Episode 38

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Published on:

3rd Aug 2026

Raindrop: Navigating Love and Loss in the Industry

Dr. Stance and Raindrop dive into a heartwarming and candid conversation about personal struggles, relationships, and the ups and downs of life. Right off the bat, we tackle the importance of turning our hustles into legacies, emphasizing that it’s not just about the grind but also about the connections we forge along the way. Raindrop shares her journey as a serial entrepreneur and entertainer, highlighting the reality of balancing ambition with emotional challenges, especially after losing her father. We sprinkle in some laughs, relatable moments, and the occasional playful jab, making it clear that while life can throw curveballs, it’s all about how we respond. Join us as we explore themes of empowerment, accountability, and the ever-so-important reminder that it’s okay to lean on each other in tough times.

Transcript
Speaker A:

Sam, What's up?

Speaker A:

What's up, y'?

Speaker B:

All?

Speaker A:

It's Dr. Stance with turning your hustle into a legacy.

Speaker A:

And I am beyond excited.

Speaker A:

Y' all know I love the baddies, honey.

Speaker A:

All the pretty women, period.

Speaker A:

I got Ms. Raindrop.

Speaker B:

Raindrop in the building.

Speaker A:

Y' all see her?

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

She's lucky.

Speaker A:

I always get the baddies.

Speaker B:

What's up, boo?

Speaker B:

Hey.

Speaker B:

How you doing?

Speaker A:

You look so gorge.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

So do you.

Speaker B:

The green is greeny.

Speaker A:

It's a vibe.

Speaker A:

It's a vibe.

Speaker A:

The green is green and are both our favorite colors.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Listen.

Speaker B:

Favorite color.

Speaker A:

Green.

Speaker B:

But we ain't green.

Speaker A:

But we like that.

Speaker A:

That bag.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Period.

Speaker A:

That's what it stand for me.

Speaker A:

What's up, boo?

Speaker A:

How was your flight?

Speaker B:

It was good.

Speaker B:

It was long.

Speaker B:

But we here.

Speaker A:

Thank God they didn't delay you.

Speaker A:

A lot of delays were because the staff went on freaking strike yesterday.

Speaker A:

So thank God you was able to make it.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker B:

Cause, you know, they just shut down all.

Speaker B:

I think it was.

Speaker B:

What was it?

Speaker A:

Spirit.

Speaker B:

Yes, Spirit.

Speaker A:

They closed spirit.

Speaker B:

I'm like, dang it.

Speaker A:

My luck, my luck.

Speaker A:

But, you know, at least all my guests made it, so I was very happy with that.

Speaker A:

And let me tell y' all something.

Speaker A:

I'm finna cap real quick.

Speaker A:

She the only guest that got the rental car and did what she needed to do.

Speaker A:

She wasn't bugging me and asking me what to do and where to find a place.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

You know, y' all need to get it together.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

She bossed up, so I had to.

Speaker B:

Say that I appreciate it.

Speaker A:

Cause they be getting on my nerves.

Speaker B:

Like, where do I go?

Speaker A:

Like, no, she bossed up and bought a car and was here on time.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Period.

Speaker A:

What's up, though?

Speaker A:

I'm like this.

Speaker A:

When I met you and I seen your page, I thought you was the cutest thing.

Speaker A:

I always tell you, you look like my little sister to me.

Speaker A:

You look like you mix with Thai and black.

Speaker A:

I'm Creole.

Speaker A:

But you said you mix with.

Speaker A:

What is it?

Speaker B:

I'm black, white, Indian, Dutch, German, and Italian.

Speaker A:

I just breathe.

Speaker A:

Like, I just bucket a beautiful.

Speaker B:

A little bit of this, a little bit of that.

Speaker B:

A whole lot of fine shit.

Speaker B:

Whole lot of fine shit, period.

Speaker A:

And the butt is just too good and just voluptuous, you know?

Speaker A:

I love pretty girls.

Speaker A:

I've always hung with pretty girls.

Speaker A:

You?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I love hanging with pretty girls.

Speaker B:

But it's been like, growing up from where I'm from, from Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker B:

Like, a lot of pretty girls be intimidated.

Speaker B:

Like, I Be like, hey, I like to be with the pretty girls.

Speaker A:

You know, Like, I struggle with that.

Speaker A:

I think that's why I don't have that many female friends.

Speaker A:

Especially don't be pretty and got the personality.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Like, I think that a lot of women.

Speaker A:

I wish I will say this.

Speaker A:

We've gotten better, though.

Speaker B:

Not for sure.

Speaker A:

It's gotten better to where we're supporting one another.

Speaker A:

We're, you know, like, just having each other's back.

Speaker A:

It's gotten better.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

like teen women right now in:

Speaker A:

But before growing up, for me, too, they always was weird with me women.

Speaker A:

And I don't understand why.

Speaker B:

And I'm real big on, like, women empowerment.

Speaker B:

You know, Like, I support women.

Speaker B:

I love women.

Speaker B:

I, I, I get, you know, with all the, you know, boss women and stuff like that, but I just know my experience.

Speaker B:

A lot of women, a lot of other women, like, they would just get intimidated by your aura and just your personality and stuff.

Speaker B:

It's one thing about you being a baddie, but when you come with the.

Speaker B:

The personality and a whole.

Speaker B:

Or like, some people get intimidated by that.

Speaker A:

They are.

Speaker A:

And it's unfortunate when technically I'm the type.

Speaker A:

If you winning or if I'm winning, I'm gonna make sure you come with me.

Speaker A:

Let's go, sis.

Speaker A:

How we gonna get it together?

Speaker A:

But it's a lot of competition.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

When I first talked to you, I was just like.

Speaker B:

You was just so genuine and pure and had a lot of just energy.

Speaker B:

And then when I seen your page, I'm like, oh, she's cute.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

In real life, though, right?

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

No, for real.

Speaker B:

I'm like, yeah, and you too.

Speaker B:

Like, thank you.

Speaker A:

It's not cap.

Speaker A:

We do be prettier in person.

Speaker A:

I swear.

Speaker A:

I think I'm going through menopause.

Speaker A:

Is the air cut off, Percy?

Speaker A:

It could just be Raindrop making me hot.

Speaker A:

Boo.

Speaker B:

Because I get the pretty girls.

Speaker A:

No, but listen, I'm like this.

Speaker A:

Tell the people who is Raindrop?

Speaker A:

Because I know a lot about you.

Speaker A:

First of all, wifey, I've seen you.

Speaker B:

When you be like, ha, ha, ha.

Speaker A:

With your music, which I listen to and I love.

Speaker A:

But tell the people who is Raindrop?

Speaker B:

Raindrop is a serial entrepreneur.

Speaker B:

She's an entertainer.

Speaker B:

She's fun.

Speaker B:

She lives in the moment.

Speaker B:

She's a mother.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

You know, she's a public figure.

Speaker A:

I like it.

Speaker B:

Just every.

Speaker B:

All the above.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, I know you mentioned that you had a daycare.

Speaker A:

I do and you work with the kids now are these little kids.

Speaker A:

Hats off to you.

Speaker A:

Cause baby, I had one and was done.

Speaker A:

I'm more of the 18 or 20.

Speaker A:

I'm more of the young adults.

Speaker A:

Okay, so you do the little kids.

Speaker B:

So my daycare service ages 6 weeks through 12 years of age.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker B:

So we do the before and after school and all that good stuff.

Speaker B:

Field trips.

Speaker B:

We provide nutrition meals and stuff like that.

Speaker B:

We teach all age appropriate academics.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker A:

And do you have.

Speaker A:

It's a state license.

Speaker A:

Of course.

Speaker B:

Yes, it is state license in Atlanta.

Speaker B:

Got it in the Camp Creek area.

Speaker A:

I like it.

Speaker A:

Y' all know I'm.

Speaker A:

You know, I'm from Oakland, so I don't.

Speaker A:

When I come.

Speaker A:

I'm going to Atlanta on the fifth side will be with Ms. Raindrop.

Speaker A:

Show me the town, please.

Speaker B:

I need good food.

Speaker A:

I love seafood.

Speaker B:

I love good.

Speaker B:

I'm pescatarian, so period.

Speaker A:

We talked about that.

Speaker A:

I showed her a few or a spot out here in Livermore.

Speaker A:

And you like.

Speaker B:

And the tacos was banging West.

Speaker A:

Thanks.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Livermore.

Speaker A:

I'm over.

Speaker A:

I love soul food, but I'm over.

Speaker A:

You die, you eat that shit.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

No, but anyway, you know, when I did meet you, I did a little research.

Speaker A:

You are married to.

Speaker A:

What's the guy name?

Speaker A:

I'm Tor, bro.

Speaker B:

I'm not married.

Speaker A:

Engaged.

Speaker B:

I'm going.

Speaker B:

Actually going through a separation.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

Y' all just got together.

Speaker A:

I thought give me the fan.

Speaker A:

I didn't really got hot purse.

Speaker A:

Give me a piece of papers.

Speaker A:

I'm serious.

Speaker B:

We was.

Speaker B:

We was actually never married yet.

Speaker B:

We was engaged.

Speaker B:

And we're just going through a lot.

Speaker B:

I just lost my dad.

Speaker A:

Oh no.

Speaker B:

A month ago.

Speaker B:

So I've been going through a grieving phase.

Speaker B:

And unfortunately like, I just.

Speaker B:

I think I just been pushing up people that loves me away.

Speaker A:

Self sabotage by default.

Speaker B:

Self sabotage.

Speaker A:

I do that.

Speaker B:

And I. I could admit that.

Speaker B:

And it's unfortunate.

Speaker B:

You know, hopefully we'll get through it.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I will.

Speaker A:

I think.

Speaker A:

You know, I'm married too.

Speaker A:

I grow.

Speaker A:

I got a book for.

Speaker A:

You know, I wrote the book from a Whole to a Season.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Speaking of book, I got my book for you too.

Speaker B:

Did you really?

Speaker B:

I didn't even know you wrote a book.

Speaker B:

Surprises.

Speaker B:

Surprise.

Speaker B:

It's called the Serial entrepreneur Surv Bibles guy.

Speaker B:

I had to bring that to you.

Speaker A:

Ms. Dorsey.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

She got a book.

Speaker A:

Y' all make sure y' all check it out.

Speaker B:

Got you a lighter.

Speaker B:

I don't know if you smoke or.

Speaker A:

Whatever, but got her fat Booty over here.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker A:

Can you make sure you chime in on this person?

Speaker B:

The Serial Entrepreneur Survival Guide.

Speaker B:

It's on Amazon.

Speaker A:

So you can balance and survival in the business and the life spirit.

Speaker A:

Speaking of you being in the industry.

Speaker A:

I just got in the industry.

Speaker A:

You know, I've always been discreet.

Speaker A:

Not even discreet.

Speaker A:

I wrote a whole book about hoeing and being a CEO.

Speaker A:

But I'll say on the back end, I'll be busting plays or whatever.

Speaker A:

But you don't know who did it.

Speaker A:

You see what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Okay, but this is the most I've been open.

Speaker A:

Being that you've been in the industry, you've been in a limelight.

Speaker A:

What is that like?

Speaker A:

It's not easy being judged.

Speaker A:

People always, you know, watching you and, you know, stalking and you real pretty in real life.

Speaker A:

So what is that like?

Speaker A:

Like being in the industry?

Speaker B:

Well, honestly, since grade school, you know, I always been a pretty girl in school.

Speaker B:

And then, like, just going through, you know, school.

Speaker B:

I was always a new girl at school.

Speaker B:

So first of all, I was always a loner.

Speaker B:

I'm still a loner.

Speaker B:

I'm a Sagittarius.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

Fire.

Speaker A:

No wonder we like.

Speaker A:

I'm Leo.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

Leo's in.

Speaker A:

You already know.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Leo's.

Speaker B:

And Sagittarius is a fun and loving friend.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

So, I mean, I never really thought about it too much.

Speaker B:

I just always knew that I was different.

Speaker B:

I always knew that.

Speaker B:

People always was, like, wondering, like, who is this girl, what she got going on?

Speaker B:

And it honestly, it never really fade.

Speaker B:

I'm just true to myself.

Speaker B:

I'm honest, I'm blunt, I'm loyal, you know, very authentic.

Speaker B:

And, you know, I just maneuver through life every day with just being true to myself.

Speaker B:

So it never.

Speaker B:

I never really sit and think about, like, what people think about me.

Speaker B:

We don't care how they feel about me.

Speaker A:

We don't care.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker A:

I think that's why we get further in life, because we don't let the opinions or the judgment get to us.

Speaker A:

You.

Speaker A:

They talked about Jesus, right?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

If anything get to me right now is the grieving of my father and the separation of my relationship.

Speaker B:

That's the only thing that's bothering me right now.

Speaker B:

But other than that, nothing else matters.

Speaker A:

Have y' all tried counseling?

Speaker B:

No, not yet.

Speaker A:

It worked.

Speaker A:

You know, I'm married, too, and I divorced him after we was married for a year.

Speaker A:

I divorced him for three months, and then he came back and I was like, huh.

Speaker A:

You know, But I mandated that counseling was number one.

Speaker A:

You see what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

What, So y' all worked it out after the divorce?

Speaker A:

We did.

Speaker B:

Well, that's hope.

Speaker A:

I mean, we did.

Speaker B:

I love him, though.

Speaker B:

I very much love him.

Speaker B:

Love him very much so.

Speaker B:

And I know he loves me, too.

Speaker B:

But, you know, unfortunate.

Speaker B:

I. I'm going through an emotional, you know, mental space right now.

Speaker A:

You was close with your dad?

Speaker A:

Very close.

Speaker B:

Like, like, talk every day.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

That's hard.

Speaker A:

That's very.

Speaker B:

I'm emotional unstable right now.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

And I can admit that, and I can take accountability of my actions, you know, and, you know, hopefully, we'll be able to get through it.

Speaker A:

Y' all will.

Speaker A:

I lost my mom about four or five years ago at a young age.

Speaker A:

She was 59.

Speaker A:

And it was a tragic death.

Speaker A:

You know, I feel like it's different when, you know, somebody got an illness, like cancer or, you know.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, prepare for it.

Speaker B:

Same with my dad.

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker B:

My dad was healthy.

Speaker B:

My dad was only 58.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

See?

Speaker A:

So I know that pain, especially being close with your parent.

Speaker A:

And we ain't got to get into it.

Speaker A:

Cause I don't feel like crying today.

Speaker A:

Girl.

Speaker A:

No makeup, girl.

Speaker B:

I was already talking to my homegirl.

Speaker A:

She said, you sure you ain't gonna.

Speaker B:

Have no mental breakdown?

Speaker B:

Cause I'd just be crying out of.

Speaker B:

Out of the blue.

Speaker A:

I think.

Speaker B:

I didn't cry so much already before I got here.

Speaker B:

My eyes might be a little puffy right now.

Speaker A:

Listen, when you talk about.

Speaker A:

Oh, gosh, I don't want to talk about.

Speaker A:

But when you talk about heartbreak, and I know I ain't supposed to be cursing Percy, but I be like, effing nigga.

Speaker A:

That ain't nothing compared to losing a parent, right?

Speaker A:

If you ain't lost no parent, you'll never understand what real heartbreak is.

Speaker A:

I thought I was gonna die, sis.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker A:

I thought I was gonna die when my mom died.

Speaker B:

Nah, like, my dad.

Speaker B:

Like, yeah, that's my dad.

Speaker B:

Like, I was real.

Speaker B:

I was a daddy's girl.

Speaker B:

He called me baby girl.

Speaker B:

He called me twin.

Speaker B:

Like, that's somebody I talk to every day.

Speaker B:

If I didn't talk to him that day, he's calling me the next day.

Speaker B:

Like, oh, my bad, baby.

Speaker B:

Like, I ain't talked to you yesterday.

Speaker B:

What you doing?

Speaker B:

Have you talked to your sister?

Speaker B:

How does the kids.

Speaker B:

Like, he's one of them dads.

Speaker B:

Like, he ain't miss a beat.

Speaker B:

You know what I Mean, so.

Speaker B:

And he knew my fiance.

Speaker B:

They talked and, you know, they met and stuff.

Speaker B:

So it's like going through a.

Speaker B:

Losing.

Speaker B:

Losing a parent and then losing, you know, a strong relationship at that.

Speaker B:

This is not just somebody I was dating.

Speaker B:

This was somebody I was engaged to.

Speaker A:

Well, I don't think it's over.

Speaker A:

I think it's ups and downs, and that's a whole nother topic.

Speaker A:

Like when they.

Speaker A:

And he.

Speaker A:

In the industry he been in for years.

Speaker A:

I don't have to name him, but just.

Speaker A:

He's been in the industry for years.

Speaker A:

And I think that that's hard within itself, women and, you know, money and all of the fame, you know, it's hard how it.

Speaker A:

See, I've never dated nobody in the industry, so I don't really know.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker A:

I like my niggas not to be known at all.

Speaker A:

I don't need nobody knowing mine.

Speaker A:

They won't even know my husband to.

Speaker B:

This day, but he.

Speaker B:

In the book I did that I dated people that was, you know, that was not in the industry.

Speaker B:

And, you know, and it was like, one thing about me, you just never know.

Speaker B:

Like, I don't try to, like,.

Speaker A:

Hold back.

Speaker B:

No, it's more.

Speaker B:

I don't try to distinguish, like, who I'm going to talk to.

Speaker B:

I just.

Speaker B:

I like who I like.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And I build a connection.

Speaker B:

ve been in the industry since:

Speaker B:

I used to stand firm on not dating nobody in the industry because.

Speaker B:

Because of the already with the Persona that already people would think like, oh, she going to do this, she going to do that.

Speaker B:

She dang people that she dating for people that.

Speaker B:

And I just always did the opposite.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And it was just like, you know, I always been a dominant female, so.

Speaker B:

Fire, you know?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Fire sign.

Speaker B:

So I've always been a dominant female, and I always been a strong female.

Speaker B:

And then like, dating somebody in the industry is very new, you know, Especially somebody who's more seasoned than you.

Speaker B:

Because you got me, who probably think that I, you know, I am who I am, thinking I know it all.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I don't, you know, and I'm.

Speaker B:

I'm still.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

I'm still learning.

Speaker A:

So cute.

Speaker B:

And I would say that it's really.

Speaker B:

It's really no difference, though.

Speaker A:

Really.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't say it's a difference because men is.

Speaker A:

Men talk it.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Like, I don't understand the difference because Even.

Speaker B:

Even though I'm dating somebody who's in the industry or whether I'm not dating somebody in the industry, I'm in the industry.

Speaker B:

So it's still public.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

People are still in your business.

Speaker B:

People still want to know what you got going on.

Speaker B:

Whether.

Speaker B:

Because I'm in it, you know, so whether I'm dating somebody in the industry or whether I'm not, I'm in it.

Speaker B:

So it still brings it public.

Speaker A:

It seems like, honestly, it'd be better because it's like you guys have an understanding.

Speaker A:

You being an entry.

Speaker A:

He may be on tour.

Speaker A:

You may have to go tour and do this or.

Speaker B:

And unfortunately, he was on tour when I lost my dad, so this is all bad.

Speaker B:

It's just all bad.

Speaker B:

I'm like, oh, my God, I can't deal.

Speaker B:

I love you.

Speaker B:

You're so cute, sis.

Speaker A:

I do.

Speaker B:

It's just all bad.

Speaker B:

It just feel all bad.

Speaker A:

Well, I hope he see it, you know, and I hope that.

Speaker A:

Have you called at least?

Speaker A:

Cause, you know, we be seeing have I called.

Speaker A:

Ah, so it's one of them.

Speaker B:

He had to block me.

Speaker B:

I blew that phone up.

Speaker A:

Well, pull up.

Speaker A:

We didn't do all that for Yola, you know, like.

Speaker B:

But, you know, we can do that.

Speaker B:

We can do all that fighting and calling and blowing up and popping up, but that only makes it worse.

Speaker B:

That just pushes somebody away.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

The best way to get is to.

Speaker A:

To.

Speaker A:

To.

Speaker A:

To move on without them knowing you moved on.

Speaker A:

Does that make sense?

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

Attention is the best attention.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker A:

They always come back.

Speaker A:

If you ask me, my husband, we didn't go talk for three months.

Speaker B:

It's hard for me to move on.

Speaker A:

I know as we love hard fire signs.

Speaker A:

We love so hard.

Speaker A:

Even when loving the.

Speaker A:

The wrong for the wrong reason, sometimes we just love.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Even if he may not even done us right, she may not even done us right, Whatever the case may be, we just love hard, you know?

Speaker A:

How old are you?

Speaker A:

You so cute.

Speaker B:

I'm 25.

Speaker A:

That's fine, because I'm 30, you know, and so.

Speaker A:

Hello, Percy.

Speaker A:

I'm 30.

Speaker A:

Let me live my life.

Speaker A:

Um, I feel like.

Speaker A:

No, for real.

Speaker A:

Just think about it.

Speaker A:

When we was young.

Speaker A:

See, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

I lost my Virginia very young.

Speaker A:

I was 12 years old when I was young.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker B:

I was 12.

Speaker A:

So think about.

Speaker B:

Oh, geez.

Speaker A:

But think about it.

Speaker B:

I was 12.

Speaker A:

The first wee wee.

Speaker A:

I thought I was in love.

Speaker A:

I thought it was the best thing in the world.

Speaker A:

And I thought, like, oh, my God, I'm gonna die for this man.

Speaker A:

I love him.

Speaker A:

Girl, when you look back as you got older and probably had some better winkies, you'd be like, girl, what the hell was I?

Speaker B:

To be honest, it's not even about the sex stuff with me.

Speaker B:

It's about the connection.

Speaker A:

That too, in my mind, I thought it's about connected.

Speaker B:

It's about, like, with me.

Speaker B:

Cause, like, me and my fiance, we had a friendship first.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

That's very hard.

Speaker B:

So we was friends for a while.

Speaker B:

And, you know, I was in a relationship before him.

Speaker B:

And he knows.

Speaker B:

He knows this.

Speaker B:

And it's crazy because I keep saying, like, you should know me.

Speaker B:

Because he knows I wouldn't even date him for real or be with him until I Knew I was 100% done with my current relationship.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So with him to have no mercy on what I'm going through, like, I didn't cheat on him.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Or nothing like that, but what your ass do.

Speaker B:

No, I felt like he did something that was not loyal.

Speaker B:

He didn't cheat on me either.

Speaker B:

But what he did.

Speaker B:

I'm real big on loyalty.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker A:

That's our number one thing.

Speaker B:

Loyalty runs deep.

Speaker B:

And I feel like loyalty should never compromise.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

Or honesty.

Speaker B:

I feel like it should never be a compromise when it comes to loyalty.

Speaker B:

And I feel like he compromised his loyalty to me.

Speaker B:

And, you know, he got his way of.

Speaker B:

Of thinking it, which is cool.

Speaker B:

And then with that being said, with me going through all the grieving and, you know, the her and I. I got.

Speaker B:

I allow his action, make my reaction blow up, Blow up.

Speaker B:

And, you know, and that's cool.

Speaker B:

And I take accountability.

Speaker B:

You know, I said some things to him that I should never said.

Speaker B:

And I know him as a man, especially his caliber.

Speaker B:

A man, his pride, he feel like he just.

Speaker B:

He's standing on it.

Speaker A:

And you act a fool.

Speaker A:

Do you ax a fool?

Speaker B:

I mean, nobody knows it.

Speaker B:

No, no, no, I do.

Speaker B:

No, it's not that.

Speaker B:

I just couldn't.

Speaker B:

I couldn't control my mouth.

Speaker B:

I said some things I should never said.

Speaker A:

Okay, so you're aggressive, because I'm definitely aggressive.

Speaker B:

But one thing about me, I'm not.

Speaker B:

Nobody else gonna know.

Speaker B:

I'm not gonna do it in front.

Speaker B:

Like, I would never turn up in front of you guys.

Speaker A:

See, that's me, too.

Speaker A:

That's me too.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I verbally abused my husband at one point.

Speaker A:

You won't know but when we're in public, it's like kind of playing for the front row.

Speaker A:

I wouldn't do it in front of nobody.

Speaker B:

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker A:

It still don't justify it, though.

Speaker B:

No, it don't.

Speaker B:

You know, but with the circumstance.

Speaker B:

He known me for this long, and I never turned up like that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I never said the things that I said to him that night before prior to what I.

Speaker A:

It's deeper.

Speaker A:

Like you said, you're going through something.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker B:

I know it is.

Speaker B:

Because, you know, I done did the research.

Speaker B:

I didn't already, you know, reached out for help and all that good stuff.

Speaker B:

And it's still.

Speaker B:

It's still coming back to the grieving and the depression.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

Like, especially.

Speaker A:

Let me tell you something.

Speaker A:

If he got his parents, he'll never understand.

Speaker B:

He do got his parents.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

So at the end of the day, you know, some things I ain't gonna say.

Speaker A:

My thing is that you're accountable.

Speaker A:

So that deserves some credit.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

We ain't perfect.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm definitely accountable.

Speaker A:

He ain't.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

But, you know, most men don't.

Speaker A:

A lot of them don't be sometimes, you know, and that's why I say, unfortunately.

Speaker A:

Not unfortunately.

Speaker B:

He feel like I'm a celebrity.

Speaker B:

I'm famous.

Speaker B:

It was nothing.

Speaker B:

And that's where you got it messed up.

Speaker A:

And that's what.

Speaker B:

Because we're still human.

Speaker A:

That's why.

Speaker A:

It's hard with the industry.

Speaker B:

It is hard with the industry.

Speaker B:

It's not what you do.

Speaker B:

It's how you do it.

Speaker A:

Them industry guys, and I could even say that, shout out to Percy, because.

Speaker B:

I'm very secure of who I am.

Speaker B:

I'm not no jealous.

Speaker B:

I'm not.

Speaker B:

Me neither.

Speaker B:

I'm not that.

Speaker A:

I'm not going through your phone.

Speaker A:

I'm not gonna be star you.

Speaker A:

I'll cut you off if I gotta do all that.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Like, I'm very, very secure of who I am.

Speaker B:

I'm not jealous.

Speaker B:

Never been jealous of no female.

Speaker B:

Never.

Speaker B:

None of that.

Speaker B:

But one thing that I do learn is if a female can't get to you, they gonna go after your man.

Speaker A:

Ah.

Speaker A:

That's why I ain't got that many female friends.

Speaker B:

You don't gotta be they friend.

Speaker B:

They could just be somebody that don't like you.

Speaker A:

They don't know who he is.

Speaker A:

You can't go after what you don't know.

Speaker B:

You right.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And that's why?

Speaker A:

You know, I'll say this.

Speaker A:

I've talked to an industry guy, but in my mind, I was like, I ain't finna I'm not.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna have to kill this.

Speaker A:

I'm like, I ain't finna be.

Speaker A:

Cause I already know I'm not.

Speaker A:

Cause I don't.

Speaker A:

I don't play about mine.

Speaker A:

And I know you the same.

Speaker A:

Cause we fire, we don't.

Speaker A:

We are very.

Speaker A:

I can acknowledge it.

Speaker A:

I'm a little controlling.

Speaker A:

Just a little bit.

Speaker A:

Not much, but I am.

Speaker A:

Husband says I'm controlling.

Speaker A:

It's not intentional.

Speaker A:

I'm possessive.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I'm very possessive and protective.

Speaker B:

I'm selfish with minds.

Speaker A:

Very much so.

Speaker B:

Like, I don't mind.

Speaker B:

Like, we can go out.

Speaker B:

I don't mind bitches being around.

Speaker A:

Excuse me.

Speaker B:

From.

Speaker B:

Not the cuss, but if females is around, and I know they.

Speaker B:

Because if nobody else wants your man, like, they gonna want your man.

Speaker B:

They gonna.

Speaker B:

Men gonna want me.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

And that's cool.

Speaker B:

Like, I don't care.

Speaker B:

That don't bother me.

Speaker B:

Because as long as you respect me, you let it.

Speaker B:

And you on this pedestal, and I'm on this pedestal.

Speaker A:

We good.

Speaker B:

But the moment you let a female have one up on you or you let a man have one up on your man, that's a.

Speaker B:

That's where the line draws.

Speaker A:

I definitely draw that line.

Speaker B:

I would never allow a man to feel like he got one up on my man.

Speaker B:

A man can.

Speaker B:

Another nigga can never, like, have one up on my period ever.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And I'm real big when.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

When I say my loyalty runs deep.

Speaker B:

It runs deep.

Speaker A:

Facts.

Speaker A:

I'm with you on that, sis.

Speaker A:

I don't.

Speaker A:

I don't play those games.

Speaker A:

And I'll even tell the truth, even when it hurts.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

I might be scared.

Speaker A:

I might be.

Speaker B:

What's your sign, Leo?

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

You said that.

Speaker A:

Like, I.

Speaker A:

Even if it hurt, and I'm gonna be scared to tell you, but I'm gonna have to face it, because my conscience can't handle me either.

Speaker A:

I'm telling myself that's why I'm not a good.

Speaker A:

I'm not a good liar or a liar.

Speaker B:

I'm not a good liar.

Speaker A:

Not me neither.

Speaker B:

Ever since I was a kid.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

Adults would tell me, oh, it's over your face.

Speaker B:

It's all on your face.

Speaker B:

I wear my heart on my sleeve.

Speaker B:

My sleeve.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker A:

I do, too, sis.

Speaker A:

It's nothing personal.

Speaker A:

I think that's just a fire sign thing.

Speaker A:

You know why?

Speaker A:

Because we authentic.

Speaker A:

We don't lie to ourselves.

Speaker A:

Because when you lie to somebody else, you lying to yourself, too.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Because that mean you ain't man enough, woman enough to tell the truth.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Very blunt, very straightforward.

Speaker B:

Sometimes I think I'm too transparent.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

That's a fire I'm telling.

Speaker B:

We're fucked up.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

And this is another thing.

Speaker A:

People are intimidated of our personality.

Speaker A:

Because this what I love about us, though.

Speaker A:

We'll say what people would think to say.

Speaker A:

We'll say it because we're bold, we're beautiful.

Speaker A:

And like you said, we don't really care what people say.

Speaker A:

But sometimes that gets us in trouble.

Speaker B:

They do.

Speaker A:

It gets us in trouble.

Speaker B:

And I've worked and that's.

Speaker B:

And that's what got me in trouble right now.

Speaker B:

And, like, I didn't apologize.

Speaker B:

I just want to have mercy on me.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

I deserve that.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm a child of God.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm a praying woman.

Speaker B:

I go to church.

Speaker B:

I have a relationship with God and he knows it.

Speaker B:

And for him to just.

Speaker A:

What's his sign?

Speaker B:

A Leo.

Speaker A:

Oh, you know, you know how we.

Speaker B:

Love him down.

Speaker A:

But I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

You know, our cutoff game is, man,.

Speaker B:

I ain't never been cut off like this.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

This nigga.

Speaker B:

I ain't never been cut off ever.

Speaker A:

Our cut off game is.

Speaker B:

But I wouldn't even say.

Speaker B:

I think it's more so you feel me say he cut me off because we coming back.

Speaker B:

I feel like he enjoying the.

Speaker A:

You sad?

Speaker B:

You like begging him back?

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

My dad would be so mad at me right now.

Speaker A:

I don't, like, continue to do it.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Because one thing about me, though, because when I'm.

Speaker B:

When I'm done, I'm done, though.

Speaker B:

That when I'm done, I'm done.

Speaker A:

That's how, Leo, you know, why we be done.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

When I'm done, like, I can understand.

Speaker B:

I could.

Speaker B:

I can accept accountability and I can, you know, you know, try to fight for something that I believe in.

Speaker B:

But I.

Speaker B:

Some.

Speaker B:

I feel like sometimes people would take that advantage of you.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

Oh, they don't.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm not even giving time to miss me because right when he thinking he missed me, I'm probably calling or texting.

Speaker B:

But once that stop, you know, them tables always turn.

Speaker A:

I would.

Speaker A:

You just literally Took the word.

Speaker A:

I said the tables is going to turn them tables.

Speaker B:

I never.

Speaker B:

It never been a point where they never have.

Speaker A:

Especially with men.

Speaker A:

There's no offense, person.

Speaker A:

They always come back.

Speaker A:

No, they always come back.

Speaker A:

I promise.

Speaker B:

But it's not even about that.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker B:

I'm not even doing it to be like, oh, I want him to come back.

Speaker B:

I just want him to understand that I am sorry.

Speaker B:

I do apologize.

Speaker B:

I do take accountability, and I want to be able to move forward the same, you know?

Speaker B:

Like, I don't want it to be where we is, holding grudges or we throwing stuff in each other's spaces.

Speaker B:

And, you know, I just want to get back to where we started and just be able to get through it and move forward.

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker A:

I'm a lover girl.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you is.

Speaker B:

I love my man.

Speaker A:

I know you is.

Speaker A:

The elite fire is just.

Speaker A:

That's just.

Speaker B:

He loves me, and I'm not.

Speaker B:

And I'm not ashamed or afraid to say it.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

I'm not.

Speaker A:

I feel like he love you too.

Speaker B:

I do, too.

Speaker A:

It's just that he gonna need.

Speaker B:

He engaged me in three months.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

He just need time.

Speaker B:

He chased me for a year.

Speaker A:

And y' all was friends prior.

Speaker B:

We was friends prior.

Speaker A:

See?

Speaker B:

And he knows me.

Speaker B:

See, nigga, you know me.

Speaker A:

Why do you.

Speaker B:

You trying to hold all this against me right now, man?

Speaker B:

Cardi going through a lot.

Speaker B:

Shoot.

Speaker A:

That's why I said he.

Speaker A:

He'll come back.

Speaker A:

I'm telling you one thing I know about us Leos.

Speaker A:

He just needs some time.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Yeah, he do.

Speaker B:

He keeps saying that.

Speaker B:

Just give it time to give it time, but it's hard.

Speaker B:

I can't give time.

Speaker A:

You have to.

Speaker B:

I don't got time.

Speaker A:

Yes, you do.

Speaker B:

I don't time life too short.

Speaker B:

I just lost my dad.

Speaker B:

And you know what's crazy?

Speaker B:

I just told my dad right before he died because him and his sisters was beefing.

Speaker B:

And I said, dad, like, you need to, like, give your.

Speaker B:

Your sister.

Speaker B:

Like, y' all need to talk.

Speaker B:

Life too short.

Speaker B:

He's like.

Speaker B:

And it's unfortunate because I. I know you know what I mean.

Speaker B:

I just be thinking, like, damn, life too short, man.

Speaker A:

It is.

Speaker B:

I don't hold grudges.

Speaker A:

I don't either.

Speaker A:

But I do take time.

Speaker A:

If I feel like you hurt me, I'm gonna take some time from your ass.

Speaker A:

But that don't mean I ain't gonna stop loving you or not come around.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

Leo cutoff game is a fool.

Speaker A:

It's probably like no other Taurus too.

Speaker A:

But Lee.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we.

Speaker A:

Yeah, our cutoff game is bad.

Speaker B:

See, one thing about Assad, one thing about me, I give everybody a chance.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

I'm a forgiving person.

Speaker B:

So if somebody do something to me, I will fall back.

Speaker B:

But I will forgive you.

Speaker B:

And once you do it again, I'll never forgive you again.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

I give everybody grace.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

Everybody.

Speaker B:

And one thing about me, like, I'm not the type of person to where when I meet somebody, I automatically give you the benefit of doubt.

Speaker B:

To trust you.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker B:

You have to.

Speaker A:

You have to.

Speaker B:

You don't have to earn my trust.

Speaker B:

You will lose my trust.

Speaker A:

That's sis.

Speaker B:

When I'm healthy, you know, people be like, oh, you got to gain my trust.

Speaker B:

I'm the opposite.

Speaker A:

It's a.

Speaker A:

So let me explain this.

Speaker A:

It's a grading system.

Speaker A:

We start everybody as an A and let them work their way down.

Speaker A:

Most people start people at a C and let them work their way up or down.

Speaker A:

That's why I feel like we.

Speaker A:

We run across a lot of issues with people.

Speaker A:

They try to play us or think we suck us or think they could come at us kind of way because we give them all that trust.

Speaker B:

And people didn't.

Speaker A:

Did me, I didn't mean to.

Speaker A:

They try.

Speaker B:

I be like, they try.

Speaker A:

They TR me.

Speaker A:

They try.

Speaker A:

Okay, so I think we gotta just start putting people at a sea and let em work their way up and down.

Speaker A:

Cause I'm like that too.

Speaker B:

But we're all stuck in my ways and I just moved a certain way.

Speaker A:

But you still young, sis.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you young.

Speaker B:

I'm in my prime.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you young.

Speaker A:

And so am I.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm 43.

Speaker A:

I'm still young in my mind.

Speaker A:

And you know, I got a lot to learn and shit to do, so.

Speaker A:

But I even like now getting in the industry, being exposed, I've been coming across that, like how you said, starting people at that a.

Speaker A:

And it's not healthy.

Speaker B:

I always give people, I always hold people high.

Speaker B:

And then.

Speaker B:

Because you never know.

Speaker B:

And that's my problem.

Speaker B:

I trust.

Speaker B:

I trust too hard.

Speaker B:

But I got trust.

Speaker B:

Even though I trust you, I still got trust issues.

Speaker B:

I got trust issues.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker B:

We're all fucked up.

Speaker B:

But one thing about it is, I'm not gonna treat you a certain way just because I have trust issues.

Speaker B:

I'm not gonna let my trauma affect you until you show me otherwise.

Speaker A:

You trigger me.

Speaker B:

Can't Nobody else tell me nothing different until I see it, period.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

That's so me.

Speaker A:

This is why.

Speaker A:

This how I feel.

Speaker A:

Like, I know y' all probably gonna work just.

Speaker B:

I hope so.

Speaker B:

Cause I'm gonna love him.

Speaker A:

We compatible.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

We.

Speaker A:

I know you do.

Speaker A:

We compatible.

Speaker A:

I'm so sad.

Speaker A:

No, it's okay.

Speaker B:

I'm actually doing a lot better than what I thought.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, I got my little drinky drink.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

I ate some of my.

Speaker B:

But I got mine right here, and I'm cool.

Speaker B:

I'm.

Speaker B:

I pray I feel a little bit better I didn't already cry.

Speaker B:

And true.

Speaker B:

It is what it is.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And one thing we do do is we will move on you.

Speaker A:

I'm saying.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

I cried once or twice.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But I ain't gonna keep crying.

Speaker B:

No, no, no.

Speaker A:

You see what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Either you gonna take this what it is, or it's cool.

Speaker A:

I'm on to the next.

Speaker B:

I can go through the humiliation.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

I can go through the accountability process and.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker B:

Listen, don't let it go too far.

Speaker A:

That's us.

Speaker A:

I'm just.

Speaker A:

You heard her.

Speaker A:

Like, we'll.

Speaker A:

We'll.

Speaker A:

We'll try to fight.

Speaker B:

I will fight.

Speaker A:

You know?

Speaker B:

Especially when I know you feel me.

Speaker B:

I can.

Speaker B:

Especially when I know, like, all right,.

Speaker A:

If we did it.

Speaker A:

If we did something wrong.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Like being accountable.

Speaker A:

Well, yeah.

Speaker A:

You know what?

Speaker A:

Enough about these things.

Speaker A:

Let's talk about it.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Period.

Speaker A:

He got enough of the time.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

You got enough boyfriend or proposed husband, whatever the hell you want to be.

Speaker A:

So what's up?

Speaker A:

I know you be rapping.

Speaker B:

I love your wifey.

Speaker A:

I love your little music.

Speaker B:

I got so much new music.

Speaker B:

I just got into a independent label deal with gmc.

Speaker B:

Oh.

Speaker B:

Get money consistently.

Speaker A:

Wait, who's over there?

Speaker A:

Is that Yo Gotti?

Speaker B:

No, no.

Speaker B:

Gmc.

Speaker B:

Yo Gotti is cmg.

Speaker A:

I'm horrible.

Speaker B:

It's with TJ and Will.

Speaker A:

Oh, from Atlanta.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Shout out to them.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but we got a whole management team, so shout out to Varia.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And just everybody.

Speaker B:

The whole team.

Speaker B:

Like, we've been working.

Speaker B:

They believe in me.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

I believe in them.

Speaker B:

And we became We.

Speaker B:

We are in a partnership, and we just want to win and take what I got going on and what they got going on.

Speaker B:

Make it bigger, make it greater.

Speaker A:

I've been seeing you on the Gram.

Speaker A:

Like, when you perform the A, they love your butt.

Speaker A:

They go crazy when you out there.

Speaker A:

You be dancing.

Speaker A:

I be seeing.

Speaker B:

I be seeing y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Cause one thing about me, I'm an entertainer.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you.

Speaker B:

I like to have fun.

Speaker B:

You know, I want to get out there.

Speaker B:

It ain't about just shaking my butt.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

I got a nice butt.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And it's natural, by the way.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

But that, you know, twerk.

Speaker B:

Anybody can twerk.

Speaker B:

I can really dance.

Speaker B:

For real.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker B:

Like, I can get.

Speaker B:

I used to choreography, like, choreograph and all that good stuff.

Speaker B:

Like, I could really dance.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm.

Speaker B:

I'm a real entertainer.

Speaker B:

I could really, like, entertain in so many different ways.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And gravitate to my.

Speaker B:

My peers and my audience.

Speaker A:

That's what's up.

Speaker A:

I seen that.

Speaker A:

Like, I. I'm telling you, I've seen you.

Speaker A:

You always cute.

Speaker A:

Very fashionable.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

You know, I love me some fashion.

Speaker A:

I love a cutie that know how to take pride.

Speaker A:

Toes on point, nails on point.

Speaker A:

I just pay attention to everything.

Speaker A:

So you are it.

Speaker A:

I think you're a 10 out of 10.

Speaker B:

Super cute.

Speaker A:

Appreciate that great energy.

Speaker A:

When I met you and we met through Diamond.

Speaker A:

Shout out to Diamond.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Literally good vibes all the way around.

Speaker A:

And I'm coming to the A.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Come on.

Speaker B:

I'm excited.

Speaker A:

Today.

Speaker A:

I want to hit a strip club.

Speaker B:

Let's do it.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

What's the best one out there?

Speaker A:

Why do I hear no?

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

I'm thinking.

Speaker B:

They got so many strokers, pinups.

Speaker B:

Diamond Club, Magic City.

Speaker A:

I think that's it.

Speaker A:

Magic City.

Speaker A:

I think that's the number one dude.

Speaker B:

Allure.

Speaker B:

They gotta always go.

Speaker A:

It's a strong Magic City.

Speaker A:

Is that his name?

Speaker B:

Magic?

Speaker A:

Oh, I thought Mayweather.

Speaker A:

Maybe I'm thinking in Miami.

Speaker A:

I thought Mayweather on that.

Speaker A:

Maybe I'm thinking in Miami because I went to Magic City before, and boy, oh, boy, girl, they get you.

Speaker A:

They tries to get you.

Speaker A:

When I tell you I was nervous, baby, a day be on you, you know?

Speaker B:

See, they got the strip clubs, got good food.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm the type.

Speaker B:

I go to the strip club doing.

Speaker A:

Just to get good food.

Speaker B:

They got good food.

Speaker A:

I've never been.

Speaker A:

You know, we don't have none in the Bay.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

None.

Speaker A:

There's none in the Bay.

Speaker A:

None.

Speaker A:

Ain't that something?

Speaker A:

That's nothing.

Speaker B:

This is my first time out here, too.

Speaker A:

And I was just like, it's none, nothing San Francisco.

Speaker A:

But they not, like, let's just keep it 100.

Speaker A:

The big booty black girls, they're Caucasian.

Speaker A:

They don't have shapely, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So they're not popping like, but for.

Speaker B:

But, you know, shut down though.

Speaker B:

Is it Stunner Girl from here?

Speaker A:

Sack.

Speaker B:

Oh, Sacramento.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That's okay.

Speaker A:

That's kind of like.

Speaker A:

Is she from the Bay?

Speaker A:

If you want to go.

Speaker A:

They don't really call that.

Speaker B:

How far is that from here?

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

That's about an hour and a half too.

Speaker B:

That's not too far.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Because I. I like Stunner Girl.

Speaker A:

No, shout out to Stunner Girl.

Speaker A:

I got a girl personal number.

Speaker A:

She was actually, you know, she was a foster kid.

Speaker B:

I. I know her.

Speaker B:

I've.

Speaker B:

I've seen a little bit of her story, but I. I like how genuine and raw.

Speaker B:

Like, she remind me of me.

Speaker B:

Like, she just.

Speaker B:

Just blunt.

Speaker A:

Have you met her?

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

I might could link that up.

Speaker B:

Yeah, literally.

Speaker B:

I rock with Stunner Girl.

Speaker A:

I do love Stunner Girl.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker B:

I've been rocking with Stunner Girl for.

Speaker B:

Since I watched her whole come up.

Speaker A:

Let me tell you how 100 she is.

Speaker A:

When I first of all, I DMed her.

Speaker A:

This is probably like two, three months.

Speaker A:

I DMed her.

Speaker A:

She hit me back.

Speaker A:

Cause I'm like, hey, sis, I rock with the kids.

Speaker A:

I would love for you to come and, you know, be with my foster kid because, you know, I do the transitional housing.

Speaker A:

She hit me back and I was like, oh, shit.

Speaker B:

She hit me back.

Speaker A:

She was like, for sure, you know, I told her, I watched her story.

Speaker A:

She was a foster kid come up in group homes.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker B:

I was in group homes.

Speaker B:

For real?

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I didn't know that.

Speaker B:

See, now you know.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna link you up with Stunner Girl.

Speaker A:

Cause let me tell you what she told me, though.

Speaker A:

This is how I knew she a real one.

Speaker A:

And I mean real one.

Speaker A:

And shout out to Stunner Girl.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Stunner Girl.

Speaker B:

Like, shout out to.

Speaker B:

Hopefully we could work one day.

Speaker B:

Girl, I love Stunner Girl.

Speaker A:

I' link that up.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna link that up.

Speaker A:

Check this.

Speaker A:

She said that she went to take three of my foster youth shops.

Speaker A:

And I'm like, what?

Speaker A:

So I tell my foster, they super excited and she had a show.

Speaker A:

Something came up.

Speaker A:

She called me and offered me some racks just to take my kids shopping.

Speaker A:

And I respectfully declined.

Speaker A:

I thought that was the realest shit ever.

Speaker A:

I was floored because that wasn't a personal call.

Speaker A:

And to the fact that she noticed she missed the obligation and to offer monetary, you know, Just money.

Speaker A:

She didn't have to do that.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Cause she.

Speaker A:

A lot of people started doing her thing.

Speaker A:

She big to me.

Speaker A:

She rocking with Blueface.

Speaker A:

She's hot right now.

Speaker A:

She hot.

Speaker A:

She made that play with Blueface.

Speaker A:

Cause you know, he's the Internet king.

Speaker A:

So she got the song with him.

Speaker A:

And so I thought that made me look at her so different when she was like, offered us money for the program.

Speaker A:

That shit was so 100.

Speaker A:

So shout out to Stunner girl.

Speaker A:

And she called me Titi.

Speaker A:

Cause I respectfully declined.

Speaker A:

Most people would take it.

Speaker A:

And it ain't cause I got money.

Speaker A:

Cause I don't.

Speaker A:

It was more or less.

Speaker A:

I didn't want her to feel guilty and to just give money just to.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I told her, your presence is way more value.

Speaker B:

More value.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So that shows her character.

Speaker A:

Shout out to stunning.

Speaker B:

And that's why.

Speaker B:

You know what?

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

I know this interview been booked for months.

Speaker B:

Months.

Speaker B:

And I just lost my dad a.

Speaker A:

Month ago, and you still showed up.

Speaker B:

And I'm going through this.

Speaker B:

I'm going through a lot.

Speaker B:

I'm going through a mental breakdown right now.

Speaker B:

And I still.

Speaker B:

I cried in my hotel room.

Speaker B:

1.

Speaker B:

But, baby, I'm here.

Speaker A:

You should have called me.

Speaker B:

No, I like to go through things alone.

Speaker A:

That's our problem.

Speaker A:

That's another problem we got real, real bad.

Speaker A:

Because we'll sit there and cry our hard time.

Speaker A:

I did.

Speaker B:

When people make excuses, I just be listening.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm not big on excuses.

Speaker B:

Because I. I can't make an excuse.

Speaker B:

If I can make an excuse, I got plenty of reason to make an excuse.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but I hold a lot of people.

Speaker B:

I hold a lot of people, even myself, accountable.

Speaker B:

So I'm big on accountability and excuses.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't tolerate it.

Speaker A:

We ain't gonna even go into that.

Speaker A:

But you know, you right.

Speaker A:

You see, me.

Speaker A:

I don't.

Speaker A:

You say I cut it off real bad.

Speaker A:

And see, that's probably about.

Speaker A:

I should give people some grace though, too.

Speaker A:

You should.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker B:

Shut up.

Speaker A:

Cause I know what you do.

Speaker A:

I know you.

Speaker B:

You should.

Speaker B:

Because one thing about it, I do.

Speaker B:

I. I do give people grace.

Speaker B:

I don't just go cold turt.

Speaker B:

I give people.

Speaker B:

I do.

Speaker B:

Even though I don't like it.

Speaker B:

I could say I don't like something.

Speaker B:

I'm not for it.

Speaker B:

But I do give people the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker B:

But one time, one time, once, just.

Speaker A:

Once, I be Like.

Speaker A:

Cause time is money and money is value, valuable.

Speaker A:

So when you play with it, I don't do well with that.

Speaker A:

Like, I. I just.

Speaker A:

I don't do well with that.

Speaker A:

And so.

Speaker A:

But I think you is right.

Speaker A:

You know, I'm going to try because.

Speaker B:

Everybody is not like us.

Speaker A:

They not.

Speaker B:

Everybody don't think like us.

Speaker B:

Everybody's not as strong as us.

Speaker B:

Everybody's not as capable as us.

Speaker B:

Everybody is not able.

Speaker A:

You right.

Speaker B:

To even phantom was what was how to accept certain things and deal with it.

Speaker B:

You know, we're just one of the strong ones.

Speaker A:

You right.

Speaker B:

You know, and sometimes God will, you know, place people in certain people in our lives to be able to reflect.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And if we can reflect and.

Speaker B:

And, you know, and.

Speaker B:

And teach someone or let somebody lean on us and, you know, hopefully one thing about me is I learn from my mistakes.

Speaker A:

True.

Speaker B:

I'm not gonna make the same mistake twice.

Speaker B:

Ooh, preach.

Speaker A:

That's me too.

Speaker B:

So you have to give grace to somebody else because if they make that same mistake twice, then, you know, well, at least I tried.

Speaker B:

Least I.

Speaker B:

They didn't learn.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Not for real.

Speaker B:

This is how I move through life.

Speaker A:

No, you right.

Speaker A:

You are right.

Speaker B:

And I want people to have the same with me.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna give what I expect.

Speaker A:

You right.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

You were right.

Speaker A:

And I, you know, that's.

Speaker A:

I'm in therapy.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

For real.

Speaker B:

Everybody keeps telling me like, you need help.

Speaker B:

You need to get some help.

Speaker B:

And I was like, I don't need no help.

Speaker B:

I literally just reached out to some therapists.

Speaker B:

Like, I need some therapy.

Speaker A:

Shout out to grow therapy.

Speaker A:

If you got insurance, it's online.

Speaker A:

It got tons of different doctors, all different ethnic backgrounds.

Speaker A:

And I go every Thursday.

Speaker A:

Me and husband, we in marriage counseling, but, you know.

Speaker B:

Nice.

Speaker B:

So you mean.

Speaker B:

Hold on, let's get back to that.

Speaker B:

So you mean to tell me you divorced and got back together a month later?

Speaker A:

Three months.

Speaker B:

Three months later I did.

Speaker A:

I gave.

Speaker A:

Cause you know what?

Speaker A:

Like, kind of how you said a lot of it was me and you didn't already seen my cutoff game?

Speaker A:

It could be small stuff and trigger me in certain ways and I'm just gonna block you.

Speaker A:

I'm cool.

Speaker A:

I'm moving on.

Speaker A:

And that can be with anybody, husband, anybody.

Speaker A:

And that's something that I struggle with all my life.

Speaker A:

You know, it's not okay, right?

Speaker A:

Somebody told me, only God can remove people out your life.

Speaker A:

And that's facts.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Cause God and that's crazy because the realize, like I always, like I just told my mom, you know, I tell my mom it's not that I'm depressed.

Speaker B:

I'm going through.

Speaker B:

I'm emotionally unstable.

Speaker A:

There you go.

Speaker B:

Because it's one thing to be able to.

Speaker B:

Can't control certain things, but when you can control certain things and you let your emotions take effect, that's a different type of illness.

Speaker A:

It is.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And one thing that I know, like, I know my dad's never coming back.

Speaker B:

I can't never call my dad.

Speaker B:

I can, you know, he's deceased.

Speaker B:

But I don't want to make it.

Speaker B:

I don't want to make it seem like my relationship is dead.

Speaker A:

It's not.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

But that's what it feel like.

Speaker B:

It feel like my relationship is dead.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And I don't want that to be because that's something I can control.

Speaker B:

Because we are still very much alive, you know, and we're very much accessible.

Speaker B:

And it's like, I can control that.

Speaker B:

My dad, I can control.

Speaker B:

He's gone.

Speaker B:

Ain't no phone call, ain't no text, ain't no I forgive you a month later from now.

Speaker B:

So if I know I can control this situation, we're very much so.

Speaker B:

And I know I can forgive you a month or two later.

Speaker B:

Why even go through the emotion?

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Why not just come back to common ground and just move forward?

Speaker A:

Life.

Speaker B:

Life is too short for time.

Speaker B:

We don't have time.

Speaker A:

But no, but sometimes you got to think within time comes growth too.

Speaker A:

You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I needed time from him to actually realize a lot of it was me.

Speaker A:

If I didn't take that time, we would go back to the same shit and be bickering.

Speaker A:

So that time made me actually reflect on me.

Speaker B:

See, I'm different.

Speaker A:

Oh, it was me.

Speaker B:

I'm different.

Speaker A:

It was me.

Speaker B:

I want to go through the.

Speaker B:

I want to go through the stages together because life too short.

Speaker B:

Because what if I was just angry at my dad and mad at my dad and we wasn't seeing eye to eye?

Speaker B:

Cause it's been plenty of times.

Speaker B:

I went through all of our text messages and I just seen the times where we was arguing and I went and apologized or he came apologizing.

Speaker B:

We just like, you know, what if we was going through that phase where we needed time and now time is gone.

Speaker B:

It ain't no making us.

Speaker A:

But with time.

Speaker A:

No, you gotta.

Speaker A:

You get, you.

Speaker A:

You grow like you have to self reflect.

Speaker A:

You can't self reflect if it ain't no time.

Speaker A:

How you gonna know where you went wrong if you don't have time to self reflect?

Speaker B:

Because it takes a lot of maturity.

Speaker A:

It do.

Speaker A:

Now if y' all went together and maybe did some therapy, you know, came to some common ground like that, then it, you need an outsider tell you, hey, you did.

Speaker A:

Woo woo.

Speaker A:

Hey, you need to accept that she.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

But if it's just y' all and it was heated time is I think is the best thing to heal it and to possibly bring it back.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And that's just me.

Speaker B:

And I agree with that.

Speaker B:

I agree to disagree.

Speaker A:

I know I'm different only because I.

Speaker B:

Just lost my, I just lost my dad and you know, and only because I just know, like I've been through that and it's just like life is too short.

Speaker B:

I know he was.

Speaker A:

Why you take the ring off?

Speaker B:

I threw my ring.

Speaker A:

I knew.

Speaker A:

See what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

That's that bull.

Speaker B:

But see, nobody talked.

Speaker A:

Cause I pondered mine and went and got another one.

Speaker A:

Did you?

Speaker A:

I did.

Speaker B:

Oh, okay.

Speaker B:

So he made me so mad I threw my ring on social media.

Speaker B:

But it was on my, it was on my.

Speaker B:

It was on my close friends.

Speaker B:

So only nine people seen it.

Speaker B:

Only nine people.

Speaker B:

And one of them just so happened to be my friend and she said something to him about it.

Speaker B:

Like, what's going on with this?

Speaker B:

If she would have never did that, he would have never seen it.

Speaker B:

Cause he's not in my close friends.

Speaker B:

Nine people seen it.

Speaker B:

It was up there for like 15 minutes and I did it and I regret it and I just, I don't feel, I just haven't put it back on yet.

Speaker A:

Put it back on.

Speaker A:

Put it back on.

Speaker A:

I mean to me it's like jinxing it.

Speaker A:

Put it back on.

Speaker B:

Like, you know, I want to, but I want to.

Speaker B:

I would love to put my ring back on.

Speaker B:

But the things, how he feel and things he been saying, it don't make me feel ornery to do it.

Speaker A:

Well, he's just in his feelings.

Speaker A:

That's why I said time.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And hopefully if he see this, he like, dang, this one broad really do love me.

Speaker A:

Cuz she went on a national whoopty woo and said something.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And my thing is, you know, we didn't got into it plenty of time.

Speaker B:

He done took his ring back a couple times and I forgave you.

Speaker B:

I'mma put it back on.

Speaker A:

That's what I'm telling you.

Speaker B:

I don't feel it's.

Speaker A:

Just.

Speaker A:

Put it back on.

Speaker A:

Don't worry.

Speaker B:

It's very uncomfortable.

Speaker A:

Uncomfortable.

Speaker A:

Put it back on.

Speaker A:

Put it back on.

Speaker A:

Trust me, it.

Speaker A:

To me, it's in my mind, like faith.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Hope.

Speaker A:

That's how I look at it.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And it's a reminder that, okay, maybe I'm gonna continue to just work on.

Speaker B:

Me, but anyways, I'm gonna put it back on.

Speaker A:

We did good.

Speaker A:

I love this interview.

Speaker A:

I haven't had that many women on my platform.

Speaker A:

I need more women.

Speaker A:

It's always men, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, I like to have these women conversations about open relationships and, you know what I mean, talking about our personal lives and stuff like that.

Speaker A:

I think women need to see that, especially being in the industry, you know, and dating somebody in the industry.

Speaker A:

They need to see that.

Speaker A:

But you know me, Dr. Stanz, because I think you are beautiful and you're a gift, and you gifted me.

Speaker A:

Even through your tough time, she still showed up.

Speaker A:

Of course.

Speaker A:

I have to have something for you.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

I want you to look under your seat.

Speaker A:

Oh, there's something under there.

Speaker A:

And you see it?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I have to definitely get you something.

Speaker A:

And of course, the copy of my book.

Speaker B:

Yes, ma'.

Speaker B:

Am.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I got you the multicolor.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

I kind of told her.

Speaker B:

I got.

Speaker A:

Look, I got you the multicolor.

Speaker B:

They got all my favorite colors in here, period.

Speaker B:

This is literally all my favorite colors.

Speaker A:

Y' all see her?

Speaker A:

So I'm just so happy you came to see me.

Speaker A:

Y' all here come to see me, like.

Speaker A:

And I'm returning favor because I'm coming back and we going to turn up.

Speaker A:

I'm going.

Speaker A:

Take care.

Speaker B:

I need me a new robe.

Speaker A:

Yes, I know.

Speaker A:

I got all colors.

Speaker A:

I'm just terrible.

Speaker B:

This is so nice of you.

Speaker B:

Thank you so much.

Speaker B:

I love this.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And I got you my book, too, from.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Yo, shout out.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

But I do.

Speaker A:

Thank you for coming, I think.

Speaker B:

Thank you so much.

Speaker A:

Oh, I'm gonna be in Atlanta literally, like, what, two days, Percy.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

We fly out in two days, so I'm a buggy.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

So be on the lookout.

Speaker A:

Y' all see her.

Speaker A:

Any last thing you want to tell the camera, tell the people to keep your boo.

Speaker B:

Listen, I'm human.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

I am a public figure, celebrity, all that good things.

Speaker B:

I'm in the industry, but you feel me.

Speaker B:

I'm relatable, you know, like, I'm a lover girl.

Speaker B:

I'm a fighter.

Speaker B:

I go through things.

Speaker B:

I'm going through a lot of mental issues right now, and I'm honest.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And I just want to be able to relate, you know, to.

Speaker B:

To people out there that's going through something, whether it's a, you know, a death in the family, a breakup, family issues, whatever y' all got going on.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm not here to judge.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm a listening ear, and, you know, I make my music.

Speaker B:

I make music for everybody.

Speaker B:

I have a song for everybody.

Speaker B:

Tap into my music, tap into my interviews, and just get to know me before you judge me, period.

Speaker A:

What's your Instagram?

Speaker B:

Let them know where to find S S underscore.

Speaker B:

Raindrop, raindrop, raindrop?

Speaker A:

We out.

Speaker A:

Y' all.

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Turning Hustle Into Legacy with Dr. Stance
Turning Hustle Into Legacy is a purpose-driven podcast hosted by Dr. Stance, entrepreneur, visionary, and leader in impact-focused business. The show dives into what it truly takes to build success that lasts—financially, personally, and generationally. Each episode features honest, in-depth conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, and community leaders who are redefining success on their own terms. Guests unpack the real stories behind their journeys—from side hustles to scalable brands, from setbacks to breakthroughs—sharing the mindset, strategies, and discipline required to turn ambition into meaningful impact. With no fluff and no filters, Turning Hustle Into Legacy delivers raw insight, actionable lessons, and powerful perspectives on leadership, resilience, and growth. Whether you’re launching a business, scaling a brand, or stepping into your next level of purpose, this podcast provides the clarity and momentum needed to build something that outlives the grind. This is where hustle becomes legacy.
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Dr. Audra Stance

Education & Professional Background

Dr. Stance holds a Ph.D. in Psychology with a concentration in Trauma-Informed Care, providing a strong clinical and academic foundation for the work led across all programs and initiatives. This advanced training informs Dr. Stance’s approach to mental health advocacy, foster care reform, mentorship, and community-based services, ensuring practices are evidence-informed, ethically grounded, and responsive to the impacts of trauma.

Dr. Stance’s work is deeply informed by lived experience shaped by childhood trauma, providing a personal and empathetic understanding of the challenges faced by foster youth and system-impacted individuals. Having navigated early adversity, instability, and the long-term effects of trauma, Dr. Stance brings both professional expertise and personal insight to the development of programs that prioritize safety, trust, and empowerment. This lived experience strengthens Dr. Stance’s connection to foster youth and individuals in care, allowing for services that are not only clinically sound but also grounded in compassion, relatability, and authenticity. Rather than approaching trauma from theory alone, Dr. Stance integrates real-world understanding into mentorship, program design, and leadership—ensuring individuals feel seen, supported, and capable of growth beyond their circumstances.

Dr. Stance is a purpose-driven leader, author, and mental health advocate dedicated to transforming hustle into sustainable legacy. As the founder and CEO of the non-profit, BWIT Luxurious Fostering, Dr. Stance is redefining trauma-informed care for foster youth and adults through dignity, structure, and empowerment. Dr. Stance is the creator and host of the podcast Turning Hustle Into Legacy, where discipline, faith, mindset, and leadership intersect to build generational impact. An author of From a Hoe to C.E.O., Dr. Stance uses lived experience, mentorship, and mental health advocacy to help individuals move from survival to purpose.