation.

Speaker B:

More money in their pocket, probably.

Speaker A:

A whole lot.

Speaker A:

A whole lot.

Speaker A:

We broke.

Speaker A:

We broke.

Speaker A:

We broke records on that.

Speaker B:

Oh, I watched y' All I love.

Speaker A:

Records on that show.

Speaker A:

We almost.

Speaker B:

Almost the same age.

Speaker B:

And I loved back then reality TV was just so different now than it is, you know, back then than it is now.

Speaker B:

It's just a lot of drama, I think people capitalizing off drama, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And it's sad, but I mean, it's what we watch, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like the baddies, for instance, I think I was just.

Speaker B:

I know everybody say that I'm obsessed with Natalie Nunn.

Speaker B:

The bitch gonna be sitting here wondering.

Speaker B:

I love her.

Speaker B:

I think we always stick was saying this.

Speaker A:

I know Natalie from way back before.

Speaker B:

She was talking shit about her.

Speaker B:

But, you know, like I always say, from a business perspective, I can't knock it.

Speaker A:

I'm supportive of everything to do.

Speaker A:

And everybody has their own opinion of things, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Of what you highlight how you make certain ladies look or do.

Speaker A:

But can I knock Natalie for what you created and didn't know?

Speaker A:

Why would I like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

To me, I go at home.

Speaker A:

I go home and I'm walking in the house, and I get my two daughters just go upstairs.

Speaker A:

What's going on, Daddy?

Speaker A:

What's it called?

Speaker A:

They sit here fighting with.

Speaker A:

Dude, we just turned it on.

Speaker A:

It's a new episode.

Speaker A:

So what the.

Speaker A:

What the.

Speaker A:

Is y' all watching?

Speaker A:

Baddies, Daddy, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, you not into it, like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Yeah, give it the program, Daddy, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Got my other daughter talking about.

Speaker A:

Yeah, she clocked it on you, Daddy, I'm gonna clock all these lights off in this house.

Speaker A:

Y' all could watch.

Speaker A:

So I trip off it.

Speaker A:

Like, damn, look at.

Speaker A:

They didn't got my babies.

Speaker A:

My baby's 18 and 16.

Speaker A:

So you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I'm talking about they was watching years ago, before they even got into college.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, ah, like, what?

Speaker A:

And I can't knock it.

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker A:

It's good.

Speaker A:

It's just the.

Speaker A:

The stuff.

Speaker A:

But the thing about it is, certain people got their own opinions about it.

Speaker A:

But how I raise my children, they understand that's entertainment, period.

Speaker A:

I'm not acting this way.

Speaker A:

I'll be damned.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, And I hear my daughter say that, daddy, do I look like wooten?

Speaker A:

The other.

Speaker A:

I'll be sitting here fighting a girl over this, that, and the other wootu.

Speaker A:

It's just something good for me.

Speaker A:

Watch good.

Speaker A:

That's all I care about, you know, What I'm saying, do not attain yourself to this somewhat stupidity that I do.

Speaker A:

See at times, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

But as far as what Natalie Nunn's doing.

Speaker A:

Success.

Speaker A:

Do your thing, period.

Speaker A:

Corona, do plumber, whatever his name is.

Speaker A:

We'll do your thing.

Speaker A:

Let me.

Speaker A:

Whatever.

Speaker B:

Let me.

Speaker B:

Plumber.

Speaker A:

Yeah, do your thing.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker B:

First, like, what?

Speaker B:

Black started a whole network.

Speaker B:

But, I mean, he's.

Speaker B:

He's doing his big one.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm like, big up to him for what he's doing.

Speaker A:

He made a lane to sit here and have success.

Speaker A:

And you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Longevity for his kids.

Speaker A:

If he have them or whatever he does, I'm all for it.

Speaker A:

And the negative opinion people have, hey, raise yours right.

Speaker A:

And they won't.

Speaker A:

Other than that, they use it just for entertainment.

Speaker A:

Education.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it could be in certain ways.

Speaker A:

We watch retarded ass movies, so it's.

Speaker B:

Like YouTube scrolling off Instagram is the same.

Speaker A:

All that stuff.

Speaker A:

I don't trip off it.

Speaker A:

Cause my daughters know as far as in what's what not, would they be signing up for some bad.

Speaker A:

Nope.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And one's in college and one's athletes, so no.

Speaker A:

But I will watch it though, daddy.

Speaker A:

Okay, cool.

Speaker A:

It's entertainment.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

All right, then.

Speaker A:

I had my ass going over here.

Speaker A:

So who fight next week?

Speaker A:

So who get down next?

Speaker B:

She watching it.

Speaker B:

Oh, she got her ass whipped.

Speaker B:

Damn.

Speaker A:

Did she stop it?

Speaker B:

No, it just.

Speaker A:

She could fight.

Speaker B:

Which one?

Speaker A:

Krishan's sister.

Speaker B:

Oh, shit.

Speaker B:

Nah, she.

Speaker B:

She didn't get her ass whipped, but it was.

Speaker B:

No, no, they actually funking from what I see.

Speaker B:

But Tashiki, her.

Speaker B:

Chrisean's friend, Mar.

Speaker B:

She did kind of get with Tashiki, though.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

I think I seen that Wootu.

Speaker A:

She held her own.

Speaker A:

And I went through the comments and I was like, oh, she's not scared.

Speaker A:

I like whoever's fighting.

Speaker A:

I just.

Speaker A:

I just follow Chrisean's sense because I know this girl.

Speaker A:

Get down you.

Speaker A:

If I was somebody, I'd be coming at you and be like, hey, you want to sit here and come make some real money?

Speaker A:

Because Carissa needed somebody that could compete and fight with her.

Speaker A:

Talk to me now.

Speaker A:

That's be thinking.

Speaker A:

I'm thinking on some real money, like, somebody should be holling at you.

Speaker A:

I don't give a.

Speaker A:

Tell me right now, E. Would you get in the ring with Mike?

Speaker A:

Mike Tyson?

Speaker A:

You put you Mike, I'mma make ten.

Speaker A:

I'mma dance around for a Minute you feel what I'm saying, like, and hoping this don't connect with me with an uppercut.

Speaker A:

But if you ask me right now, at his age.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying back then, man, listen.

Speaker B:

Absolutely not.

Speaker A:

In a sense, that's her.

Speaker A:

I'm not gonna say.

Speaker A:

She.

Speaker A:

She can't squab, so somebody should be talking up to her to fight this.

Speaker B:

Well, you know, Chrisean just signed to the boxing label.

Speaker A:

Chrisean just her sister.

Speaker B:

No, but Chrisean got hands too.

Speaker A:

Not like her sister.

Speaker A:

That's a big deal.

Speaker B:

She just got jumped into Compton.

Speaker A:

That's my.

Speaker A:

My family.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's just.

Speaker B:

Y' all don't come for me.

Speaker B:

I promise.

Speaker B:

I ain't with you.

Speaker A:

I came from there.

Speaker A:

I just.

Speaker A:

I just flew to Arizona to do a show with Bone Thugs, E40 Maya, and DJ Quick.

Speaker A:

And right before I got on my plane, I just left.

Speaker A:

Me and game just left the Compton parade.

Speaker A:

So it was right there in Wilson park, right down the street, my sister's house, right in Santa.

Speaker A:

I know everything.

Speaker A:

I'm from Compton, right in Santana Block.

Speaker A:

And yeah, I seen a lot of them that fought her raised since they was little girls.

Speaker B:

I heard they just got into a car accident.

Speaker A:

Yeah, she just flipped over.

Speaker B:

Is she okay?

Speaker A:

She will be.

Speaker B:

Damn.

Speaker B:

I seen that shit.

Speaker A:

You know, I was more mad at the ass that I seen all these vlogs at his video and I said, do you know they pay for this?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I think maybe half the videos y' all seen my little nephew recorded.

Speaker A:

And they took it from him on his phone.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker A:

My little young nephew recorded it.

Speaker A:

He right there running behind him, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

He wanted a picture with Kashan, he got his picture.

Speaker A:

And then when it went down, he's recording it.

Speaker A:

I know every.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

Yeah, she.

Speaker A:

She got.

Speaker A:

She just got hit.

Speaker A:

She didn't even want to leave.

Speaker A:

She told them, I catch a hair head up with each and every one of you.

Speaker A:

She didn't even want to leave that little girl.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

But to be fair, she understand of what she did as disrespectful in gang culture, Correct?

Speaker A:

Because why, again, like I say, we would not be here to sit here and not see this go on.

Speaker A:

It's always going to be going on.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

It's where I come from.

Speaker A:

And it is a line of respect that you do have to give for the individuals that.

Speaker B:

But I need to understand, because she.

Speaker A:

Said a wrong word.

Speaker B:

Ah, got it.

Speaker B:

Was that what that was?

Speaker B:

I thought.

Speaker B:

I just thought she said record and touch the girl phone.

Speaker A:

She said to be.

Speaker A:

To quote it to.

Speaker A:

What I heard and understand why individuals wanted to go at her is that blueface was the king of the.

Speaker B:

Got it.

Speaker A:

You know, it's a word that we do not.

Speaker A:

We do not.

Speaker A:

On the blue side.

Speaker A:

Stand by.

Speaker B:

So you on the side.

Speaker A:

On the blue side.

Speaker A:

I was raised a Crip.

Speaker B:

Got you.

Speaker A:

I was raised.

Speaker A:

I'm a man, I'm a father.

Speaker A:

I was raised a crook.

Speaker A:

My area where I'm born and raised and my father and all that, we wear blue.

Speaker B:

It's funny you said that.

Speaker B:

Cause I was just talking to the last dude, Sean.

Speaker B:

He's over hip hop, live tv.

Speaker B:

And we was just saying.

Speaker B:

I don't know if you've seen that clip with this guy.

Speaker B:

He was saying how in Oakland.

Speaker B:

We don't fuck with that.

Speaker A:

No, don't.

Speaker A:

But they just.

Speaker A:

In Oakland, they use the word blood.

Speaker A:

Young blood.

Speaker A:

And it was old.

Speaker A:

And so.

Speaker A:

So a lot of society that is not educated or travel outside of their own city will think that Oakland is a predominantly red rags because they use the word blood.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Or they might say P because of the old, old school pimping.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So P in.

Speaker A:

In our area is we a person who's not educated to travel outside and get educated to different areas and different lingual.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, I mean, like, for example, we went to Chicago.

Speaker A:

It's different ways you wear your hat that signifies where you from.

Speaker B:

I heard about that.

Speaker A:

Me being wuthup.

Speaker A:

And I traveled so much to Chicago.

Speaker A:

I still didn't know that.

Speaker A:

Like, are you serious?

Speaker B:

I heard about that.

Speaker A:

Like, if I tilt it this way, this way it's different.

Speaker A:

Like, wow.

Speaker A:

So we performing and I said, well, dang.

Speaker A:

Cause me and Cube wearing black rags.

Speaker A:

So I said, man, we don't want to go out there and feel like we disrespected the thing.

Speaker A:

So this black rag stand.

Speaker A:

It ain't that.

Speaker A:

It's how you wear your hat than this and which ways.

Speaker A:

Like, wow.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

So, you know, I mean, it's cool to get educated in.

Speaker A:

In things of the atmosphere and environment that you're in.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Because why.

Speaker A:

I grew up in that culture myself, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So the ones who do not get out the hood, let's just per se.

Speaker A:

You say P, you saying piru.

Speaker B:

Got it.

Speaker B:

I'm so fucked up.

Speaker A:

You say blood.

Speaker A:

I didn't Know you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Or my relative.

Speaker A:

You a blood.

Speaker B:

Take to our knowledge, educate the people.

Speaker B:

That's for the crip or the blood.

Speaker A:

Or piru is blood.

Speaker A:

Piru is pirus, to be.

Speaker A:

To be exact.

Speaker A:

Got you, Pirus.

Speaker A:

Outside of Compton, bloods got you.

Speaker A:

Same signified of the.

Speaker A:

The opposite of a crip, blood or pirou.

Speaker A:

But there is a significant thin line.

Speaker A:

Compton, we have pirus.

Speaker A:

Outside of Compton, you got bloods.

Speaker A:

They were burgundy or red.

Speaker A:

You say P. Piru, you say relative.

Speaker A:

You a blood or piru.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

You say blood.

Speaker A:

You either pirou or blood.

Speaker A:

So when we hear Oakland individuals say they're slang.

Speaker A:

You will think that me knowing that that's just some of their slang.

Speaker A:

They really do not ride with no different colors of that nation.

Speaker B:

Wear a block.

Speaker B:

It's turf.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

And it's like already, oh, come on, P. You found me.

Speaker A:

Like, oh, if you pop it, they still want some people who don't get out the hood will still want to know that's a pimpy popping his collar.

Speaker A:

You would just listen to that, P.

Speaker B:

And you're throwing all that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you know, Chris, we say, cuz.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

That's my cousin.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's my relative.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, he's a blood.

Speaker B:

We say cuz out here.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I said that to your ass when you walked up.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So some people who do not get out be like, okay, cool.

Speaker A:

She.

Speaker A:

She know there.

Speaker A:

And you have some people that.

Speaker A:

I have family from Woothu.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's my relative.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, you just.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

You from the other side, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I'm scared.

Speaker A:

She understands.

Speaker A:

She got an artist, you know.

Speaker A:

I mean, it said Eric said, cracking.

Speaker A:

I love him to say Bracken.

Speaker A:

They don't.

Speaker A:

They want to change the seeds to the bees.

Speaker B:

That's just.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So it is.

Speaker B:

It's automated for you guys, though.

Speaker B:

That's just what.

Speaker A:

Let me tell you this.

Speaker B:

I went to LA, I think when I was about 17 years old.

Speaker B:

Me and my homegirl and she.

Speaker B:

We drove Bone Thugs and Harmony.

Speaker B:

They was having a concert.

Speaker B:

She's obsessed with them.

Speaker B:

So we drive out there, we boop out there, and she went to see this little boy that she loved.

Speaker B:

We accidentally nigga walked through the crib side and we had on red.

Speaker B:

All we.

Speaker B:

All this shit go I mean, n. All in the.

Speaker B:

And we look at.

Speaker B:

I'm like, sis, what the.

Speaker B:

Is we cool?

Speaker A:

Like it's a blood car.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So I'm like, oh, we got red.

Speaker B:

On and we're in the bl.

Speaker B:

I threw my hands up like, listen, I'm from Oakland, California.

Speaker B:

I don't know nothing.

Speaker A:

I am not a real man.

Speaker A:

And to a real individual, you don't even.

Speaker A:

That you don't even signify the women because you do got some gang bang women, you know, but you do not signify the women are even trip on a woman because she got on a color.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

We.

Speaker A:

We grew up to where we met.

Speaker A:

We like to mess with the blood girls.

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker A:

It was always like that.

Speaker A:

It's opposite attract, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like the blood girls go.

Speaker A:

The blood girls go mess with a crip.

Speaker A:

The crip girls go mess with the blood.

Speaker B:

Well.

Speaker B:

Oh, see, I'm just messing.

Speaker B:

That's like stunning.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And that's how you have certain situations in a war get, you know, diffused.

Speaker A:

Because why there's a thin line with that woman gonna be out there.

Speaker A:

I'm sorry, I'm sorry to say that now we can speak on the sexist level.

Speaker A:

Most wars started with a woman.

Speaker B:

Oh.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Yes, same out here.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's, that's, that's just really how.

Speaker A:

Really how it is, you know, I mean, the opposites attract.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I'm going over there picking up girls in.

Speaker A:

In my enemy neighborhood, that's all red rags.

Speaker A:

And like what that kind of drove me.

Speaker A:

It was excitement.

Speaker A:

It was a.

Speaker A:

It was a thrill.

Speaker A:

Like, what, you gonna hit her?

Speaker A:

And talking about you want this crypt dick, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Tie a blue rag around her neck and all that little toxic.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So you know, we just did that.

Speaker A:

We were.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

We was young and like that.

Speaker A:

So that's what it is.

Speaker A:

You know, talk about our homeboys and who you could beat up and woo dupe and you better let this know this, that and the other dumb stuff.

Speaker A:

That's how.

Speaker A:

Well, that's how ignorant I was.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So I'm glad I grew up.

Speaker B:

Yeah, me too.

Speaker A:

See, I'm glad I grew up.

Speaker A:

But you know what I mean, you just.

Speaker A:

You just pump it up to be.

Speaker B:

Totally educated me, you know, I mean.

Speaker A:

You should pump it up to be ignorant stuff.

Speaker A:

But that's what it was.

Speaker A:

Chrisean.

Speaker A:

Basically, back to the general story is she said something that was disrespectful to the society.

Speaker A:

And then you went over there to the Compton parade in the.

Speaker A:

Not predominantly to the heart.

Speaker A:

To the heart.

Speaker A:

East side of Compton is the heart.

Speaker A:

There's one, maybe a few.

Speaker A:

Not to disrespect y', all, but we gonna speak real.

Speaker A:

One popular pirou set that's around there, that's what sugs from from.

Speaker A:

But the east side is predominantly Crips.

Speaker A:

That's where I'm from.

Speaker A:

Predominantly Chris, my daddy's from.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

It's predominantly crips.

Speaker A:

The 1/ Real reptable bloods are from the Mob or Ludus Park.

Speaker A:

And that's the area Sugar's from.

Speaker A:

Don't get me wrong, you got Cross Atlantic, you got Limehood, you got Hollyhood, you got all this.

Speaker A:

But in my era, and everybody knows anybody's looking at this podcast, my area era, in trooping the streets, they just weren't.

Speaker A:

They weren't.

Speaker A:

They were extinct, put it that way.

Speaker A:

They were OGs.

Speaker A:

And not to disrespect them, it's just.

Speaker A:

You had no homies in my era that was running the streets.

Speaker A:

The only ones were Lime Hood, Lotus park and the Mob on the east side of Compton.

Speaker A:

So she went to the east side of Compton, which is Wilson Park, Santana.

Speaker B:

Block, she a fool for that.

Speaker A:

And these girls felt the necessity of what she said.

Speaker A:

What was that stuff you said?

Speaker A:

And what Chrisean did is she snatched a girl's phone because the girl was recording, not knowing what she was recording for.

Speaker A:

But you snatched her phone.

Speaker A:

Now, these are Compton girls and you held your own.

Speaker A:

Don't get me wrong.

Speaker A:

And you, you.

Speaker A:

You troop like you was a trooper.

Speaker A:

What I respect, you didn't want to leave.

Speaker A:

You wanted to get down with all the girls and all that.

Speaker B:

And the other very calmly, too.

Speaker A:

Yeah, she did.

Speaker B:

She said, no, let me get women.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

The thing about it is, see, we have a.

Speaker A:

What you call that we have a complex in Compton.

Speaker A:

We feel like we it etnea.

Speaker A:

You don't travel the world to understand there really is places just like us around this world.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

Around this world.

Speaker A:

We just as ourselves feel like we started it and we are it.

Speaker A:

But it's places with individuals who are bred just like us.

Speaker A:

Around this world, we stand on what we stand on.

Speaker A:

And that's more so the 80s, early 90s, we stand on that as far as being the realest and.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And we in this and before my time and all that, that.

Speaker A:

But in this generation, you got these TVs, this Internet you got the world, you got individuals traveling, you got individuals going to go sell dope out here and forming a whole gang.

Speaker A:

And Woodoo and all these is claiming something that started from LA or Compton.

Speaker A:

And they're going to try to breed and you gonna have, I don't care if you breed a hundred of them, at least 10 of them is gonna be thorough individuals that's really living the life that, that you went out there and brainwashed him to do.

Speaker A:

So in.

Speaker A:

My point of saying that is she's from Baltimore, ain't no busters.

Speaker A:

Like, she ain't no buster.

Speaker A:

She gonna feel like, hey, I'm gonna get down with a girl to get down.

Speaker A:

Just cause you from the city and all that, you know, so to speak, fairly of it, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

But you did disrespect the culture.

Speaker A:

And when they came at you, you stood your ground.

Speaker A:

You stood your ground and you got down.

Speaker A:

You found.

Speaker A:

Which I respect.

Speaker A:

And she stayed there and said, I'm not leaving nowhere, period.

Speaker A:

I want each and every one of them head up by myself.

Speaker A:

I respect that.

Speaker A:

I love her, I respect that so much.

Speaker B:

And she dared it.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna hold her.

Speaker B:

She got with they ass.

Speaker A:

I respect it all the way.

Speaker B:

No, like dead ass.

Speaker B:

Well, listen, I'm extremely glad that you know one.

Speaker B:

You just educated me.

Speaker B:

Cause you know, I didn't know, me being from Oakland, you know, we don't really gang banging.

Speaker B:

I'm not out in the streets, I'm an og, so I don't really know a lot about the gang bang culture, you know.

Speaker B:

So you definitely just educated me and you know, and then the world, like people need to know that these are questions that people don't know.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

When you sit here playing around.

Speaker A:

I've seen a individual from, I think he was from dc, which of course we don't.

Speaker A:

The dmv, we don't put with Baltimore.

Speaker A:

But he's dc, I learned that myself.

Speaker A:

So he was, he was parked in, he was parked in a park and he got banged on and he, you know, I mean, just doing that.

Speaker A:

And he said something educational.

Speaker A:

He said, dang, they didn't say nothing to this white guy that's sitting over here in his car.

Speaker A:

But they said something to me that's.

Speaker A:

You got high.

Speaker A:

A great point, I understand that.

Speaker A:

But at the same time, don't stare down no in no park in LA that you sit here just parked in and you don't know eye contact.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like don't, you know, start doing a little history of where you going and what you at.

Speaker A:

Like, is this an active territory?

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Yeah, they not finna sit here and trip on this white man that they think is the cops, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Or think that, you know, as soon as we do something here, they gonna put the, the whole RICO on the hood, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

But just the same thing, the ones that are still in that world, in society, they're definitely going to be high alert to another that's there that they don't.

Speaker A:

Not familiar with.

Speaker A:

And you have to be educated to that, just like I told you.

Speaker A:

It's what I personally feel that we shouldn't have this problem, but the culture still lives and I would not, I would not see a difference of it in my time living in this world.

Speaker B:

I don't think it'll ever die, to be honest with you.

Speaker A:

That's nothing to think negative of, but I just don't see a difference.

Speaker A:

So these individuals who are different worlds across the world don't come to no place in LA and feel like I'm a post up at a park and stare down a who's a gang banger and feel like you gonna be in anywhere safe.

Speaker A:

Like, come on.

Speaker A:

Common sense.

Speaker B:

Like some people just don't have that.

Speaker A:

You gonna get checked.

Speaker B:

Definitely ain't.

Speaker B:

I was scared at 17 walking down this whoop, whoops.

Speaker B:

And I said, what the is that noise?

Speaker B:

Ain't no birds over here, is it?

Speaker B:

Is they call?

Speaker B:

Cause I'm scared to fucking death.

Speaker B:

I'm from Oakland.

Speaker B:

We don't know shit.

Speaker B:

Excuse us.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I just don't fuck with it.

Speaker A:

You gonna get checked.

Speaker B:

So you know what?

Speaker B:

I was also looking, you know, I was like, you need to be taking care of yourself.

Speaker B:

I seen you said something in:

Speaker A:

Yes, I did.

Speaker B:

And why was that?

Speaker B:

Are you over?

Speaker B:

Was you playing too much poker?

Speaker A:

Nah.

Speaker B:

Was that night you lost too much money?

Speaker B:

What the fuck happened, cuz?

Speaker A:

Like, it's a good, it's a good question.

Speaker B:

Now I don't feel comfort, cuz or bro or what the fuck do I say?

Speaker A:

You good with me?

Speaker A:

Said cuz you good with me.

Speaker A:

You good with me.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I did, I did, I did.

Speaker A:

I was in Australia.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And I had a situation in the casino.

Speaker A:

It's crazy you said that when it happened.

Speaker A:

I was inside the casino.

Speaker A:

Oh my God.

Speaker A:

It's funny, you Said that.

Speaker A:

So I had a heart attack.

Speaker A:

And I was inside the casino.

Speaker A:

I walked, I smoked.

Speaker A:

To give you full transparency, I got.

Speaker B:

High or a cigarette or a weed.

Speaker A:

I just only smoke weed now.

Speaker A:

That's the twist of it.

Speaker A:

So we'll get it back to that.

Speaker A:

Smoke some weed that I got from.

Speaker B:

Australia, nigga, what the hell's wrong with you?

Speaker B:

Are you serious?

Speaker A:

Oh, definitely not taking over there you get, man, we gonna be sitting in that customs jail cell waiting for the embassy.

Speaker B:

But even smoking they weed, yeah, these.

Speaker A:

Individuals I trust, I trusted, to be honest with you.

Speaker A:

e been going over there since:

Speaker A:

So I've been going over there for over 10, maybe even 12 years, maybe even more longer than that.

Speaker A:

And I got individuals that I actually would call family over there that, you know, just fellas that just became so close to me and seen me so many times and actually just roll with me.

Speaker A:

Like individuals that, like, hey, I'm finna just fly wherever you fly to make sure that you straight.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And it's not to sit there, say that it's needed to be, but they just have love for me.

Speaker A:

And I was given some.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

But did I smoke days prior to that, to where me and that individual who gave me some looked at it and we were like.

Speaker A:

Like, yeah, I'm cool.

Speaker A:

And we just threw it on the floor, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And I'm saying this to sit here and say what it could have been.

Speaker A:

It could have been accumulative, a lot of things.

Speaker A:

Only thing that I should sit there and say is I'm thankful as far as in the situation I got to.

Speaker A:

And I'm gonna explain how that happened.

Speaker A:

Walked down the street from smoking.

Speaker A:

I was in a high rise.

Speaker A:

Walked down the street.

Speaker A:

Me and DJ Yellow was there on a tour, Walked down the street, went to the casino, sat down, and I broke out in the sweats.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, what's going on now?

Speaker A:

To be fair, this situation happened to me a long, like, couple of months before, and I bypassed it.

Speaker A:

As black man, that's what we do.

Speaker A:

So my.

Speaker A:

My point of education to people, educating people, is don't ignore something that's abnormal with your body and do not wait to go get checked out or check absolutely when it's too late, because I'm going to be real and transparent with that, which is the only thing that I can be in life is real.

Speaker A:

Whenever, platform, or any place that you see me walking around is just truthful, I ignored it.

Speaker A:

Twice.

Speaker A:

It happened twice.

Speaker A:

And it didn't happen to the extent of this, but I felt, I basically called home and I said, I'm feeling that thing again.

Speaker A:

So I felt it before smoking, drinking, being in outside environment.

Speaker A:

And I bypassed it.

Speaker A:

One time I bypassed it and I thought, damn, somebody put something in my drink.

Speaker A:

And I threw up, shook it off.

Speaker A:

My boy like, you drunk too much, Said, no, I had one drink.

Speaker A:

I was in Detroit and my partner, he'll see this podcast, he knows who it is.

Speaker A:

Sloane, bone lazy's brother.

Speaker A:

And he was like, you cool?

Speaker A:

I went back to my hotel in Detroit, laid down for a while and it went away.

Speaker A:

It was like a tightening here.

Speaker A:

And then I threw up.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, man, I don't know why, I feel weird, like, damn.

Speaker A:

And somebody brought me a drink.

Speaker A:

My grandma always told you, don't let.

Speaker A:

No, don't sit your drink down there and don't let nobody bring you.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

So all kind of things in my head goes on and especially with a person who father is a highlighted individual and technically, quote unquote, we feel somebody did something to him.

Speaker A:

So my mind is always going to be on that.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, damn, you did something that you knew better not to do.

Speaker A:

You took a drink from somebody that brought it from the bar.

Speaker A:

Just, that's how my lifestyle is.

Speaker A:

I just don't do certain shit, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Not even my mindset.

Speaker A:

I just don't do certain shit.

Speaker A:

You're not going to bring me a drink.

Speaker A:

I want to see the drink being poured.

Speaker B:

Unless it's me too.

Speaker A:

Family, cousin, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Lady, my lady or anything.

Speaker A:

But in the midst of something, oh, cool.

Speaker B:

Eat Woo.

Speaker A:

Dude, I got a drink for you and you're gonna go bring it to me.

Speaker A:

And I did that.

Speaker A:

So my mind thinking like something was weird with this, bypassed it.

Speaker A:

Then I'm at home, I get high, I work out, happen again, I'm on the way to the hospital.

Speaker A:

Then when I get halfway to the hospital, it stop.

Speaker A:

And as a black man, black that I'm not going, why I'm not gonna go in there high.

Speaker A:

First thing they're going to sit there and say is like, damn, it's something with weed.

Speaker A:

Now we're going fast forward to Australia.

Speaker A:

I walk and I said it to myself and I called home and I said, I'm feeling that same thing again.

Speaker A:

This time I broke out in sweats.

Speaker A:

I'm like, damn, this never happened.

Speaker A:

And I go to the bathroom, I kind of like, spit up or throw up, and it goes away.

Speaker A:

Same thing.

Speaker A:

I go sit back down.

Speaker A:

I'm playing Texas ultimate hold'.

Speaker A:

Em.

Speaker A:

And I'm playing.

Speaker A:

And then I'm like, damn.

Speaker A:

I pulled my sweater off.

Speaker A:

I was like, damn, I'm sweating a lot again.

Speaker A:

And I went to the bathroom, like, all right.

Speaker A:

I'm feeling like I have to throw up.

Speaker A:

And, you know, most people, once I educated myself with having a heart attack, you feel like you have to throw up.

Speaker A:

And I went to bathroom, and I was in a stall for about 30, 45 minutes to an hour, and I got weak, like, I couldn't grip.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, ah, something's going on.

Speaker A:

So I called a friend of mine and I said, man, he's like, we still going to dinner?

Speaker A:

I said, come get me.

Speaker A:

He's like, what's wrong?

Speaker A:

It's like I'm stuck in a cell.

Speaker A:

I mean, in the bath stall.

Speaker A:

And he like, yeah.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, when you come, just bring me some water.

Speaker A:

So he brought me some water, walked me down.

Speaker A:

I felt better.

Speaker A:

Walked me down the street to a taxi.

Speaker A:

Taxi kicked me out because he thought I was going to throw up.

Speaker B:

Up.

Speaker A:

He explained to the taxi, like, nah, he just.

Speaker A:

He needs to lay down.

Speaker A:

He's like, I'm sorry.

Speaker A:

I'm sorry.

Speaker A:

Took me there.

Speaker A:

I went inside, went up four flights of stairs, went lay down.

Speaker A:

And I'm supposed to go do a promo video with Yella.

Speaker A:

He axes me.

Speaker A:

And this is the significance of God.

Speaker A:

Yella has the stints in his heart.

Speaker A:

Yellow had a heart attack a long time ago.

Speaker B:

So is he around the same age?

Speaker A:

No, yellow is 60, 65, 66.

Speaker A:

DJ Yellow from My dad's group Gotcha.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So he.

Speaker A:

He's like, you cool?

Speaker A:

I said, yeah, I got a headache.

Speaker A:

Didn't tell him nothing.

Speaker A:

Like, I've got a headache.

Speaker A:

I didn't want to alert him.

Speaker A:

And we'll do same small things that we shouldn't do as men.

Speaker A:

Go get checked, you know, don't deny nothing.

Speaker A:

You feeling something, you know, alert individuals.

Speaker A:

Just things that educated me in a situation.

Speaker A:

So he's like, all right, I'll go do it myself.

Speaker A:

You know, you just lay down.

Speaker A:

So when he left, I got up and I went and I went down the street, got an aspirin, and I popped the aspirin, came back, back, felt okay.

Speaker A:

We get up, we got eight more shows in Australia.

Speaker A:

We got 10 more flights, and we get to the airport.

Speaker A:

He's like, your head okay?

Speaker A:

I said, nah, Yellow, you Know what?

Speaker A:

I'm gonna be real with you.

Speaker A:

It was my chest.

Speaker A:

He said, what?

Speaker A:

So he goes in and he goes in his bag because he has these problems.

Speaker A:

And his doctor said, you're feeling this way.

Speaker A:

He gave me.

Speaker A:

Damn, it's on the tip of my tongue, basically.

Speaker A:

It's on the tip my tongue.

Speaker A:

But basically gave me a little pill.

Speaker A:

And it opens up your vowels in your chart.

Speaker A:

Not it's like a nitric, nitric, some oxide.

Speaker A:

And he said, put it on your tongue and you'll feel like, you know, this is what it's supposed to do.

Speaker A:

But they told me if I ever have a heart attack again to use this.

Speaker A:

You don't take three over a 15 minute period and this should relax you.

Speaker A:

And he said, do that.

Speaker A:

And I did it.

Speaker A:

And I felt cool.

Speaker A:

I took a flight.

Speaker A:

So we get to maybe our.

Speaker A:

Like, I fly to an island.

Speaker A:

Tiwi Island.

Speaker A:

I fly everything.

Speaker A:

Didn't feel nothing.

Speaker A:

Later that night, I laid down flat on the couch and it happened again.

Speaker A:

And it was just pain.

Speaker A:

So long story short, that whole entire time, I went through a heart attack and my whole left side of my artery was closed.

Speaker A:

So that night, our nights throughout there, I couldn't sleep for seven nights straight.

Speaker A:

Straight.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

Couldn't sleep for seven nights straight.

Speaker A:

Just praying.

Speaker A:

I popped them things like a skittle.

Speaker A:

And he, when he.

Speaker A:

When he said, why don't you tell me?

Speaker A:

I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker A:

I don't want to worry again.

Speaker A:

He like, yeah, once you do that, they said you pop three and it does not stop.

Speaker A:

You call the ambulance and you go straight to the hospital.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

So a week later, I fly home.

Speaker A:

I've been all right.

Speaker A:

I didn't perform one time, I performed.

Speaker B:

You still didn't go to the hospital?

Speaker A:

No, I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm telling you.

Speaker A:

So I performed and I was.

Speaker A:

Was just out of breath and I knew something was wrong.

Speaker A:

And I'm like.

Speaker A:

When he looked at me and he's like, you want me to shorten it?

Speaker A:

I'm like, yeah.

Speaker A:

And I got through it.

Speaker A:

Five days later, I go home.

Speaker A:

I've been feeling all right.

Speaker A:

17 hour flight.

Speaker A:

I get home and I tell my grandmother.

Speaker A:

I'm like, I give her a hug and I get emotional.

Speaker A:

She's like, what's wrong?

Speaker A:

I'm like, nah, I just miss you.

Speaker A:

She's like, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker A:

I'm like, nah, mom, I miss you.

Speaker A:

She's like, she stopped me me.

Speaker A:

What's wrong?

Speaker A:

I said, well, I couldn't sleep for over A week, because I had this pain chest.

Speaker A:

Now she has congestive heart failure.

Speaker A:

So she kind of, you know, telling it.

Speaker A:

I didn't want to alert her.

Speaker A:

And she said it.

Speaker A:

She's like, well, come on, let's eat.

Speaker A:

And when you finish eating, go to the hospital.

Speaker A:

And I went and I laid down and I was able to sleep.

Speaker A:

But when you sleep educated, it's things that you can educate yourself with.

Speaker A:

I only can sleep sitting up like this.

Speaker A:

So I went to sleep.

Speaker A:

Sleep.

Speaker A:

And I only can sleep for, like, two hours in those seven days that I didn't sleep like this.

Speaker A:

Anytime I'm like, all right, cool.

Speaker A:

I'm feeling all right.

Speaker A:

Let me go lay down.

Speaker A:

You're shutting off the oxygen to your.

Speaker A:

To your.

Speaker A:

To your.

Speaker A:

Your.

Speaker A:

Basically, your lungs, everything when you lay flat.

Speaker A:

So I only can lay like this.

Speaker A:

Walk in, and I tell him, yeah, I has a little problem.

Speaker A:

And he was like, do you feel it now?

Speaker A:

I'm like, no, I like.

Speaker A:

But I just wanted to check it.

Speaker A:

You feel.

Speaker A:

I'm saying, because it was.

Speaker A:

It was ongoing for a long time.

Speaker A:

Time.

Speaker A:

So he's like, okay, cool, we'll come back, we'll do an EKG on you, and we'll call you.

Speaker A:

Here, take this.

Speaker A:

And, you know, give us a little urine test and all that and the other.

Speaker A:

So they called me quickly, did an ekg.

Speaker A:

When they did ekg, they brought a wheelchair in.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, they're like, they want you to sit down.

Speaker A:

I'm like, I'm cool.

Speaker A:

You know, I just walked in here and walked into the emergency.

Speaker A:

You're like, yeah, but the doctor don't want you to walk.

Speaker A:

I walked back.

Speaker A:

They put me in a wheelchair, went back.

Speaker A:

There's 10 doctors there.

Speaker A:

They put all kind of on me and doing all this other thing.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, man, what's going on?

Speaker A:

So when they left out, they asked me all kind of questions, and they like, you walked in here.

Speaker A:

I'm like, yeah, left out.

Speaker A:

The nurse was like, I don't want to alert you, but do you have family that could come?

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, like, they'll be here after work.

Speaker A:

And they were like, I like, but what's.

Speaker A:

Like, what's wrong?

Speaker A:

Like, well, he doesn't like what he sees.

Speaker A:

And to be real, like, he'll come in here, but they're just alert from what they see.

Speaker A:

So he came in there, and they couldn't.

Speaker A:

There was Kaiser.

Speaker A:

They couldn't.

Speaker A:

He didn't.

Speaker A:

He wanted a.

Speaker A:

A Second opinion on my ekg.

Speaker A:

And he was waiting on it, and he's like, but even if it is what it is, we can't do what we can't do for you here.

Speaker A:

So we're going to transport you to another hospital.

Speaker A:

And so they transferred another hospital to where he got that second opinion, which was a cardiologist.

Speaker A:

When I got to that, the hospital cardiologist, just immediately that they caught me in there, they start ripping my clothes off.

Speaker A:

Like, you're going into surgery.

Speaker A:

So when he comes in there, he's like, yeah, you had a heart attack.

Speaker A:

And he says, your whole right side of your chest is closed.

Speaker A:

And he showed me.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And he's like, we're going under.

Speaker A:

So they went through surgery, they went through my groin, which is the main artery for men, and they went to declog everything out of there.

Speaker A:

And as they're doing that, I'm up.

Speaker A:

So they only numb the bottom side and I'm.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

He says, I don't know how he made it home alive.

Speaker B:

Oh, gosh.

Speaker A:

He's like, he took a 17 hour flight, but this happened over a week ago.

Speaker A:

So the elevation should have put me out for 17 hours that I flew.

Speaker A:

But not only just take that flight, he took seven different flights.

Speaker A:

And he's like, I don't know how this guy made it home, but somebody, you know is, is.

Speaker A:

Is praying for him.

Speaker A:

And I went through that, got four stints, stints.

Speaker A:

So a surgery that takes 30 minutes.

Speaker A:

It took two hours for me.

Speaker A:

Surgery that goes with two stints.

Speaker A:

I got four.

Speaker A:

And they, you know, did, they did what they did come out of recovery and I'm in ICU for like about a, a week.

Speaker A:

Then I remember it because I was thinking about it the other day, I was like, damn.

Speaker A:

I remember that doctor was like, like, they think that you're the best patient because ICU is all people who can't function.

Speaker A:

And I'm walking around and all this, that and the other.

Speaker A:

So other than that came down to a lot of things that you could put in your head.

Speaker A:

It happened a while ago.

Speaker A:

Did I tell them that?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

You know, getting yourself checked out and everything.

Speaker A:

And the other, when you feel anything is wrong, do I have a history, a family history?

Speaker A:

So me as my education is knowing is like when they ask you that as a doctor, they're not asking you that it's hereditary.

Speaker A:

They're saying, if you eat this way, your kids are going to eat this way.

Speaker A:

That's what hereditary means.

Speaker A:

And that's what I got educated to know if you eat this way, they eat this way.

Speaker A:

So do you have a family history of this because of how this person raised you is commonly how you ate.

Speaker A:

Regardless in your time of life, even if you got older and you started changing, this is what you did.

Speaker A:

So it could be a cholesterol habit, a problem.

Speaker A:

It could be high blood pressure.

Speaker A:

Because I did have high blood pressure.

Speaker A:

We tore that it can.

Speaker A:

I'm not diabetic.

Speaker A:

So my blood was good for diabetic, which I was like, because why diabetic runs my family.

Speaker A:

You know, it's cholesterol.

Speaker A:

This, then the other.

Speaker A:

And then they brought it down to do you smoke?

Speaker A:

And I'm, you know, sorry to sit there say people of how they feel is like, yeah, well that's what it is.

Speaker A:

Why?

Speaker A:

Because you're the, the 10th person that came here at your age that had this problem of a heart attack.

Speaker A:

And all of you.

Speaker A:

Did all of you guys smoke weed?

Speaker A:

And he got educated me.

Speaker A:

They're not growing it like they grew it.

Speaker B:

Oh no.

Speaker A:

So it's.

Speaker A:

It could be all that.

Speaker A:

So in my mind, I feel like whatever it was in, in, in.

Speaker A:

In.

Speaker A:

In Australia just closed it.

Speaker A:

Can I say that whatever it was just.

Speaker A:

Was a problem of smoking it?

Speaker A:

No, but probably whatever it was, how they probably grew it, closed it.

Speaker A:

But I think the problem was lingering on the things that I didn't go get checked out or be alert with.

Speaker A:

So you never.

Speaker A:

I. I can't fully sit here pinpointed as far as on what it is or why it is.

Speaker A:

You know.

Speaker A:

The only thing I'd be thankful for is what I prayed for happened and I got home, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And six months after I got the surgery, I came back with flying colors of no cholesterol.

Speaker A:

Got off the blood pressure pills, got off the cholesterol pills.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I do have to take thinner because I do have a stent.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

But did everything that I was supposed to do with myself to get myself healthy, to sit here and not be stuck on their thing.

Speaker A:

And for him to give me a report.

Speaker A:

Like if you had.

Speaker A:

If they told me you had a heart attack, I would never know that, Eric.

Speaker A:

So whatever you're doing, do what you do, and that's all I could be thankful thankful for.

Speaker A:

Can I give everybody a.

Speaker A:

A strong reason of what it is?

Speaker A:

But cholesterol is a absolutely high blood pressure is a silent killer.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So you do have to control Those you feel I'm saying, in a sense.

Speaker A:

And like they said, you gotta eat right.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And the smoking on top of all that didn't make it any better.

Speaker A:

Can I sit here and like most people sit there, say, I'm not gonna sit here.

Speaker A:

Pointed to marijuana being his, like, only thing, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I can look at it and say, damn, this fat ass nigga is smoking all day.

Speaker A:

But I stopped and you know what I mean, because of the fact that it's so choice.

Speaker A:

You wouldn't, you.

Speaker A:

I wouldn't know.

Speaker A:

I cannot put it on one sole thing.

Speaker A:

But when you have all these things that accumulate in one, you feel I'm saying it's not gonna be good for your body.

Speaker A:

And if you do not ever go get yourself a physical, which like now I go every six months to get a physical.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Blood work, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

You would not know things.

Speaker A:

So it's.

Speaker A:

It just, it made me better, you feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Because of the fact of us as black man, we won't go.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

You will not go.

Speaker A:

I think all men.

Speaker A:

It ain't just black men.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Yeah, right.

Speaker A:

You know, you won't go and sit here and find out like, oh, well, I've been having this, I've been having that.

Speaker A:

Like, or I could go get this prostate, you know, check at 50 when.

Speaker A:

If you feel anything, go, go, go.

Speaker A:

Because if they could catch it early, you found there's most things that they could sit here and just brush off instead of sitting here giving you this full fledged surgery to see her clear, clear certain tumors and everything.

Speaker A:

So it just educated me with our health and doing things.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Because what I. I don't question it because I.

Speaker A:

What I asked for, he gave me.

Speaker B:

Which is life again.

Speaker A:

Life.

Speaker A:

Go home.

Speaker A:

I want to.

Speaker A:

I want to make it home.

Speaker A:

Did you quit smoking?

Speaker A:

Like a. I ain't smoked in.

Speaker B:

I love that there.

Speaker A:

Two and a half, three years, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Good for you.

Speaker B:

I quit about four years ago too.

Speaker B:

I smoked.

Speaker B:

I live without a blunt and.

Speaker A:

Yeah, well, they told me I couldn't do it no more.

Speaker A:

I couldn't be around.

Speaker A:

I couldn't do it no more.

Speaker A:

I just.

Speaker A:

I got kids to live for, so, you know, I mean, so like, it ain't that serious.

Speaker A:

So I left it alone, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So left the, the salt alone, left the this, that and the other alone.

Speaker A:

Only thing that I went back because I was like, I Was tripping, especially because I've been a pescatarian for nine years.

Speaker A:

So I'm asking myself like, like how, like I'll leave the red meat.

Speaker A:

I don't do that.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, I mean, but then it's like, now I go educate myself because most doctors just gonna tell you this, that and the other.

Speaker A:

And what I respect to my cardiologist is when I got down my cholesterol to 65, life the levels of 65, he said, you're great, but I want you to be better.

Speaker A:

Because why In Europe, it's 55.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker A:

America has so much up standards on cholesterol, what they feel cholesterol is.

Speaker A:

And I respected them now because how many doctors gonna tell you America has a bad standard with that?

Speaker A:

So I want yours to go lower than what it is.

Speaker A:

Whatever you're doing, do it.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, damn, I dined on that.

Speaker A:

But again, when I travel, I'm like, like, they don't have half the up we have over here.

Speaker B:

Australia food.

Speaker B:

Did you see all them chips they got?

Speaker B:

I ain't never seen wasabi.

Speaker A:

And it's not with all that bad stuff, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So only in America.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Just again, educated me to what to eat, right?

Speaker A:

How to.

Speaker A:

With our body, what we can do.

Speaker A:

I was thinking.

Speaker A:

I was telling her, the average American have 25 milligram, 2,500 milligrams of sodium.

Speaker A:

You know, individual.

Speaker A:

My situation is 15, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

But again, 25 milligrams of sodium for the average American makes them like American overweight, You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So it just.

Speaker A:

It just programmed me to be in a better situation.

Speaker A:

And again, like I just say, I just give all praise to God because I'm thankful that you got me here and I got educated of what.

Speaker A:

What not to do for my body.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Keep the temple that I gave you and take care of it.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So that's what I do.

Speaker A:

So again, I don't know what it all is, but I can sit here and tell you, these are the things that people need to watch out.

Speaker A:

It's like I tell my kids, stop eating so much of that baby.

Speaker A:

All this fried food, it's good to do in moderation.

Speaker A:

But us as African American, we was raised all off of it.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

We probably gonna do it three or four or five times a day.

Speaker A:

And the only reason why I went back to red meat is because now here they come and say, you know, thank you put it on point.

Speaker A:

And once they said that, I'm like, check this out.

Speaker A:

And I told him when I got in there, I told him, I'm doing whatever I can to get off of this.

Speaker A:

This medication that y' all have.

Speaker A:

I do not want to sit here and do this.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

So whatever strenuousness that I have to go through of discipline, I'm gonna do it, because I'm gonna tell you, you're not gonna give me this in three months.

Speaker A:

And in six months, I was off the junk.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And I go get my blood work and everything.

Speaker A:

So they say, oh, you're iron.

Speaker A:

I say, y' all didn't took so much from me.

Speaker A:

You think that.

Speaker A:

You think that it's not.

Speaker B:

Eat more vegetables.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So that's all spinach.

Speaker B:

Spinach is what I'm doing.

Speaker A:

So that's a ton of spinach.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So somebody over here cook me spinach like it's no tomorrow.

Speaker B:

Every day.

Speaker A:

Matter of fact, I even.

Speaker A:

I'd even tell her, like, I ate it raw the other night.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

I was eating raw spinach.

Speaker A:

I had the whole little thing, so.

Speaker A:

And I told him, I do every meat, so I do red meat on the weekends.

Speaker A:

So, like, today, Sunday, I'll do red meat.

Speaker A:

And I was like, you're not gonna give me no.

Speaker A:

No iron pills.

Speaker A:

I'd be damned.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And again, I was mainly looking at all the.

Speaker A:

The necessities of what my family has no diabetes.

Speaker A:

No, that.

Speaker A:

Like, oh, Eric, you're in a clear of that Could.

Speaker A:

That's what I want to.

Speaker A:

Because why I was a.

Speaker A:

Who can have a sweet tooth, too?

Speaker A:

When you get high, it's like, oh, I want some.

Speaker A:

Some cake.

Speaker A:

I want this.

Speaker A:

I want this.

Speaker A:

I want this.

Speaker A:

So all the things that I worry about, it was good.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And all the things that were.

Speaker A:

That got me into that situation was I got better.

Speaker A:

And, you know, just like I say, dude, I don't do it once a year.

Speaker A:

I do every six months to get my good for blood work.

Speaker A:

And you can see so you can stay safe.

Speaker A:

And that's why I always sit there, tell certain people, you want to see my panel?

Speaker A:

I'm getting it all the time.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So that's it.

Speaker A:

Other than that, like I said, I'm just grateful that I am.

Speaker A:

I wanted to sit here and give that post to educate individuals that, you know, as black men, we need to go get checked out.

Speaker A:

They're Just worried that something is wrong.

Speaker B:

Get checked, Percy.

Speaker A:

Don't just worry.

Speaker A:

Yeah, very good, brother.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And just don't do it because you feel like, oh, something wrong.

Speaker A:

And I'm going there late.

Speaker A:

Like, hey, stay on top of it.

Speaker A:

Because the food that we had is up the.

Speaker A:

That you're doing can be a bad habit.

Speaker A:

It's not woo too.

Speaker A:

Nobody even standing core.

Speaker A:

We're not perfect.

Speaker A:

And that heifer that you might be dealing with might be just a little bad.

Speaker B:

We gonna call it.

Speaker B:

And for the ladies.

Speaker B:

Got you.

Speaker B:

And for the ladies, make sure y' all get breast exams as well.

Speaker A:

Seriously, just like.

Speaker A:

Just like the colon thing.

Speaker A:

So I was telling the person, like, oh, I can wait till like 45.

Speaker A:

And then I get educated.

Speaker A:

Then like AE.

Speaker A:

You can go.

Speaker A:

Because I had a friend of mine, not gonna say his name, but very popular individual.

Speaker A:

He went and he went at the time that he thought and said, hey.

Speaker A:

It was there.

Speaker A:

Which was a tad bit early E. But they was able to just brush it or clip it off.

Speaker A:

Clip it off.

Speaker A:

But it was growing.

Speaker A:

It was growing.

Speaker A:

So if you could go early and they see it growing, they could just cut it in there instead of you going through a full fledged.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

The outburst.

Speaker B:

And don't let the doctors make you feel like.

Speaker B:

Because they'll try to convince you too.

Speaker B:

Wait till you're not supposed to do it to.

Speaker B:

No, no, no, no, listen, don't listen.

Speaker B:

Get checked, eat right, try to work out.

Speaker B:

Because I was always told if you don't use it, you'll lose it.

Speaker B:

And that is facts.

Speaker B:

Your legs hurt, your back hurt and all that good shit.

Speaker B:

But I'm proud of you for taking care of yourself.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And like you say, your legs too.

Speaker A:

You got to people individual neuropathy.

Speaker A:

We gotta do some cardio.

Speaker A:

Whatever you gotta do.

Speaker A:

Do you some.

Speaker A:

Do you some.

Speaker A:

Do you some extracurricular activities?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

It's not good to not do it.

Speaker B:

Like, I do not.

Speaker A:

I do three and a half, four miles a day.

Speaker B:

Oh, you got me wavy.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Listen, but you could just walk.

Speaker A:

People could think like, hey, you just gotta run.

Speaker A:

You just walk.

Speaker A:

You just walk because you gotta move.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

The pumping that's coming up here is.

Speaker A:

Is programmed from your calves, so if you continuously have them working, you'll keep to sit there.

Speaker A:

The.

Speaker A:

The normal blood flow of your body, you feel.

Speaker A:

I mean, so that's what you have.

Speaker A:

That's why you look at most of these countries where they're walking so much you know, they don't got a car and they're walking.

Speaker A:

They're more overweight you.

Speaker A:

And they're not overweight exactly.

Speaker A:

They're.

Speaker B:

They're not even the bay.

Speaker B:

The.

Speaker B:

I think United States is because, like.

Speaker A:

You said, the food.

Speaker A:

Overly overweight.

Speaker B:

But I don't want to be too thin, skinny, though.

Speaker B:

I just want to be healthy.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, that's how your people come out, like eating.

Speaker A:

And you're all right.

Speaker A:

You're losing a lot of weight.

Speaker A:

I see you do that.

Speaker A:

That little post.

Speaker A:

You all right?

Speaker A:

I got to stay all right.

Speaker A:

I got to stay healthy.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker A:

Like when you were seeing me, you didn't want to tell me I was too big.

Speaker A:

That now you want to tell me I'm small.

Speaker A:

You shrinking looking all right?

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm all right.

Speaker A:

I'm trying to see her live by.

Speaker A:

I'm trying to see 80 plus, period.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Healthily.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

But when I was over here with a thick old neck and that double A chin, you said, goody.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You didn't say, oh, you eating.

Speaker A:

You looking, you eating.

Speaker A:

I. I know you making some money now.

Speaker A:

I'm eating too much.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Well, listen, E, I'm just beyond grateful you came, shared your story.

Speaker A:

Appreciate it.

Speaker B:

We definitely finna hit that poker table.

Speaker B:

Lord.

Speaker B:

But it's out of California.

Speaker B:

But I wanted to gift you, you know, the routine.

Speaker B:

Look under your chair.

Speaker A:

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker B:

What is something under that chair?

Speaker B:

Did you see it?

Speaker B:

Can you see it?

Speaker B:

Can you reach it?

Speaker B:

You might got a little extended arm.

Speaker B:

There you go.

Speaker B:

Of course, we gotta bless you with the massage.

Speaker B:

You probably got every color like me, but at least you got another one.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Get you a copy of the book.

Speaker B:

And I just wanted, you know, I thank you for your travels.

Speaker B:

First off, you bless the platform, and we family, y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker A:

I'm excited.

Speaker B:

Shout out to your girl.

Speaker A:

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker A:

My goodness.

Speaker A:

Okay, I fit to read this from ho to CEO.

Speaker B:

Please read that.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

Duh.

Speaker B:

From the bay.

Speaker B:

Listen, I got a copy for you too, sis.

Speaker B:

I want to give it to you, but we want to thank you for coming to turning your hustle into a legacy.

Speaker B:

You are a real legend.

Speaker A:

I appreciate that.

Speaker B:

Real legend in the building.

Speaker B:

Y' all follow your girl.

Speaker B:

And thank you for coming.

Speaker A:

Oh, it's a pleasure.

Speaker A:

It's a pleasure.

Speaker B:

Dr. St.

Speaker B:

Turning your hustle to a legacy with Lil Easy.

Speaker B:

Let's go.

Speaker A:

Most definitely.

Speaker B:

We out.

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About the Podcast

Turning Hustle Into Legacy with Dr. Stance
Turning Hustle Into Legacy is a purpose-driven podcast hosted by Dr. Stance, entrepreneur, visionary, and leader in impact-focused business. The show dives into what it truly takes to build success that lasts—financially, personally, and generationally. Each episode features honest, in-depth conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, and community leaders who are redefining success on their own terms. Guests unpack the real stories behind their journeys—from side hustles to scalable brands, from setbacks to breakthroughs—sharing the mindset, strategies, and discipline required to turn ambition into meaningful impact. With no fluff and no filters, Turning Hustle Into Legacy delivers raw insight, actionable lessons, and powerful perspectives on leadership, resilience, and growth. Whether you’re launching a business, scaling a brand, or stepping into your next level of purpose, this podcast provides the clarity and momentum needed to build something that outlives the grind. This is where hustle becomes legacy.

About your host

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Dr. Audra Stance

Education & Professional Background

Dr. Stance holds a Ph.D. in Psychology with a concentration in Trauma-Informed Care, providing a strong clinical and academic foundation for the work led across all programs and initiatives. This advanced training informs Dr. Stance’s approach to mental health advocacy, foster care reform, mentorship, and community-based services, ensuring practices are evidence-informed, ethically grounded, and responsive to the impacts of trauma.

Dr. Stance’s work is deeply informed by lived experience shaped by childhood trauma, providing a personal and empathetic understanding of the challenges faced by foster youth and system-impacted individuals. Having navigated early adversity, instability, and the long-term effects of trauma, Dr. Stance brings both professional expertise and personal insight to the development of programs that prioritize safety, trust, and empowerment. This lived experience strengthens Dr. Stance’s connection to foster youth and individuals in care, allowing for services that are not only clinically sound but also grounded in compassion, relatability, and authenticity. Rather than approaching trauma from theory alone, Dr. Stance integrates real-world understanding into mentorship, program design, and leadership—ensuring individuals feel seen, supported, and capable of growth beyond their circumstances.

Dr. Stance is a purpose-driven leader, author, and mental health advocate dedicated to transforming hustle into sustainable legacy. As the founder and CEO of the non-profit, BWIT Luxurious Fostering, Dr. Stance is redefining trauma-informed care for foster youth and adults through dignity, structure, and empowerment. Dr. Stance is the creator and host of the podcast Turning Hustle Into Legacy, where discipline, faith, mindset, and leadership intersect to build generational impact. An author of From a Hoe to C.E.O., Dr. Stance uses lived experience, mentorship, and mental health advocacy to help individuals move from survival to purpose.