OP from Warner Records: Building a Legacy Beyond the Music
OP is diving deep into the nitty-gritty of transforming hustle into a legacy on this episode of the Dr. Stance Podcast. He’s not just about the glitz and glam of the music industry; he's here to share the real grind behind the hits. From balancing artistry with business savvy to flipping challenges into golden opportunities, OP spills the beans on the mindset and discipline required to not just build a career, but create something that lasts longer than fleeting fame. Whether you’re an aspiring artist or just someone looking to level up in life, his insights are packed with wisdom and a sprinkle of humor. So, grab your headphones and get ready to soak in some serious inspiration!
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Yo, what up, man?
Speaker A:It's your boy Op and I'm on the BWIT podcast, and we turning Hustle into a legacy.
Speaker B:What's up?
Speaker B:What's up?
Speaker B:What's up?
Speaker B:Thank y' all for tuning in with Dr. Stan's turning Yo Hustle into a legacy.
Speaker B:I have the infamous op in the building.
Speaker B:If you don't know, you gonna know.
Speaker B:You better know.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:This man is a legend.
Speaker B:For me, at least.
Speaker B:We met long time ago through a mutual friend, right?
Speaker B:He say he don't remember, but I do.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:At old school.
Speaker B:Leash at the club.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:You actually bought me a drink.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And it was good.
Speaker B:So that was that.
Speaker B:But my guy.
Speaker B:Welcome.
Speaker A:How are you?
Speaker A:How are you?
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker B:You look nice.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You look fabulous.
Speaker B:Put.
Speaker B:Show the man.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker B:We like fashion here at Bewit Podcast.
Speaker B:Let's just keep it 100.
Speaker B:But I wanted to get in.
Speaker B:I want.
Speaker B:I know you're a girl, dad, correct?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Let's talk about it.
Speaker B:What it's like.
Speaker B:Like, what's that relationship with that baby mama?
Speaker B:Is it hard being a father?
Speaker B:How old is your daughter?
Speaker A:My daughter's 17.
Speaker A:Senior in high school.
Speaker B:Oh, mine too.
Speaker B:How is that?
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, it wasn't too bad, you know.
Speaker A:You know, as a father, you know, you have your ups and downs with your kid's mom.
Speaker A:When it first starts, of course, you know, but as you get older, you know, it's like, okay, let's just figure it out.
Speaker A:There's no need to go nip tivitat, you know, let's co parent, you know?
Speaker A:You know, me and my daughter, relationship has always been good.
Speaker A:You know, sometimes you have shaky times with your kid.
Speaker A:Cause, you know, I be traveling, I be gone a lot, but sometimes the communication might be off sometimes.
Speaker A:So, you know, right now, we're good.
Speaker A:We always been good.
Speaker A:That's my firstborn, my baby.
Speaker B:How many you have?
Speaker A:I have a son.
Speaker A:Seven.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So that's fresh.
Speaker B:I like that, junior.
Speaker B:You waited 10 more years.
Speaker B:I listened.
Speaker B:I was one and done.
Speaker B:You know, it's hard being a parent.
Speaker B:Let's just be real.
Speaker B:It's not easy.
Speaker A:Nah, nah, definitely not.
Speaker A:That's why I love single moms.
Speaker A:I can't even.
Speaker A:I can't even be mad at it because, you know, before I got into a relationship, you know, my girl's a single mother, you know, so she's strong.
Speaker A:You know, just sitting there watching how she do it.
Speaker A:I'm like, man, even seeing it before that and seeing your friends, that single Mothers, like, man, y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:Y' all go through a lot.
Speaker A:You know, they don't get a lot of praise for that.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:But I gotta give y' all praise because y' all do everything.
Speaker A:It's not y' all the father, the mama, make sure they do this, make sure it's that.
Speaker A:So it's like.
Speaker A:It's a lot, you know, so you.
Speaker B:Gotta hold down a job.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Bring in money, you know, It's a lot.
Speaker B:It's a lot.
Speaker B:It's a lot.
Speaker B:And a lot of women sometimes give up.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Because you know me, my business is foster care.
Speaker B:And so y' all know I always bring that up.
Speaker B:But me dealing with a population 18 to 21, all of their mothers, like I think I said before, they're your age.
Speaker B:I'm 43.
Speaker B:I'll be 44 this year.
Speaker B:So the population is your generation of all the foster youth.
Speaker B:And a lot of them just.
Speaker B:They get.
Speaker B:They get them kids.
Speaker B:It's hard.
Speaker B:So people really don't know the extent of parenting, like a single parent.
Speaker B:And then you have.
Speaker B:It's like a generational curse is no guidance.
Speaker B:So then you bring that same shit to your kid, and now it trinkles down.
Speaker B:And it's just, you know.
Speaker B:But it's just a lot.
Speaker B:But I thank you for shouting out to us single women.
Speaker B:Cause we need that love sometimes, right?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Well, let's talk about you.
Speaker B:Me?
Speaker B:You from.
Speaker B:You said you from the Bay.
Speaker B:Technically, San Francisco, but Richmond.
Speaker B:Hell, but everybody comes to Oakland, like you said.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:They love Oakland, for sure.
Speaker A:You wanna get some game, get some money, man, you come to the town.
Speaker B:Come to the town.
Speaker A:That's just what it is.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker B:And I just remember you said you started as a promoter.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:As a promoter, man.
Speaker A:You know, me and my.
Speaker A:We had a clique back in the day called Flying Flashy Boys.
Speaker A:I like it.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So we in that era of Club 17.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:We in the end of a jillions, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:We in the area of our first Fridays around the corner in that area.
Speaker B:It was thick.
Speaker A:It was thick.
Speaker A:Safe, so.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:It was safe.
Speaker A:So around that time, you know, I worked at a clothing store.
Speaker A: er at a clothing store called: Speaker A:And, you know, everybody in the hood came from Richmond, from Frisco, Oakland.
Speaker A:2020 Fashions had like five or six locations.
Speaker A:Everybody wanted to come to Hilltop because Hilltop had everything.
Speaker B:Everything.
Speaker A:He had, like, nine, 10 shoe stores, clothing stores.
Speaker A:And they knew to come there because we gave deals out, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But it was artists coming through there.
Speaker A:And some of my friends, they was in a rap group called the Diligence, the diligence of the Wolf Pack.
Speaker A:It was the Go Daves.
Speaker A:It was the Team Knox.
Speaker A:It was, you know, Kick the Sneak.
Speaker A:Too short.
Speaker A:It was all them in that era when hyphy started.
Speaker A:So we used to throw parties.
Speaker A:We used to throw a lot of house parties.
Speaker A:Used to throw parties at clubs.
Speaker A:And we always around, you know, entertainment, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:That's kind of how it started.
Speaker A:But I still didn't know what marketing was.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I was like, what is that?
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:So one day, my guy J.N.
Speaker A:shout out to Jay N. J.N.
Speaker A:is a writer for G Eazy.
Speaker A:And I was like, what you doing here?
Speaker A:Because they had Tam Marie in my store.
Speaker A:When the autograph signed this one, she just signed a Jay Z.
Speaker B:Love her.
Speaker A:And then I'm like.
Speaker A:I said, you over here passing flyers.
Speaker A:I was like, what you got going on?
Speaker A:Like, what are you doing?
Speaker A:He said, oh, man.
Speaker A:My man Seth right here.
Speaker A:Do, do, do do promo and go holla at, you know, my peoples over there.
Speaker A:I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker A:Couple weeks go by.
Speaker A:I see Phil Mo Mike, shout out to Phil Mo Mike, okay?
Speaker A:Phil Mike was like, hey, I may go holla at John and Rob over there.
Speaker A:I said, okay.
Speaker A:I said, where is that?
Speaker A:Cross street from the mall.
Speaker A:So, boom, I go across the street.
Speaker A:I'm like, hey, what I gotta do?
Speaker A:It's like, what's this marketing?
Speaker A:What's this promo?
Speaker A:What's this marketing stuff like?
Speaker A:I go in the office, they got, you know, Universal, Jive, Electra, Dev Jam, big time, Interscope.
Speaker A:They had all the big major label accounts that's in the whole West Coast.
Speaker A:So every.
Speaker A:Basically, the company was a big marketing company and a radio company that was contracted with big labels.
Speaker A:So labels come in, they're like, okay, we need you to do promo in our city.
Speaker A:So they had the whole city sold up.
Speaker A:They had radio, they had club, they had all the DJs.
Speaker A:Rod Reyes was a real legend, a real legend in the Bay because he was a DJ and he did a lot of marketing promotions.
Speaker A:Same thing with John Costa.
Speaker A:And he was a big marketing guy.
Speaker A:And he broke a lot of records, you know, inside the Bay Area and in the whole West Coast.
Speaker A:So I was under them.
Speaker A:But then I locked in With a guy named D Train.
Speaker A:With my mentor at the time.
Speaker A:He's still my mentor.
Speaker A:He had Common.
Speaker A:Common was, that's when Common was doing his rapping, his music.
Speaker A:He wasn't in movies yet like that.
Speaker A:And he liked how I was moving around.
Speaker A:He's like, I'm take you, I'm gonna put you under my wing.
Speaker A:So he put me under his wing.
Speaker A:One day he took me on tour.
Speaker A:He said, I need to come on tour.
Speaker A:I said, I ain't got nothing.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm 20.
Speaker A:I'm like, I ain't, I ain't got nothing.
Speaker A:I ain't got no clothes, nothing.
Speaker A:He said, I don't got.
Speaker A:You took me, bought me clothes, shoes, all that.
Speaker A:Moved to LA for like six, seven, eight months.
Speaker A:And he showed me how LA moved.
Speaker B:Which is definitely different.
Speaker A:He showed me how to move around, how to talk to the dj, how to make sure you know this, make sure you know that, know information about him.
Speaker A:Cause you gotta get to know him.
Speaker A:That's the whole thing.
Speaker A:So he made sure I did that.
Speaker A:And just learning all that coming up was like, man, it was a lot.
Speaker A:But then I didn't learn, I didn't know what sacrifice was.
Speaker A:So I had to sacrifice.
Speaker A:You gotta sacrifice some things to get closer to your goal.
Speaker A:And I didn't get that.
Speaker A:It was always an argument between us.
Speaker A:I'm like, why I can't see my kid?
Speaker A:I can't see it.
Speaker A: y daughter birthday, actually: Speaker A:I was on tour with artists for a month.
Speaker A:Ooh, missed the birthday.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:People don't know that that come with that industry.
Speaker A:They do.
Speaker A:And I was like, man, I can't see her.
Speaker A:Da da da.
Speaker A:So then I understood as I got older, I said, yeah, I do gotta sacrifice.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:Cause sometimes you gotta sacrifice and do other things to get further then better their life down the road.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So I kind of got that, I got that.
Speaker B:And sometimes they don't understand that neither.
Speaker A:Children, everything's a sacrifice.
Speaker A:So whatever you do in life is a sacrifice.
Speaker A:You gotta give something up to get to where need to be, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:But just doing that and learning the ropes and yeah, he locked me in and I started getting like label accounts.
Speaker A:I started working with big artists.
Speaker A:So I work, you know, Sada Baby Records.
Speaker A:I work Migos Bad and Bougie.
Speaker A:I worked T Grizzly first day out.
Speaker A:I worked with Lucci Record Wet at Warner Record.
Speaker A:I worked all Sweetie records from my type up now.
Speaker A:I worked.
Speaker A:My first PAC record was Neo and Afro Jack featuring Pit Bull.
Speaker A:Really everything tonight.
Speaker A:That was my first pop record with no one on all panels.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was my first pot record.
Speaker A:Shout out to D Train.
Speaker A:Yeah, my first one.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:That's dope as shit, though.
Speaker B:Literally.
Speaker B:That's dope.
Speaker B:No, I'm proud of you because I remember, I'm telling you, you worked your way up.
Speaker B:I've watched you back from the day and you just, you know, moving and grooving and so for you to get that high up, people need to hear that, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:You didn't give up, you sacrificed, you didn't.
Speaker B:You didn't make a kid's, you know, your daughter's birthday.
Speaker B:That hits home.
Speaker B:But to me, God seen your hard work and he landed you where you need to be, which is at the top now, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like you over a lot of superstars.
Speaker B:Warner Brothers, correct?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:And what you do?
Speaker A:Director at Warner Brothers.
Speaker A:So I run all the lifestyle, so I make sure that the DJs in the clubs across the country have our records, not playing our records.
Speaker A:Making sure you're building a lifestyle connection with the DJ and the music and the artist as well.
Speaker A:I also work, you know, marketing, promotion, radios, all things like that, to make sure, you know, everything is covered from the radio standpoint to the club and the street standpoint.
Speaker A:And also make sure, you know, that they have.
Speaker A:That artists are busy.
Speaker A:Make sure that they got the podcast.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:You know, we got a whole team, the urban team.
Speaker A:Shout out to Ron, shout out to Corey, shout out to Melita, shout out to Shanae.
Speaker A:We have a.
Speaker A:And whole other people.
Speaker A:I can't remember right now, but we have a whole team where we come together and make sure that the artist is busy and building a whole story on them, you know, gotta make sure you got the interviews, make sure someone play in the club.
Speaker A:Yeah, make sure you got radio.
Speaker B:It's the whole thing.
Speaker A:She got a pr.
Speaker A:Make sure they clothes look right, manage this look that manager.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Having a good team is where, you.
Speaker B:Know, the legend starts.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker A:Having a good manager, having a good team.
Speaker A:So that's what we all do, man.
Speaker A:We always come together and make sure that we.
Speaker A:We try to break a break artist.
Speaker A:That's the main thing.
Speaker A:Break the artists and get into where they need to go.
Speaker B:You guys are their front center, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:You're the one that gets Them to the top, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:And like you said, having everything's hard work.
Speaker A:It ain't gonna.
Speaker A:It ain't gonna happen overnight, you know?
Speaker A:And that's why you gotta have patience in this game.
Speaker A:You gotta have patience, man, you ain't no patience.
Speaker A:You're gonna.
Speaker A:You gonna crash out.
Speaker A:You gotta have some type of patience, man.
Speaker A:It ain't.
Speaker A:You'll get up like.
Speaker A:You get up like, man, listen, I'm tired of this.
Speaker A:But then you look up like you look up.
Speaker A:You might look this way, look in the sky, read a book, sip some tea, like, you know what?
Speaker B:It ain't that bad.
Speaker A:It ain't that bad.
Speaker A:I'm gonna keep pushing.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I definitely give it.
Speaker A:You know, as humans, we gotta give ourselves reality check.
Speaker A:Like, you know what?
Speaker A:Me too.
Speaker A:We're here for a purpose, man.
Speaker A:We here.
Speaker A:We in this position for a reason.
Speaker B:Do you feel like you found your purpose?
Speaker A:Almost?
Speaker A:Yeah, Almost.
Speaker B:What's missing?
Speaker B:A lot of people on the outside would love to be in your shoes.
Speaker B:And I may.
Speaker B:Even though I guess I can relate.
Speaker B:Cause I feel like I'm living in my purpose, helping the community and the foster youth.
Speaker B:But then look at this.
Speaker B:I created this platform.
Speaker B:I didn't know I'd be doing this shit.
Speaker B:I don't even know.
Speaker B:I just didn't know.
Speaker B:So what do you think you missing as far as at your ending goal?
Speaker B:What's your ending goal?
Speaker B:Cause to me, you just look fly as fuck.
Speaker B:I mean, what else more do we need here?
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, I just, you know, know, you know, you have certain goals you're trying to reach.
Speaker B:Are you saying financially or marketing wise?
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker B:Just hiring your job.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Just hiring my position.
Speaker A:You know, I'm very patient, like, I'm not rushing nothing, but, you know.
Speaker B:What's your sign?
Speaker A:Gemini.
Speaker B:Oh, I love Arison.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker B:Very patient people.
Speaker A:I like to be.
Speaker A:I'm very patient.
Speaker A:So it's like, you know, there's certain things that I want on my list.
Speaker A:I'm very quiet.
Speaker A:I don't tell nobody.
Speaker B:Name one I gotta hear.
Speaker B:You can't say it.
Speaker B:And I say nothing.
Speaker B:Name one.
Speaker B:One.
Speaker B:Because I'm sure it's multiple.
Speaker A:No, I wanna.
Speaker A:People have been asking me to do this for a while.
Speaker A:I think I'm gonna do it.
Speaker A:I'm probably gonna start a label or something.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:I've been seeing.
Speaker B:Do you know I'm lying, You know, stupid as.
Speaker A:But that's just Like, Like, I have an entertainment company.
Speaker A:I have an entertainment company, but I, I just, you know, I always wanted to do it, but I didn't.
Speaker A:But I know it was cost effective, but.
Speaker A:But everybody always attend me.
Speaker A:Like, even.
Speaker A:Even the ma.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Shout out to Carter Black.
Speaker B:Carter Block.
Speaker B:Shout out.
Speaker A:You should start a label.
Speaker A:I said, nah, man, it's a headache.
Speaker A:It's too much.
Speaker A:But, you know, I don't know, I might do it because I have a lot of artists that I.
Speaker A:That I love, man, that I liked, who I want to help out as much as possible, you know, you should.
Speaker A:I like to help people, man.
Speaker B:Me too.
Speaker A:I ain't tripping off this.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:We can get some money, let's get some money, but let's just do good.
Speaker B:Business, you know, same like everybody tell me you.
Speaker B:And it's crazy.
Speaker B:Cause even me getting into this podcast game, you know, and I'm like, you know, I got the book shout out to From a hoe to a CEO.
Speaker B:Got you a cash.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Got to have that.
Speaker A:Listen, man, from a hoe to a.
Speaker B:Ce built a multi million dollar company.
Speaker B:Let's be clear.
Speaker B:By myself.
Speaker A:Multi.
Speaker B:I'm just saying, right?
Speaker B:But wait, what was I saying that I forgot my mind?
Speaker B:Listen, this is real life shit.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:I don't smoke weed, but sometimes I get in, I just forget my thought.
Speaker B:But the moral of the story is I. I think when I started this podcast, you know, some people was like.
Speaker B:And even me trying to go on other podcasts, hey, you can, you know, you got a couple hundred, you know, like everybody charging in my mind, I'm like, nigga, don't nobody know you like, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Everything ain't always about money.
Speaker B:I' ma just say for me, it could be exposure, it could be networking, it could be other ways to get it.
Speaker B:But this, I think the way society is built and set up, everybody's so hungry.
Speaker B:And that's why I feel like everybody going to starve and stay hungry.
Speaker B:Because it's everything they put on Forefront is money.
Speaker B:It don't have to be about money.
Speaker B:The shit going to come, right?
Speaker B:If you.
Speaker B:I was just saying this the other day.
Speaker B:Some people are average, right?
Speaker B:Like, I will consider you not an average person.
Speaker B:You're more than average, right?
Speaker B:So it could be a situation where you step in the room, you make other people uncomfortable just because you ain't average.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So I don't want to like, even with this podcast.
Speaker B:Like, why would I charge somebody to come on my shit?
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker B:I mean, people know me, and then I have to pay people to come.
Speaker B:Now, I get if they're a celebrity and stuff, but some people that ain't a celebrity, like, yes.
Speaker B:I'm like, what?
Speaker B:Like, even you, I gotta say, keep it 100.
Speaker B:Like, you was just like, hey, if you paying for what you offered it, that was dope as fuck.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because sometimes.
Speaker A:But still, you gotta understand some.
Speaker A:Some people, that was so special.
Speaker A:Some.
Speaker A:You gotta understand.
Speaker A:Like, some people, I decline, y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker A:But I'm just saying, everybody working, everybody working.
Speaker A:He working, he working, this working.
Speaker A:Like, everybody got Sometimes get paid for their time.
Speaker A:Like, some people might love it.
Speaker A:They ain't chewing out the money.
Speaker A:But I still be like, hey, I mean, you charge.
Speaker A:You want a little something?
Speaker A:Do I need to pay for.
Speaker A:Because sometimes you gotta get paid for something.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, everybody working.
Speaker A:It's a Saturday, it's a weekend.
Speaker A:So everybody, like, you know, I mean, I'm coming on a chill day.
Speaker A:So, like, I mean, I gotta offer.
Speaker B:Sometimes, but that was so special to me, I had to shout, you know, shout that out to you, because I'm seeing in this industry, like you said, this shit's a lot of work.
Speaker B:Like, even you want to start, this shit's a lot of work.
Speaker B:Meaning I ain't never really been, like, on the forefront like this.
Speaker B:I've always been discreet, too, on the back end.
Speaker B:I may be shaking and baking on the end.
Speaker B:Like, I'm like, you.
Speaker B:You discreet, too.
Speaker B:Gemini.
Speaker B:We don't like putting all our business on the forefront like that.
Speaker B:We just make moves in silence, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:This is the first.
Speaker B:Like, I'm coming out like this, but I'm doing it, I guess, for my foster youth or help.
Speaker B:This is a sense of mental health, whether people know it or not.
Speaker B:And that's my next question to you.
Speaker B:Like, if you could talk to my foster youth, especially the young men, I got a lot of minority young men in my program.
Speaker B:What would you tell them on how you turned to me?
Speaker B:Your hustle, which was promoting, starting work with all those younger labels and then yns and stuff, and now you to me, you moving, what would you tell them, like, in regards to how you got to where you are?
Speaker B:Like, what's the best advice if it was your son?
Speaker B:If it was a foster youth that didn't have a father?
Speaker A:I mean, I just tell her, man, you know, first thing you gotta do, man, you Gotta get right with God first.
Speaker B:Ooh.
Speaker A:You know, I grew up.
Speaker A:I grew up in a church, and I don't go to church as much I listen to it now, but I grew up in a church, you know, But I just feel like you gotta get yourself right with God first.
Speaker A:You gotta sit there.
Speaker A:You gotta sit there and just really ask for forgiveness, ask for help.
Speaker A:The thing about when people pray, they always want to.
Speaker A:I mean, you gotta ask for the right things.
Speaker A:I say when you praying, There you go, people.
Speaker A:God, I need this, I need that.
Speaker A:Nah, ask for this, ask for forgiveness.
Speaker A:Ask to give me strength.
Speaker A:You gotta ask for certain things for him to really listen to you, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Then as a human, you gotta look at yourself like, okay, what am I doing wrong?
Speaker A:Sometimes you gotta write some stuff down all the time.
Speaker A:Sometimes you gotta do put your pros and cons, write it down and say, okay, what am I doing wrong?
Speaker A:And what am I doing good?
Speaker A:Now if you're wrong that way you're good.
Speaker A:You got a lot of.
Speaker A:You got a lot of situation you gotta figure out, you know, but you just gotta just have the right people around you as well.
Speaker A:It's the company you keep.
Speaker A:If you want to have a good life positively, and you want to change how you want to change your environment, you got to switch up your friends around you.
Speaker B:Ooh, I like it.
Speaker B:Kids need to hear that.
Speaker B:I tell them all the time.
Speaker B:A lot of them get displaced because the company they keep, it don't even be the kid.
Speaker B:The kid's a good kid.
Speaker B:But she decided to have John Jim Joe at the house.
Speaker B:They turn.
Speaker B:But it's energy.
Speaker A:It's the energy.
Speaker A:Energy.
Speaker B:Rub off, it do.
Speaker A:He can be dope, you can be dope, but that one or two person in your circle is always on some different by the vibes, the energy.
Speaker A:Not energy, always negativity.
Speaker A:That can rub off on me.
Speaker B:It can for sure.
Speaker A:Like, hold on, why my life going like this?
Speaker A:Why is God making me do this?
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker A:How this happened?
Speaker A:Oh, I gotta get Sharika up out of here.
Speaker A:Okay, that's what it is.
Speaker A:Yeah, go.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But real talk, like, when you do, things start changing, blessings start changing.
Speaker A:So I was in my stage when I was, you know, in my depressed stage because, you know, when you're dealing with music and dealing with this and.
Speaker B:That industry is different, who walking the hardest?
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I ain't want to do it no more, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:But I just had to keep going because I never really want to give up on anything.
Speaker B:No, I like that.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker B:Well, to me, that's some good advice youngsters need to hear, especially these YN now, like, I think DLO was just here yesterday.
Speaker B:Dlo SHOUT OUT no.
Speaker B:Hoe no, I'm just playing.
Speaker B:No, but he was just here too.
Speaker B:Talking about how the Y N's are different now.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:This is the worst I've seen the world shit.
Speaker B:How many decades I got folks like, this is bad.
Speaker B:Like he was saying, they.
Speaker B:They robbing and killing old and kids.
Speaker B:The shit that just happened in Stockton.
Speaker B:So it's like so bad.
Speaker B:I see it all the time with my foster youth.
Speaker B:Like, you know, all I could do is, like you said, stay prayed up, try to help them as best as I can.
Speaker B:Be there for them.
Speaker B:Sometimes when you a statue or you're, you know, have that good energy, right?
Speaker B:Love the Lord and you just had his light that shine on you and you just.
Speaker B:It's just consistent and you can't even help it.
Speaker B:People flock to that.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So I think the kids need that.
Speaker B:They need more role models.
Speaker B:Shout out to cbe.
Speaker B:We was going to start this production thing, music production, where it's called BE with CBE or where literally we take my foster youth.
Speaker B:A lot of people don't know they are so fucking talented.
Speaker B:They could sing.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:They artists, like, it's shit I never seen before.
Speaker B:And I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:Like, I had one get a tattoo of my name on her, you know, make me a song.
Speaker B:And I'm like, bro, what could we do to help them live out what they want to do, man?
Speaker A:He should.
Speaker B:We are.
Speaker B:He got a studio, man.
Speaker A:The smart guy, man.
Speaker B:Very smart.
Speaker A:That's my brother, man.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:He'll tell you, we didn't sat nights in cars, just smoking and just thinking and vibing, you know, creating legacy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Every.
Speaker A:He'll tell you every other.
Speaker A:Like, every other weekend, I'm chilling, putting up in this house.
Speaker A:We chilling.
Speaker A:We thinking, like, what could we do?
Speaker A: Like: Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:We chilling.
Speaker A:I'm just, you know, just vibing out, trying to figure it out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Why like this?
Speaker A:Why they acting like this?
Speaker A:Why they doing this?
Speaker A:How can we fix this?
Speaker A:We should do this.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Just thinking about certain things to try to make the situation better, you know, I'm proud of him, really, because I like how he's doing these Billboards.
Speaker B:He got me one shout out.
Speaker A:And that goes back.
Speaker A:And that goes back to you saying that's motivating the kids to say, like, man, I can get a billboard right here if I do.
Speaker A:Yeah, you work hard, you get your billboard.
Speaker A:That's his motivation.
Speaker A:When the foster kids see it, when the kids that's going through mental health, they're like, man, for real.
Speaker A:That's all I gotta do.
Speaker A:You gotta do this.
Speaker A:So it's motivation.
Speaker A:So I love him for that, man.
Speaker A:And he's also giving the artist motivation to where, like, this is how you can do your promo stuff.
Speaker B:I love.
Speaker B:That's awesome.
Speaker A:So shout out to the mind.
Speaker A:Shout out to.
Speaker A:I know you.
Speaker A:I know you're gonna be mad because I'm saying his real name.
Speaker A:I don't care.
Speaker B:I don't care neither.
Speaker A:Shout out to Carter.
Speaker B:I'm excited to work with him because I think, like I said, what we gonna do?
Speaker B:Send that foster kid to the stud to his studio or something and help them just make a song, you know, Teach them the production engineering on how to make a song.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Cause some kids are interested in that too.
Speaker B:Like, even photography.
Speaker B:They wanna know how to do this.
Speaker B:Videographer.
Speaker B:What is it?
Speaker B:Videography?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Videography.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:So I think us having that platform for the foster youth will keep them one out of the streets, keep them occupied.
Speaker B:It's free.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:And you get to spend time with somebody that's positive and got good energy.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:I would love to get you included in that.
Speaker B:Like me.
Speaker B:Cbe figure that out.
Speaker A:It's whatever you need.
Speaker A:We can.
Speaker A:We can talk off camera and figure out, like, how we can, you know, work out how my people can help out, how we can make it.
Speaker A:Make it make sense.
Speaker B:Well, listen, we appreciate.
Speaker B:And you see, you're not the Grinch.
Speaker B:I am.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And of course, I gotta thank you for coming.
Speaker B:And, you know, I come with gifts.
Speaker B:I am Ms. Claus.
Speaker B:So I want you to reach under your seat and.
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker A:And why would you.
Speaker A:In the front.
Speaker A:What side?
Speaker B:The front.
Speaker B:He's making the man work.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Under the front.
Speaker B:Is he reaching?
Speaker B:See?
Speaker B:Can you feel it?
Speaker B:Let's see what we got for my guy.
Speaker A:Oh, hold on.
Speaker A:They got me.
Speaker A:Oh, hold on.
Speaker A:They got me gifts.
Speaker B:And of course.
Speaker B:Turn it that way.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:It's nice.
Speaker B:We like to keep you warm.
Speaker B:It's very cold.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Cause you so icy right now.
Speaker B:I thought you need to cool down a little bit.
Speaker A:Got me a robe.
Speaker A:I'm not even gonna open it.
Speaker A:But this is that big boy joint.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's that big boy joint.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker B:I turned it.
Speaker B:I turned the podcast.
Speaker B:Game up.
Speaker B:Ain't with me.
Speaker A:She got me the big boy joint.
Speaker A:Yeah, hold on.
Speaker A:Some more in here.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's my book from Holder.
Speaker B:CEO signed copy.
Speaker B:Because that book is gonna blow.
Speaker B:And I really want you to read it.
Speaker B:I really do.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker A:Okay, let me know.
Speaker A:I'm gonna read it too.
Speaker B:You got that?
Speaker A:I appreciate it, man.
Speaker B:No, I appreciate you for coming.
Speaker B:Y' all know this man flew down here.
Speaker B:He was with his kids.
Speaker B:He took the time to come on here to Support your girl.
Speaker B:Dr. Stan, we love you here, okay?
Speaker B:And I really wanna work with you, especially when it come to these foster kids.
Speaker B:Help me, like I'm asking.
Speaker B:People know.
Speaker B:I don't even beg.
Speaker B:I don't ask for shit, but I'm asking.
Speaker B:We don't want no money.
Speaker B:We don't want nothing.
Speaker B:I'd rather y' all time.
Speaker B:I'd rather whatever y' all can do to help them.
Speaker B:When it come to their mental health and support, they need people that are doing things.
Speaker B:They need role models.
Speaker B:So that's why I'm setting a bar with this podcast shit.
Speaker B:I'm inviting figures to my shit.
Speaker B:You're a figure, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm inviting top notch mother freakers to my shit because they need to see that.
Speaker B:Listen, Op turned his hustle into a legacy.
Speaker B:Let's just be very clear.
Speaker B:Starting from the bottom.
Speaker B:From Frisco to Richmond, all the way to Oakland.
Speaker B:And working with stars like Sweetie and all in from the Bay.
Speaker B:So shout out to you, bro, like, I'm proud of you.
Speaker B:I am so proud of you.
Speaker B:And I remember, like I said, we met them years ago and look at you now.
Speaker B:You was not doing that three years ago.
Speaker B:I wasn't doing this.
Speaker A:Okay, so we both made it small fry back then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Now you big Frost.
Speaker A:I was small fry back then.
Speaker A:But, you know, like I said, man, I'm a patient guy.
Speaker A:So I did what I had to do, man, to get it done.
Speaker B:And it worked for you.
Speaker A:I'm still going.
Speaker A:Still got a lot.
Speaker A:Still got a long ways to go.
Speaker A:But I definitely want to tell you I appreciate you for having me on here.
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker A:Also, man, I'm definitely going to read this book.
Speaker A:Please, y' all go get it.
Speaker A:From hoe to CEO.
Speaker A:Please go get this.
Speaker A:Gotcha.
Speaker A:I'mma read it.
Speaker A:You gotta support black women, man.
Speaker B:Please.
Speaker A:Mental health is very important.
Speaker A:No, in Real life, people go through a lot, so gotta check on your friends.
Speaker A:You gotta check on, you know, people around you, everybody.
Speaker A:Nobody's gonna tell you, oh, man, I'm going through something.
Speaker A:They gonna say they gonna say that, but they not gonna say it.
Speaker A:They're not gonna sit here and talk to you.
Speaker A:No, for real, if you really going through something, you go through mental health, you're gonna cry when you have that conversation.
Speaker A:Cause it's gonna pour out.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:It's going to pour out to where, like, may I need help?
Speaker B:It's an old sin where you heal in public, but a lot of people suffering in private, right?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And I think the healing, like, right now, starts right here, where you tell your story, you know, I don't know if you've been watching, but check out my podcast, too.
Speaker B:And just like the whole YouTube channel where I have foster kids, I have a former and a current come on and tell their story.
Speaker B:And it was deep.
Speaker B:I think my first episode, we was all in here crying.
Speaker B:He probably ain't gonna say we was all crying, you know.
Speaker B:You know, they was stepping out, he was crying.
Speaker B:We all listen, man.
Speaker A:Real cry, though, man.
Speaker A:Real cry, man.
Speaker A:Ain't nothing wrong with crying.
Speaker A:Maybe you got one tear or if your eyes water, your eyes water.
Speaker A:Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker B:You crying?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That mean.
Speaker A:That mean.
Speaker A:It's something.
Speaker A:It's something in you that hit you.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That you felt that, like, yo, definitely hit.
Speaker A:I gotta cry.
Speaker A:That shit.
Speaker B:It was very deep.
Speaker B:Tune into it.
Speaker B:Turning your hustle into a legacy.
Speaker B:My YouTube channel, like, share and subscribe, you know, I'm so automated trying to say that shit.
Speaker B:But other than that, we out.
Speaker B:We want to shout out to the camera anything let the people know before we go.
Speaker A:That one.
Speaker A:This one.
Speaker A:Shout out to all my people, man.
Speaker A:Everybody in the Bay Area, man.
Speaker A:Shout out to Warner Records, man.
Speaker A:Shout out to be with podcast man for having me, you know, Shout out to my kids.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Just shout out to everybody, man, who've been supporting me since day one, man.
Speaker A:So thank you for having me.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Let's wrap that shit up.
Speaker B:Ah.
Speaker B:Holla.
Speaker B:Thanks for tuning in.
Speaker B:Turn your hustle into a what legacy?
Speaker A:I'm high right now.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker A:Forget that on camera.
Speaker B:Bye.
