Episode 27

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Published on:

18th May 2026

Smiley: From Baddies to Betterment

Dr. Stantce and Smiley dive into a heartwarming and candid conversation that touches on personal growth, resilience, and the challenges faced by young parents. Right off the bat, we explore the profound impact of Smiley's journey, from her experiences in foster care to becoming a mother at a young age. The episode is filled with laughter, real talk, and even a few tears as they discuss how past struggles shaped their present. We also dig into the importance of support systems, as both Dr. Stance and Smiley reflect on their loved ones who played pivotal roles in their lives. Whether you're a parent, a young adult, or just someone looking for a dose of inspiration, this episode promises to resonate and uplift!

Transcript
Speaker A:

Foreign.

Speaker A:

Y' all know who y' all tuning in with.

Speaker A:

Dr. Stanton, turning your hustle to a legacy.

Speaker A:

And let me tell you, today is a real good one.

Speaker B:

My check, my check.

Speaker A:

I got me Swayley from Dubattis.

Speaker A:

The one and only my pudding.

Speaker A:

I was so happy to get in contact with this one right here.

Speaker A:

She tickles me pink.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

And we got special things for Miss Smiley.

Speaker A:

But what's up, boo?

Speaker B:

What's up, auntie?

Speaker B:

You know, I've been excited.

Speaker B:

I've been waiting to come.

Speaker B:

This is about to be so much fun.

Speaker B:

First off, I definitely want to give you your flowers.

Speaker B:

You know, you do so much for the kids, the youth and families out here, and it's very much noticed.

Speaker B:

Like, you can see, you can hear it.

Speaker B:

And I definitely want to give you your flowers from the rip.

Speaker A:

You.

Speaker B:

You definitely deserve that.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, if you don't know, now, you know, period.

Speaker B:

She for the.

Speaker B:

She for the streets.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

In real life.

Speaker A:

In real life, it's the line for me.

Speaker A:

I love it.

Speaker B:

I love it.

Speaker A:

Okay, look, is you cool.

Speaker A:

So let's get right into it.

Speaker A:

As you said, you know, I work with the foster youth and everybody know you from baddies, but let's just keep it one.

Speaker A:

I was like, I don't even give a crap about none of that.

Speaker A:

To be honest.

Speaker A:

I wanted you on my show because, like, you had mentioned on one of the shows, you came up in the foster care.

Speaker A:

And that's what I do.

Speaker A:

And so I think, to me, I created this platform because everybody know Smiley from tv, but I be liking this platform for people to know Chris style.

Speaker A:

You see what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

That's who she is.

Speaker A:

That's Cristal.

Speaker A:

You need some Cristal.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

So I feel like with celebrities and y' all been on the tv and you know, my kids watch and love all y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

Y' all know that, right?

Speaker A:

Shout out to dtb, who is here?

Speaker A:

And you supposed to be giving me Mariah.

Speaker A:

Yes, I'm blasting Mariah.

Speaker B:

Mariah here.

Speaker B:

She definitely.

Speaker B:

Mariah, she definitely loves you.

Speaker B:

So we definitely got to get your opinions from.

Speaker A:

From a hoe to a CEO.

Speaker A:

You see the book, it's serious.

Speaker A:

It's for real.

Speaker A:

And I got you a copy anyway.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker B:

But no, it's definitely serious.

Speaker B:

Matter of fact, let me see if I can get Mariah on the phone, let her know.

Speaker A:

Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker B:

What's her.

Speaker A:

Once upon a time, not long ago, I was.

Speaker A:

I used to slap that.

Speaker A:

And all my friends used to be like, this ducking, and I'm like, what you ducking for?

Speaker B:

Listen, Mariah.

Speaker B:

Mariah is a phenomenal person when you get to know her, she's an amazing human being.

Speaker B:

She has great personality.

Speaker A:

First of all, we come from the same thing, so I can only imagine, right?

Speaker B:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Listen, when I tell you she's different, man.

Speaker B:

Girl.

Speaker B:

New York, right?

Speaker A:

She from New York?

Speaker B:

Yeah, she's from New York.

Speaker A:

I just came back from New York, what, four days ago, I think.

Speaker A:

Percy.

Speaker A:

I was in New York.

Speaker B:

Was that what part of New York you was in?

Speaker A:

We went everywhere, you know, I had to go to the hood, I went to Portland, we went to the Bronx, we went to Queens.

Speaker A:

I bought my mink coat with Daniel's leather.

Speaker A:

I know you know.

Speaker B:

Oh, you ain't the Daniels.

Speaker A:

Have to.

Speaker B:

Honey, make sure you check it out.

Speaker B:

Daniel ain't no gang, hear me?

Speaker A:

But I do need my Pelle Pelle.

Speaker A:

I didn't give me a Pele pellet because I had way too much luggage, but I did get my mink.

Speaker B:

Let them know she needs one.

Speaker B:

Drop the P.O.

Speaker B:

Box.

Speaker B:

Please, please, please.

Speaker B:

She needs one for real.

Speaker A:

I. I really.

Speaker B:

Sister.

Speaker B:

That's her.

Speaker B:

Listen, I'm on an interview right now.

Speaker B:

Listen, I'm with Auntie right now.

Speaker B:

I'm in an interview.

Speaker B:

And she love you, okay?

Speaker B:

She wants.

Speaker B:

She wants to bring you.

Speaker B:

She wants to bring you to her city, and she wants to get you for an interview.

Speaker B:

And she loves you.

Speaker A:

Tell her.

Speaker A:

From a ho to a CEO man.

Speaker B:

Once upon a time, not long ago, I was a ho.

Speaker B:

Hello, Mariah.

Speaker B:

Once upon a time, not long ago, I was a ho.

Speaker B:

And I'm admitted it.

Speaker B:

Listen, Mariah's really my sister.

Speaker A:

Look, show her my book.

Speaker B:

Look.

Speaker B:

From a hoe to a CEO Listen.

Speaker A:

It's a language that they don't really can speak.

Speaker A:

Honey, if you don't know, they don't know.

Speaker B:

We gonna set it up.

Speaker B:

I'mma set it up.

Speaker B:

We gonna set it up, y', all hear?

Speaker B:

Mariah.

Speaker B:

Leon.

Speaker B:

I love you, sister.

Speaker B:

Bye.

Speaker B:

Love you.

Speaker A:

Now.

Speaker B:

I love you.

Speaker B:

Are you saying you have a baby?

Speaker B:

On the way st y', all,.

Speaker A:

We.

Speaker B:

Still gotta add enough numbers.

Speaker A:

I'm seeing it.

Speaker A:

Okay, Shawn, let' to the camera so you can do the whole introduction for what this is here.

Speaker A:

Oh, we all know that Miss Smile, her favorite is tea.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

So we brought her a whole thing.

Speaker A:

The chamomile tea with the honey and the chamomile tea.

Speaker B:

Listen, every night before I go to bed, this is all I drink.

Speaker B:

I don't drink soda.

Speaker B:

I don't drink juice.

Speaker B:

It's this right here.

Speaker B:

It.

Speaker B:

It soothes me.

Speaker B:

It just gives me my grandma vibes.

Speaker B:

There's always something.

Speaker A:

I'm coffee.

Speaker A:

I'm all messed up.

Speaker B:

Is that Starbucks?

Speaker B:

Oh, Starbucks.

Speaker B:

She needs a deal.

Speaker B:

Please, let's get her a sponsorship.

Speaker A:

Look, we got her a straw.

Speaker A:

It's a whole.

Speaker B:

Oh my God.

Speaker B:

When I tell you this is amazing.

Speaker B:

So I put two to three bags.

Speaker A:

I knew you would.

Speaker A:

That's why.

Speaker B:

Cause I like it strong.

Speaker A:

That's exactly why I put that like that.

Speaker B:

And I'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker B:

It's just I want people to remember me.

Speaker B:

Like smiley.

Speaker B:

Like the foot drink chamomile tea.

Speaker A:

Didn't I tell y' all I was gonna get it?

Speaker B:

You know what?

Speaker B:

You did and I thought you were going to forget.

Speaker B:

No, cuz I'm like, she's going to forget.

Speaker B:

Auntie going to forget.

Speaker B:

But look, I kept my word.

Speaker B:

I called, I called Mariah with.

Speaker B:

Listen, let me tell you, she's been asking for Mariah for so long.

Speaker B:

I have.

Speaker B:

I feel like she love her more than me.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker A:

No, she didn't put me on blast like that.

Speaker A:

I love everybody equally.

Speaker B:

But I will say she loves her more than me.

Speaker A:

One thing about smiley is she a real one, okay?

Speaker B:

If I say something, I'mma do it period.

Speaker A:

And I respect that.

Speaker A:

To the full list.

Speaker A:

You definitely became one of my favorite baddies.

Speaker B:

You know what, cuz you.

Speaker B:

You a fool niece.

Speaker A:

You funny though.

Speaker A:

You know that, right?

Speaker A:

What's your sign?

Speaker A:

Did I. I feel like I asked.

Speaker B:

I'mma cancel.

Speaker B:

Oh my God.

Speaker B:

What did.

Speaker B:

I remember you said.

Speaker A:

What do I just attract water signs?

Speaker A:

It's something in the air.

Speaker A:

Okay, okay.

Speaker A:

He.

Speaker A:

He go through that.

Speaker A:

We go.

Speaker A:

We go through this Virgo thing.

Speaker A:

What's your sign over there?

Speaker A:

This smiley.

Speaker A:

Little cute friend if you want to get in the kid, period.

Speaker A:

What's your.

Speaker A:

What's the birthday on the 19th?

Speaker B:

She fried, man.

Speaker A:

See, it's a movie.

Speaker B:

That one in the cut is fried.

Speaker A:

But you love her to death though.

Speaker B:

She's amazing.

Speaker A:

See that?

Speaker B:

I'm thankful she ain't going nowhere.

Speaker A:

See, that's crazy.

Speaker A:

That was my ex husband.

Speaker A:

It didn't work.

Speaker A:

But that's another topic.

Speaker A:

Let's get back to my smiley and shout out to Mariah Lynn.

Speaker A:

From a ho to a CEO.

Speaker A:

I need to see that.

Speaker B:

That.

Speaker A:

Listen, like she said hoes to relate.

Speaker A:

But you know, like I said, I think it was one episode where you really like and like I Said I'm not into talking about the whole baddie thing.

Speaker A:

This ain't Zeus right here.

Speaker A:

This is turning Hustle into legacy with Dr. Stance.

Speaker A:

But what I did notice on that one episode where you.

Speaker A:

I felt like that was genuine.

Speaker A:

Cause I know a lot of that stuff be.

Speaker A:

But with that moment and you talking about where you was talking about your life, like you was going through real stuff.

Speaker A:

I felt like it.

Speaker A:

You was talking about being in foster care, how they don't know you like that.

Speaker A:

Like, this is when you was fresh on the scene.

Speaker A:

You was fresh, and you fought your way here.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

I went through a lot.

Speaker B:

I went through a lot, you know, growing up.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So I wasn't really, like, in the foster.

Speaker B:

Foster care, but I was under DCF for the rest.

Speaker B:

For half of my life, actually, probably till I was 17, 16.

Speaker B:

And I had.

Speaker B:

I had.

Speaker B:

I had.

Speaker B:

I had a blessing.

Speaker B:

My grandma was my blessing.

Speaker B:

She took me same, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I went through a lot of things.

Speaker B:

Like, it could have got it bad, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And without her stepping up to try to help me, I probably would have been a disaster right now.

Speaker B:

Same.

Speaker B:

It's so crazy.

Speaker B:

Like, my grandma really was the person who really saved me through a lot.

Speaker B:

My parents.

Speaker B:

My parents were young, you know, like, you know how that is.

Speaker B:

And I was.

Speaker B:

I didn't really care.

Speaker B:

Like, I just wanted to run the streets.

Speaker B:

I felt like my daddy, My mama didn't love me, you know?

Speaker B:

Like, I just felt abandoned in my own home, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Because everybody, it's like, you're there, but you're really not there.

Speaker A:

Did they work a lot?

Speaker A:

What was the situation?

Speaker A:

Drugs.

Speaker B:

Like, my parents was on coke.

Speaker B:

My daddy was on coke.

Speaker B:

Same.

Speaker B:

My mom was sick.

Speaker B:

My mom has cancer.

Speaker B:

My mom is an amazing person.

Speaker B:

I don't take that from her.

Speaker B:

But I feel like with my mom's upbringing, she hasn't really accepted the fact that the things she's gonna curse me out for, even talking about stuff like this.

Speaker B:

She hates me mentioning her past.

Speaker B:

And anything I say in interviews or to anybody, she hates it.

Speaker B:

But realistically, hopefully, like, one day, she really gets it.

Speaker B:

Like, you went through what you went through, but look at you now.

Speaker B:

That's what you need to look at.

Speaker B:

You're an amazing mom.

Speaker B:

You're an amazing grandmother.

Speaker B:

We love you.

Speaker B:

We thank you.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

But sometimes you have to really forget what you went through.

Speaker B:

Being homeless, you know, Sleeping on.

Speaker B:

On the floor, y' all sleeping all on one.

Speaker B:

One bedroom apartments where your grandmother, you know, your mom.

Speaker B:

My grandma was on drugs.

Speaker B:

My great.

Speaker B:

Well, her mom is my grandma.

Speaker B:

Yeah, my.

Speaker B:

My grandma was on drugs in the streets.

Speaker B:

They were looking for her.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Nobody can find my grandma.

Speaker B:

But it's okay.

Speaker B:

Your dad wasn't in the picture.

Speaker B:

He got like 15 kids you didn't raise.

Speaker B:

Okay, whatever.

Speaker B:

At the end of the day, you made some great kids that really love you and want you to know that it's okay, but you have to really.

Speaker B:

Like, she went through the situation with my sister.

Speaker B:

Not raising her like that affects my mom.

Speaker B:

She's gonna hate me for talking about this, but it's like.

Speaker A:

It's your story, though.

Speaker B:

It's my story because it affects me now because it's like I love my sister.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

How many siblings you got?

Speaker B:

Too many.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

Too many.

Speaker B:

I even got a little brother I've seen probably twice in my life.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

Baby brother.

Speaker B:

I think he's like six or seven.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

So, wait, how many kids your mom have?

Speaker B:

My mom is three of us.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah, three of us.

Speaker B:

And then her grandkids.

Speaker B:

So it's like, sis, all of us is like six.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

That's a lot.

Speaker B:

Grandkids become your kids.

Speaker A:

Hell, yeah.

Speaker A:

We grandkids of our grandparents.

Speaker B:

So, you know, and it's just.

Speaker B:

She just don't understand how to let it go.

Speaker B:

Like, I really wish that my mom, she feels guilty.

Speaker B:

She wants to give my sister now the world and stuff for everything she's done in the past.

Speaker B:

Like, she feels like she owes my sister time and all this.

Speaker B:

And I don't want her to feel like this.

Speaker B:

Like, mom, we appreciate you.

Speaker B:

You don't have to go beyond right now.

Speaker B:

I wish.

Speaker B:

My mom won't even take, like, you know, I want her to stop working.

Speaker B:

I told her, let me pay off your house.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I want to do this and that and this and that.

Speaker B:

She don't want me to do anything, but it's like, mom, I want you to just to acknowledge that you hate me now.

Speaker B:

My mom has, like, a hate for me.

Speaker B:

I don't know if it's jealousy or nothing, but she'll be there.

Speaker B:

But I know deep inside she hates me for something.

Speaker B:

I don't know if it's because of something that I did when it came with my.

Speaker B:

With my daddy leaving, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I made my dad leave the house.

Speaker B:

For everything I was doing.

Speaker B:

I was running away from home, stealing, robbing, dealing drugs.

Speaker B:

Like, I think that put a lot of pressure on my family too, with DCF knocking on the door every week, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Me bringing weapons to school, that really affects my family.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

People get tired.

Speaker B:

Like, you don't gotta deal with this shit no more type of shit.

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker B:

So, yeah.

Speaker B:

So at the end of the day, my back was against the wall.

Speaker B:

I was like, what do I do now?

Speaker B:

But I really didn't give a F. Like, I just wanted to do me.

Speaker B:

But then it came to, like, you know what?

Speaker B:

Like, I ended up getting pregnant.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And I think that was the best thing I ever did, was get pregnant.

Speaker A:

Same.

Speaker B:

I think me getting.

Speaker B:

It changed my life.

Speaker A:

Mine too.

Speaker B:

I swear to God.

Speaker A:

How old was you?

Speaker B:

I was 15 years old.

Speaker B:

15.

Speaker B:

If anybody knows, I will give my life right now for my kid.

Speaker B:

I love my child.

Speaker B:

My son is my life, bro.

Speaker B:

My son and me done went through hell and back.

Speaker B:

I'm pushing my baby.

Speaker B:

You mess up my makeup.

Speaker A:

Smiley, please, I don't want to go, bro.

Speaker B:

I pushed my son in, in, in.

Speaker B:

In his stroller, pregnant, leaving me and my baby.

Speaker B:

Like it was so bad in my house.

Speaker B:

Like I. I left my house with my baby.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I'm still young.

Speaker B:

I'm 15.

Speaker B:

So they're freaking out.

Speaker B:

They.

Speaker A:

Where you go?

Speaker A:

Where you go?

Speaker B:

I'm sleeping at my friend's houses on the floor.

Speaker B:

I'm sleeping on benches.

Speaker B:

Even though I had a roof over my head.

Speaker B:

I was unhappy.

Speaker B:

Nobody understand.

Speaker B:

I was touched when I was a child.

Speaker A:

Why?

Speaker A:

I was just finna ask you that.

Speaker B:

I was touched when I was a child, I was raped in school, in a school ground.

Speaker B:

I hated school.

Speaker B:

I hated school.

Speaker B:

I don't like.

Speaker B:

Now I'm able to talk about it because I talked about it so much.

Speaker B:

And I'm not mad no more.

Speaker B:

But it's like when I came to my mama to tell her this happened to me, she didn't believe me.

Speaker B:

She didn't believe me.

Speaker A:

My mother went through that with my grandmother.

Speaker B:

She argued with my mama and my grandma.

Speaker B:

I have files like this full of all my paperwork from going to BRO it got so bad that my mom was putting me in psych wards.

Speaker B:

Cause she didn't want to deal with me.

Speaker B:

She felt like I was ruining her marriage.

Speaker A:

Was that your dad?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Biological dad.

Speaker B:

My biological dad.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

And I always pick my daddy's side, bro.

Speaker A:

Mm.

Speaker B:

I love my dad.

Speaker B:

My dad is the coolest dude in the world.

Speaker B:

I love my dad.

Speaker A:

Y' all still cool now, too?

Speaker A:

No, he passed or he.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker B:

It's just more of like he's.

Speaker B:

I went to his house recently and said, dad, what's up?

Speaker B:

He's like, consider me dad.

Speaker B:

His wife came out and looked at him like, say what you need to say, but I'm your daughter, bro.

Speaker B:

I'm still your little girl, bro.

Speaker B:

The blood that runs through me is the blood that runs through you.

Speaker B:

If I was to die right now, I promise you, if I was to be dying in the hospital and need a blood transfusion, my daddy would not come and save me.

Speaker A:

Why do you think it's like that?

Speaker A:

Why is it like that?

Speaker B:

Because I put everybody through some shit.

Speaker A:

But you was a kid.

Speaker B:

No, it's just.

Speaker B:

It was a lot.

Speaker B:

It was a lot.

Speaker B:

Pulling guns.

Speaker B:

I still live.

Speaker B:

I still live with something in my heart that has hurt me to this day.

Speaker B:

I put my hands on my mama.

Speaker B:

Oh, I brought my mama, too.

Speaker B:

Do you know how that shit make me feel to this day?

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

I gotta live with that.

Speaker B:

I gotta see God about that.

Speaker A:

But one thing you let me tell you, I gotta interject.

Speaker A:

He's a forgiving God, and you was.

Speaker B:

A baby, and I get that.

Speaker A:

I know, but you was a baby and you didn't know.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

I will never forget the day that my dad packed up his clothes.

Speaker B:

He said, I'm gonna go do a heart test.

Speaker B:

My dad said he wasn't feeling good.

Speaker B:

My dad went, did the heart test, and he got 1,000 calls from me and my mama.

Speaker B:

Cause me and my mom was just arguing, arguing, arguing.

Speaker B:

He ain't even come in the house to talk.

Speaker B:

He left his heart test with all the stuff on his chest and came and packed up all his shit and he never came back.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker B:

I could tell you exactly what he was wearing.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker B:

I remember everything.

Speaker B:

I could.

Speaker B:

It's so weird.

Speaker B:

It's so weird what I'm about to say, but I could still remember the scent in my house.

Speaker A:

It's not weird.

Speaker B:

I could smell it.

Speaker B:

I can.

Speaker B:

I can't.

Speaker B:

I can't.

Speaker B:

I can smell everything.

Speaker B:

I can remember the whole scenery, and it's so weird.

Speaker B:

Like, I can.

Speaker B:

I can really.

Speaker B:

I relive that moment.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, if I sit here every day and think about it, I could relive that moment.

Speaker B:

Because I remember everything.

Speaker B:

And it's uncomfortable.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But it's like I be trying to Be such a good person.

Speaker B:

I really do.

Speaker B:

I want to be the best person.

Speaker B:

I just don't want to be played with.

Speaker B:

Like, nobody understand me.

Speaker A:

I do.

Speaker B:

I know, but it's like, I do.

Speaker A:

I take off these leggings.

Speaker B:

You know what my biggest.

Speaker B:

You know what my biggest fear is?

Speaker A:

Take off my lashes.

Speaker B:

You know my biggest fear is?

Speaker B:

Losing my grandma.

Speaker A:

Give me a hug.

Speaker B:

That's my biggest fear.

Speaker B:

I swear to God, if my grandma died, I'm finna be, oh, hurt, bro.

Speaker A:

And it's crazy because I can relate because I lost mine two years ago and my mother, so.

Speaker B:

And I'm so scared.

Speaker A:

I lost both mine because I just.

Speaker B:

Want to make it right.

Speaker B:

I just want to make it right with everybody.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, I want.

Speaker B:

Like, I really trying to change, bro.

Speaker B:

So two days before filming Baddies, I lost my great grandma.

Speaker B:

And it hurt me so bad.

Speaker B:

So bad, so bad.

Speaker A:

And I tell you this, they'll be proud of you now, though.

Speaker A:

Cause you doing your thing.

Speaker B:

I'm just.

Speaker B:

I know, but it just.

Speaker B:

It hurt me.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, a lot of people don't know what I go through in my daily life.

Speaker B:

They just see Smiley's Hammer baddies, all these seizures.

Speaker B:

They see that.

Speaker B:

They don't really know me, bro.

Speaker B:

They don't really know me.

Speaker B:

They don't know I don't show them.

Speaker B:

When I go out and feed the homeless, they don't go see me helping kids in schools.

Speaker B:

Go see the kids after school, go take pictures with them, make them happy.

Speaker A:

They don't see that.

Speaker A:

She asked me too, if I knew any schools that she can go to and talk to the kids.

Speaker A:

So I see it, sis.

Speaker A:

I do.

Speaker B:

They don't see it.

Speaker B:

But you know what I'm saying, when I sit here and I tell them, bro, fuck all that fighter shit.

Speaker B:

There's some bitches out here that don't even know how to fight.

Speaker B:

They don't even get in the paint.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So I don't care about all that fighting.

Speaker B:

What do you bring to the table for real?

Speaker B:

What changes do you bring in this world?

Speaker B:

Cause I know me.

Speaker B:

I know what I can bring.

Speaker B:

I know what I bring.

Speaker B:

I like to talk to little girls and little boys who's running away from home.

Speaker B:

I want to talk to them.

Speaker B:

I want to hug them.

Speaker B:

I want to let them know everything.

Speaker B:

Like, this is what can happen out there.

Speaker B:

There's bad people out there.

Speaker B:

You leave from home where you think you're not Safe.

Speaker B:

Where nobody's really hurting you in the house.

Speaker B:

But if you go out there in the street, they don't care about you.

Speaker B:

They want to take advantage of you.

Speaker A:

It's the worst out there.

Speaker A:

It's the worst.

Speaker B:

But they don't know that.

Speaker B:

They don't know that.

Speaker A:

They don't.

Speaker A:

They don't because I didn't.

Speaker B:

But you know what?

Speaker B:

You know why they want to do that?

Speaker B:

They want to find an escape because they're not happy.

Speaker B:

They want to find love.

Speaker B:

They want to find happiness because they're not getting it.

Speaker B:

Your parents are home arguing every day, bickering, doing drugs in front of your kids, beating each other up.

Speaker B:

Domestic violence.

Speaker B:

Police every day at the house.

Speaker B:

There's no food in the fridge.

Speaker B:

Listen, y' all know how to get up and go get a job, but y' all don't want to.

Speaker B:

People want to depend on this person and depend on all this other stuff, but don't really.

Speaker B:

Like, y' all got two feet, two legs, your hands, whatever.

Speaker B:

Go get a job.

Speaker B:

Show your kids, bro.

Speaker B:

Your kids are affected by what we do.

Speaker A:

Speaking of, how do you like being a mother and being on reality?

Speaker A:

How does your son feel about that?

Speaker B:

My son had a.

Speaker B:

It was rough for him when it.

Speaker B:

When bad.

Speaker B:

When I was on Baddies Ease.

Speaker B:

When I was on Baddies east, like, my son was like, mom, I can't take it.

Speaker B:

They're picking at me at school about this.

Speaker B:

They was bullying him.

Speaker B:

Everything.

Speaker B:

He was getting in fights, everything.

Speaker B:

And, like, I saw his grades going down.

Speaker B:

I'm like, baby, listen, this is what you need to understand.

Speaker B:

People are gonna say this and this and that about whatever they see.

Speaker B:

I need y' all to know that it's entertainment.

Speaker A:

Correct?

Speaker B:

This is something.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I heard.

Speaker A:

This is entertainment.

Speaker B:

This is entertainment.

Speaker B:

If it's not even real life, even if it's not scripted, it's entertainment.

Speaker B:

We're here to make you laugh, cry, think about what's gonna happen next.

Speaker B:

That's what it is.

Speaker B:

That's what it is.

Speaker B:

But in real life, like, people are human.

Speaker B:

Our kids really, like, it means something.

Speaker B:

Like, I need my son to.

Speaker B:

I need to make sure that he go to school and he's okay.

Speaker B:

I don't wanna come home, be out filming for months and have to deal with these crazy bitches.

Speaker B:

And they have to come home and deal with my son because these kids want to say stupid stuff.

Speaker B:

Cause my son is the type.

Speaker B:

He gonna fight.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

He's gonna stand up, he's gonna stand up for his mother.

Speaker B:

His father is deceased.

Speaker B:

He don't have a father.

Speaker B:

So it's like, my mama.

Speaker B:

That's all I got.

Speaker B:

So he don't play about me.

Speaker B:

But I tell him, baby, listen, ignore them.

Speaker B:

Do what you need to do.

Speaker B:

It's whatever.

Speaker A:

Well, he 13 then.

Speaker A:

He's 13.

Speaker A:

She's so young.

Speaker A:

28.

Speaker A:

I know you so much.

Speaker A:

You mature, though, for your age.

Speaker A:

I didn't know you was 28.

Speaker B:

But I wasn't like this not too long ago.

Speaker B:

I think I grew up maybe when I was 21.

Speaker B:

Honestly, I was not mature.

Speaker B:

I was still running the streets at 18, 19.

Speaker A:

That's normal, though.

Speaker B:

Got my mama watching my baby.

Speaker B:

Mom watch my baby.

Speaker B:

I need to go bust some plays and stuff.

Speaker A:

I was doing that in my 30s, honey.

Speaker A:

So you did good, okay?

Speaker A:

You did very well.

Speaker A:

Cause I had to do it in my 30s.

Speaker A:

Cause I took care of a lot, too.

Speaker A:

So don't downplay.

Speaker A:

Cause, see, people that don't have kids don't understand the struggles and what we got to do to make sure our kids is good.

Speaker A:

Like I said, even you being on this reality stuff, the people at his school may not get it, but this is a way to feed your kid.

Speaker A:

This is your legacy that you're trying to put out there.

Speaker A:

Like she said, this is scripted.

Speaker A:

This is interview.

Speaker B:

It's not scripted.

Speaker B:

But it's in.

Speaker B:

No, it's not.

Speaker A:

It's not scripted.

Speaker A:

That's a whole nother topic.

Speaker B:

Some of it can't.

Speaker B:

Some of it is.

Speaker B:

Some of it is not.

Speaker B:

But mostly it's not.

Speaker A:

Is reality.

Speaker B:

It's reality TV.

Speaker B:

100.

Speaker B:

It's real.

Speaker B:

Zeus is 100.

Speaker A:

I was happy you beat that one girl up, though.

Speaker A:

Oh, I ain't gonna talk about that.

Speaker B:

I only want to know.

Speaker B:

I don't care.

Speaker B:

One girl I was loving.

Speaker A:

I was like, girls.

Speaker A:

But no, I shouldn't say that.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

No, I know.

Speaker A:

Like that shot, he was like, no.

Speaker A:

I said, I don't want to talk.

Speaker B:

About that baddie stuff.

Speaker A:

But no, but even just to lighten it up, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Because I. I didn't want you to come and be sad, but I did want you to tell your story.

Speaker A:

Because I feel like this is why I create this, so people can see reality.

Speaker A:

You know, a lot of these podcast sessions, it's not about substance.

Speaker A:

This is substance.

Speaker A:

What you're talking about, like, what you've been through, telling your story.

Speaker A:

You could be my fosters.

Speaker A:

Watch this.

Speaker A:

You see what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And they know smelly from the baddies.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

She came on with Dr. Stanz and told her story.

Speaker A:

Oh, my.

Speaker A:

That's big.

Speaker A:

So for you to even open up, because I don't think I ever seen you open up like this.

Speaker B:

I just don't.

Speaker B:

I'mma be honest.

Speaker B:

I don't want to be known Smiley from the baddies.

Speaker B:

I just want to be known as Smiley.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

I'm just Smiley.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

Straight up, I'm Smiley.

Speaker B:

Smiley got a story and Smiley got a testimony.

Speaker B:

And you have a fan.

Speaker B:

And Smiley has family.

Speaker B:

My fans are my family.

Speaker B:

They not my fans.

Speaker B:

Because I'm going to tell you something.

Speaker B:

I go through my stuff right now.

Speaker B:

Literally, I got a girl in my DM right now.

Speaker B:

I'm right here every day to check up on her.

Speaker B:

She wrote me she got brain cancer, she got a tumor.

Speaker B:

I just check up on them.

Speaker B:

Cause I write them.

Speaker B:

I don't care.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, if I can do something, I will help you and I'll be there for you.

Speaker B:

Like, I don't know.

Speaker B:

I'm just.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I'm just different.

Speaker B:

I'm smiling, you smiley.

Speaker B:

I just wanna put a smile on your face.

Speaker A:

I know you so cute.

Speaker B:

I just see when she first came and you did.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

I can definitely understand why that's your nickname.

Speaker A:

Did you have a nickname, like, growing up?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I can see because it's the smile for me.

Speaker A:

You see, like, you see the smell.

Speaker B:

It's cute.

Speaker A:

You got this negro over here.

Speaker A:

He crying and had to step out with his little Louie and just, you know, with the.

Speaker A:

He had to go clean up because it was emotional.

Speaker B:

Amazing.

Speaker A:

It was emotional.

Speaker A:

You need more tea, Pudding.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm gonna say something.

Speaker B:

When someone says, I made it.

Speaker B:

I haven't made it.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker A:

I tell you that all the time about me because they think I made.

Speaker B:

It and I made it.

Speaker B:

I'm say this.

Speaker B:

I'm not where I want, you know, When I'm make it, when I'm able.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna show you something.

Speaker A:

Let me see.

Speaker A:

I get that all the time, too.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna show you something because you think it's a joke.

Speaker A:

I get that all the time.

Speaker A:

Don't I get that, John?

Speaker A:

All the time you say that about me and I'm like, I ain't where I want to be.

Speaker B:

But we don't.

Speaker A:

She.

Speaker B:

She don't see what we see.

Speaker B:

Correct.

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker A:

She don't see how she's inspiring people, you know, she don't see how other people look at her.

Speaker B:

Correct.

Speaker B:

And when we watching these TV shows.

Speaker A:

And we're seeing her, we see you start at one point, and then we get to see your growth.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but you're living it every day.

Speaker A:

So you don't see the growth that we see.

Speaker B:

But it takes a strong individual to make it as far as right now.

Speaker B:

That's facts.

Speaker A:

You hear them?

Speaker A:

That's real.

Speaker B:

So, look, I'm gonna show you something.

Speaker B:

And this is when I make it.

Speaker B:

This is how I know I'm making it.

Speaker A:

Let me see.

Speaker B:

When this is on a big building in its own compound.

Speaker B:

Oh, you told me that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you can.

Speaker A:

Come on.

Speaker A:

Come look.

Speaker B:

I want to name it Smiley's World.

Speaker A:

Check on the girls, though, too.

Speaker B:

Smiley's World.

Speaker B:

So Smiley's World is gonna be a compound, huh?

Speaker A:

Talk about him, please.

Speaker B:

I want this.

Speaker B:

I got my book coming out.

Speaker B:

I got a children's book coming out.

Speaker B:

But Smiley's World is where I want to have a compound where kids feel safe and loved.

Speaker B:

It's going to be their world.

Speaker B:

Everything is about them.

Speaker B:

It's going to have school.

Speaker B:

They're going to have a room where they can do hair, makeup, sing, dance.

Speaker B:

They can do everything mechanic, whatever they want.

Speaker B:

It's just going to be their world.

Speaker B:

Smiley's World, where I can just put smiles on every kid and help them grow, to become what they want to do.

Speaker B:

It's not what you want them to do.

Speaker B:

It's not what their grandmother wants them to do.

Speaker B:

I want them to do exactly what they want to do.

Speaker A:

Well, you can definitely start with my kids.

Speaker A:

And everybody say, well, they 18.

Speaker A:

They still babies, though.

Speaker B:

They still kids.

Speaker A:

They still babies.

Speaker B:

Their childhood was scary right now, actually, you know, that's the scariest age for them because it's like.

Speaker B:

And I understand that because When I hit 18, you know, they turned around and said, you're an adult now.

Speaker B:

I don't gotta help you.

Speaker B:

So I'm like, what do I do in this world?

Speaker B:

Panic.

Speaker B:

I'm panicking because it's like, what do I do now?

Speaker B:

Same.

Speaker B:

Now they're telling me I gotta get a job.

Speaker B:

I ain't never worked.

Speaker A:

Get your own place.

Speaker B:

I ain't never known.

Speaker B:

Here when they said all that, I rather had did this, this, this, this.

Speaker B:

But I ain't gonna have no job.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna work for nobody.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna do what I want to do.

Speaker B:

I want to make Smiley become this person she's gonna be.

Speaker A:

I respect that.

Speaker A:

I felt the same way.

Speaker B:

I like my whole family.

Speaker B:

My grandmother always said, you're gonna be a lawyer, you're gonna be a doctor.

Speaker B:

Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be that.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna be a lawyer, play judge, whatever, all time.

Speaker B:

But in my heart, that's not what I want to do.

Speaker A:

And what you want to do is smiley swirl.

Speaker B:

I want to do smile.

Speaker B:

I want to open up my own foster care and help kids.

Speaker A:

I can help you with that, actually.

Speaker B:

I want to.

Speaker B:

I want.

Speaker B:

I literally.

Speaker A:

Foster care.

Speaker B:

I literally just made my non profit.

Speaker B:

I just got my ein.

Speaker B:

I got all my business.

Speaker B:

Everything's ready to go right now for you, right now.

Speaker A:

Statement for you.

Speaker B:

I'm doing everything.

Speaker B:

Everything right now is getting done.

Speaker B:

I have my team on it.

Speaker A:

What would you open in Miami?

Speaker B:

Yeah, but I'm gonna open it in Wyoming.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

I'm gonna.

Speaker A:

What's.

Speaker A:

Why Wyoming?

Speaker B:

I'm tell you right now what's in Wyoming.

Speaker B:

When you open up a business in Wyoming, you don't got to pay no taxes.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, okay.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I'm thinking.

Speaker A:

I'm thinking like some kids.

Speaker A:

I knew that part.

Speaker B:

You don't got to pay taxes.

Speaker B:

You don't got to do none of that.

Speaker A:

And even with a nonprofit, you know, you don't neither do.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but.

Speaker B:

But because I have.

Speaker B:

I want to do other things.

Speaker B:

You got to incorporate all that into it, like, you know I'm saying.

Speaker B:

So I want to buy a house.

Speaker B:

That house.

Speaker B:

I'm going to buy it, hold on to it, let it build equity for a couple of years.

Speaker B:

With the equity on that home, I'm going to pull it out and I'm going to open up another business.

Speaker B:

So that house, that my first house was never my house to live.

Speaker B:

That house is so I could put my business, my smiley worlds, as my office and.

Speaker B:

But my second one is going to be like another rental property, everything and keep on like that.

Speaker B:

I want to pull equity into all my home.

Speaker B:

I know you can have a home.

Speaker B:

Sit on one, I think.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

I think each state different.

Speaker B:

Every state is different.

Speaker A:

So you got to look into that.

Speaker A:

California, I think you could have two.

Speaker A:

You know, I don't know if y' all know.

Speaker A:

I think you could have two.

Speaker A:

If I'm mistaken, everybody in here look.

Speaker B:

Like they own a couple homes, especially him in the chair.

Speaker A:

Well, you know, I do have one, but I know that with me, I never pulled the equity out, which is.

Speaker A:

I don't know if that's.

Speaker A:

That's probably good or bad, but.

Speaker B:

How did you feel becoming a young mom.

Speaker A:

Well, I was.

Speaker A:

You know, me personally, I was still hoeing.

Speaker A:

And when I met my baby's father, he's the one that got kind of.

Speaker A:

He didn't get me out the streets.

Speaker A:

Cause I was still in the streets when I met him.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

And then people say, well, was he.

Speaker A:

No, I was still pimping into, you know, my own thing.

Speaker A:

Didn't give him no money.

Speaker A:

But he said one thing.

Speaker A:

He said, there is a million and one hustles.

Speaker A:

Why would you choose that one?

Speaker A:

And that said and resonated with me so cold.

Speaker A:

I was like, this man is right.

Speaker A:

Why would I choose this one?

Speaker A:

Because at once I met him, I was exhausted from hoeing.

Speaker A:

I was tired.

Speaker A:

I already robbed all the Negroes in the Bay.

Speaker A:

I didn't robbed everybody that I can even put my hands next to and took all their houses.

Speaker A:

And I didn't Took everything.

Speaker A:

So I'm hot.

Speaker A:

So that's when I start pimping girls.

Speaker A:

And then I got hot with that.

Speaker A:

And then after that, I got pregnant with my kid.

Speaker A:

And I immediately, when I say immediately enrolled in school.

Speaker A:

Because I come like you.

Speaker A:

I liked you.

Speaker B:

You went into school for nursing.

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker A:

Why are you acting like you reading my life and stuff?

Speaker A:

That was my original.

Speaker A:

I was a CNA for 25 years.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker B:

I know you were.

Speaker B:

I changed my major and you want fair psychology.

Speaker A:

And then I freaking started foster care.

Speaker A:

And I did not know that that was gonna be the road to my life.

Speaker B:

And I'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker A:

I didn't know I was gonna be a foster care parent.

Speaker B:

I hated her.

Speaker B:

Shit, I hated it.

Speaker A:

But let me know, I will say this.

Speaker A:

Cause I got my license at 17 in Job Corps in my first job at nursing at 18.

Speaker A:

I love the old people, though.

Speaker A:

And I used to see how they used to people, the nurses would treat them so mean.

Speaker A:

And I would get into it with the nurses all the time.

Speaker A:

Because he's got this cute little white lady.

Speaker A:

And you just how you mean to this lady.

Speaker A:

They didn't understand the psychology of they yelling at him and stuff.

Speaker A:

She 90 years old and they would still be mean.

Speaker B:

I went.

Speaker B:

I went to.

Speaker A:

I didn't like that.

Speaker B:

I went to a school called Cope.

Speaker A:

Cope in Miami.

Speaker A:

It was a nursing school.

Speaker B:

So in the school they had different programs for us, but everybody in the school was pregnant.

Speaker A:

Really Christian.

Speaker B:

It was a pregnancy.

Speaker B:

It was a pregnant school.

Speaker A:

How in Miami.

Speaker B:

How was that?

Speaker B:

I never even heard of it.

Speaker A:

In California.

Speaker B:

All girls school.

Speaker B:

Maybe you should open something like that.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

That's kinda dope.

Speaker A:

Well, you know, I got pregnant girls.

Speaker B:

So let me tell you something.

Speaker B:

What was in that school?

Speaker B:

It was computer, like where you learn about different computer business.

Speaker B:

They had a nursing.

Speaker B:

They had where you can learn how to take care to like work with.

Speaker B:

What it called like people that work in daycares.

Speaker A:

Not teachers, a but like just.

Speaker A:

Just daycare.

Speaker B:

Like assistants.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Not babysitters, but it was a word for like cn.

Speaker B:

Like some.

Speaker A:

Not cna because I was a cna.

Speaker A:

Certified nursing assistant.

Speaker B:

It was like an assistant to something.

Speaker B:

Not teachers, but I had all these programs in there and then our kids would go to school there.

Speaker A:

That's dope.

Speaker B:

Until we finish school, our kids will be going to school.

Speaker B:

That's dope.

Speaker B:

Did you get some of them girls had four kids in the school in the daycare.

Speaker B:

Free daycare.

Speaker B:

It was crazy.

Speaker B:

Like you go to school, your kids get taken care of.

Speaker A:

No, I believe it.

Speaker A:

I have an 18 year old with three kids in the program.

Speaker A:

And yeah, young, but she a hustler.

Speaker A:

She doing her thing.

Speaker A:

Shout out to you, but she know who she is, but she doing her thing.

Speaker A:

Little cute Hispanic doing her thing.

Speaker A:

You hear me?

Speaker B:

Shout out to you.

Speaker A:

She doing her thing.

Speaker B:

Don't give up.

Speaker B:

It's gonna get hard, but don't give up.

Speaker B:

Niece.

Speaker A:

Yeah, she got three babies and I think that's blessing number one.

Speaker B:

Blessing number two.

Speaker B:

Blessing number three.

Speaker A:

Six months, one and two.

Speaker B:

So it just got three beautiful blessings.

Speaker A:

It's potential people to raise multiple kids.

Speaker B:

But it was a lot to be in a school with all these girls pregnant.

Speaker B:

Different hormones.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

We all fighting, we fight in pregnancy.

Speaker B:

Like it was like.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Physical fight.

Speaker B:

Yeah, like tables game.

Speaker A:

What I know them poor teachers was like security.

Speaker A:

Dang though.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

All girls.

Speaker A:

I mean, what you expect though?

Speaker A:

I mean, yeah, but dang pregnant.

Speaker B:

It was a lot.

Speaker B:

It was a lot.

Speaker A:

It was a lot.

Speaker A:

But you know what?

Speaker A:

You made it through it, sister.

Speaker A:

You made it.

Speaker A:

Niece, I like niece.

Speaker B:

Niece.

Speaker B:

My auntie.

Speaker A:

Auntie T. I like it.

Speaker A:

Nobody ever called me Titi.

Speaker A:

Actually, I.

Speaker A:

You know what?

Speaker A:

I don't have no nieces or nephews.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you do.

Speaker B:

I'm right here.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

No, for real though.

Speaker B:

Let me ask you.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I like it, I think.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So let me ask you, like just being a young, a young parent, what was the first thing that.

Speaker B:

Who did you go to when you first found out you were pregnant?

Speaker A:

That's a good God.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna say God because I was trying to figure out what to do.

Speaker A:

Because I didn't know.

Speaker B:

Who did you tell?

Speaker A:

My mom.

Speaker B:

And she told you to have an abortion?

Speaker A:

No, she told me to keep it.

Speaker B:

She did.

Speaker A:

She told me to keep it.

Speaker B:

Madam tastes.

Speaker B:

I'll never forget the day I got pregnant and I found out I was pregnant.

Speaker B:

I was in the house.

Speaker B:

I literally lived two blocks away from Miami Children's Hospital.

Speaker B:

It was a children's hospital.

Speaker B:

And I was.

Speaker B:

Something was wrong with me.

Speaker B:

I went to the toilet.

Speaker B:

I was just throwing up everywhere.

Speaker B:

I was sick.

Speaker B:

I was dying.

Speaker B:

I was like, I can't take it.

Speaker B:

My mom was at work.

Speaker B:

Da, da.

Speaker B:

So I went.

Speaker B:

I would never forget the nurse's name.

Speaker B:

I could read her name tag.

Speaker B:

Her name was Amber.

Speaker B:

I could still remember it.

Speaker B:

It's so crazy.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

That Pisces.

Speaker B:

So I went in.

Speaker B:

I signed myself.

Speaker B:

They kept asking where my parent was.

Speaker B:

I said, my parent is on the way.

Speaker B:

I kept just lying.

Speaker B:

Say they dropped me off and they coming right back.

Speaker B:

So I signed myself in and I.

Speaker A:

How many months was you.

Speaker A:

You just found out?

Speaker B:

I just found out.

Speaker B:

This is the first time I found out.

Speaker B:

And they ended up doing all these things.

Speaker B:

Check my pressure.

Speaker B:

I'm learning.

Speaker B:

I'm still throwing up.

Speaker B:

I'm sick.

Speaker B:

I'm throwing up everywhere.

Speaker B:

On the floor, everything.

Speaker B:

They come in and like, congratulations.

Speaker B:

I said, what happened?

Speaker B:

They said, you're pregnant.

Speaker B:

I said, what?

Speaker B:

I said, please don't call my family.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

I didn't know what to do.

Speaker B:

I didn't know what to think.

Speaker B:

So because I'm still a minor, they gotta call my parents.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

They gotta call the contact information on file.

Speaker B:

They fucking call my mama.

Speaker A:

I know you went to.

Speaker B:

I would never forget.

Speaker B:

I had a sidekick phone.

Speaker A:

The flipper.

Speaker B:

The flip phone.

Speaker B:

My phone was still open with a message.

Speaker B:

I forgot who I was texting.

Speaker B:

I was saying something, but I could still remember how.

Speaker B:

Like, I had my phone.

Speaker B:

Like, I had my phone in my hand.

Speaker B:

I'm sitting on the corner of the other thing.

Speaker B:

I said, like, I just remember.

Speaker B:

It is crazy.

Speaker B:

I still remember this how it is.

Speaker B:

It's weird because I lived this.

Speaker B:

Like, this was something really traumatic for me.

Speaker B:

Like, this is traumatic.

Speaker A:

Are you so crazy?

Speaker B:

This is bad.

Speaker B:

This was bad.

Speaker A:

This.

Speaker B:

This was the.

Speaker B:

This is where everything actually started from.

Speaker B:

I'm like, please don't call my mom.

Speaker B:

Out of nowhere, my phone's going off the hood.

Speaker B:

My mom blowing me up.

Speaker B:

What the cussing me out.

Speaker B:

You're out there.

Speaker B:

Since when?

Speaker B:

Who's the father?

Speaker B:

Everything.

Speaker B:

A whole nine yard.

Speaker B:

So now I'M starting to cry now.

Speaker B:

I'm freaking out.

Speaker B:

I don't know what to do.

Speaker B:

I'm like, I'm looking at me, I ain't going to lie.

Speaker B:

Miss my belly.

Speaker B:

I know I miss my belly.

Speaker B:

I don't know, I kind of really miss it.

Speaker B:

I see pregnant people, I be like, aw, so cute.

Speaker B:

I know you even want to go.

Speaker A:

Up and touch them.

Speaker B:

I like that's contagious.

Speaker B:

But damn.

Speaker A:

Oh, I know you were scared though.

Speaker A:

That moment when they say they.

Speaker B:

I didn't have no support at that moment.

Speaker B:

I'm thinking that my mom can have an understanding.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

My mom got in the car, grabbed my shoulder.

Speaker B:

You're going to have a fucking abortion.

Speaker B:

I'm taking you right now.

Speaker B:

She calling people, they trying to.

Speaker B:

They're closed.

Speaker B:

It's late.

Speaker B:

It's already like six o'.

Speaker A:

Clock.

Speaker B:

Everything closed right now.

Speaker B:

I went home the whole time I'm getting nauseous, I'm getting sick.

Speaker B:

I'm trying to figure out the fuck am I doing?

Speaker B:

Like, please help me.

Speaker B:

I'm asking like, is this the right move?

Speaker B:

Like, what am I doing?

Speaker B:

So I said to myself, I'm going to my grandma house.

Speaker B:

I'm packing my shit.

Speaker B:

I'm getting the fuck out this house.

Speaker B:

This late for.

Speaker B:

Drive me insane.

Speaker B:

So I went to my grandma house.

Speaker B:

My grandma had to this day, she still got this damn table.

Speaker B:

I don't know why.

Speaker B:

And it still looked new.

Speaker B:

It still got the plastics on it.

Speaker B:

Like rip the plastic off the table.

Speaker A:

That was granny's stuff for real.

Speaker B:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker B:

She don't want to take.

Speaker A:

She ain't.

Speaker B:

She's not gonna take it off.

Speaker B:

She still got it.

Speaker B:

She's had it since I was a kid.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

I remember there's a painting, a blue painting of a little house with a ball on the back of her.

Speaker B:

I could remember the little tree.

Speaker B:

And then we had like.

Speaker B:

She had a fucking old ass TV like one of them square box TVs.

Speaker B:

Still.

Speaker B:

It was still.

Speaker B:

It was in the kitchen on the little stand.

Speaker B:

Remember them flat TV stands that you can move out?

Speaker A:

Yes, yes.

Speaker B:

It was right there on a white stand.

Speaker B:

I can remember she had a blue shirt on.

Speaker B:

She.

Speaker B:

I said, she's like, what do you want to do?

Speaker B:

She said, look, I can't make a decision for you, but I can only ask you what you want to do.

Speaker B:

She says, I'm not your mother.

Speaker B:

I'm not going to say to abort it, but this is what comes with having a child.

Speaker B:

She broke it down to me, broke Everything down.

Speaker B:

Do you want to keep it or do you not?

Speaker B:

I literally sat there for like five minutes trying to think.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker B:

And I said, I want to keep my baby.

Speaker B:

She said, are you sure?

Speaker B:

I said, is this a right or wrong answer?

Speaker B:

She said, there's not.

Speaker B:

Just, what do you want?

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker A:

Best decision you ever made, huh?

Speaker B:

I said, I want to keep my baby.

Speaker B:

My baby.

Speaker B:

I'm going to love him.

Speaker B:

I'm going to show them how to love a baby for real.

Speaker B:

I might not be the best mom then, but I know one day I'mma grow up to really understand everything in life.

Speaker B:

But I'm young right now.

Speaker B:

I'm scared as fuck.

Speaker B:

Let me tell you something.

Speaker B:

I freaked the fuck out the first time I felt him kick.

Speaker B:

Oh, shit, Me too.

Speaker B:

I said, me too.

Speaker B:

I put it in my ribs.

Speaker B:

I was so scared.

Speaker B:

I was like.

Speaker B:

I'm like, oh, my God.

Speaker B:

I'm like, this is really happening.

Speaker B:

And when I. I heard the heartbeat, it's surreal.

Speaker B:

When I saw that, everything was so real.

Speaker B:

It was the most beautiful feeling for me.

Speaker B:

I was scared as fuck.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

Then it's like, the daddy.

Speaker B:

The daddy was like, you know, his father was in the foster care system.

Speaker B:

He got about four 14 siblings.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I don't want to touch that topic.

Speaker B:

Cause then his family gonna reach out.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

But it was a lot.

Speaker A:

It was a lot.

Speaker B:

It was a lot.

Speaker B:

So my baby father is so crazy because I met my baby father back in, like, elementary one time.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

We was in class, everything.

Speaker B:

And then he ended up moving.

Speaker B:

I don't know why he left the school.

Speaker B:

I never saw him again.

Speaker B:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

Then I went to middle school and he was there and he was in the school.

Speaker B:

Aw.

Speaker B:

And right then I just knew, like, I really like this man.

Speaker B:

He looked good.

Speaker B:

He fine as hell.

Speaker B:

He popular.

Speaker B:

He a little older than me, but, you know, I think he failed.

Speaker B:

So he was a little older and he.

Speaker B:

I would never forget.

Speaker B:

It was in a math class.

Speaker B:

He wrote me my first letter.

Speaker B:

He showed me how he did his origami letter box that I still do to this day.

Speaker A:

Wait, you talking about that.

Speaker B:

This thing?

Speaker B:

No, he made a box.

Speaker B:

Like a box letter.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So it says push open, like, everything.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker B:

Not this one.

Speaker A:

What's that one cootie thing?

Speaker B:

No, it's.

Speaker B:

You give me a paper right now, I'll show you how to make the little box.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Yeah, because I want to know.

Speaker B:

Because I'm.

Speaker A:

You know what I'M talking about, right?

Speaker B:

We need a piece of paper.

Speaker A:

I need to see it.

Speaker B:

I'm going to show her how to make the.

Speaker A:

For a paper.

Speaker B:

He used to drop it right by my foot and.

Speaker B:

Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker A:

I know you're talking about.

Speaker A:

I still want you to make it.

Speaker A:

I know what you're talking about now.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

I'm thinking this the cootie one, but I know which one you're talking about.

Speaker A:

I know what you're talking.

Speaker A:

And it was the other airplane we used to make.

Speaker A:

It was them three, but square box.

Speaker A:

I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker B:

And that.

Speaker B:

And it was so crazy because I used to put my notes in my bag and my family got ahold of that.

Speaker B:

Oh, my mama.

Speaker B:

I'll never forget to the day.

Speaker B:

My mama know I always talk about it.

Speaker B:

She whooped my ass so bad when she read them letters and things he wanted to do to me.

Speaker B:

That hanger Mark, I will never forget.

Speaker B:

It was right here in the shower.

Speaker B:

I tasted the shit out that plastic.

Speaker A:

Let me say something.

Speaker A:

Cause see, I think our parents don't be knowing we be a little bit advanced more than what they be knowing.

Speaker A:

Cause when you get a relationship.

Speaker B:

But I don't understand.

Speaker B:

Cause they was young too, but they don't.

Speaker A:

That's why.

Speaker A:

So sometimes you gotta think they didn't want you to make the same mistake they did.

Speaker A:

Maybe that's why your mom was so angry.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Let me ask you this.

Speaker A:

Cause your son, 13, if he came home and said, mom, I got a girl pregnant, how would you feel?

Speaker B:

I will feel like you made a mistake.

Speaker B:

I'm disappointed and I really need you to think about what's about to happen.

Speaker A:

But you would still support him?

Speaker B:

Yes, I will be there.

Speaker A:

We got to.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna support him.

Speaker A:

We got to give her the paper.

Speaker A:

The new guest is here telling that.

Speaker A:

I'm sure they don't mind.

Speaker A:

They might wanna meet you.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Those are the two girls that I wanted to interview from their other podcasters from the bay.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You're walking in between the camera.

Speaker A:

We're still filming.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we're still filming.

Speaker B:

It's still live.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so just tell them we can.

Speaker A:

He could edit that part out.

Speaker B:

But anyway, I don't care.

Speaker A:

Me neither.

Speaker B:

It's organic.

Speaker B:

So with that being said, he used to write me my little notes and stuff like that.

Speaker B:

And he always told me like, my family right now is not always my family.

Speaker A:

Me.

Speaker B:

So from that understanding me growing up, he was in foster care.

Speaker B:

And he would never was in the same home.

Speaker A:

So he was moving house to house.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker B:

Now you get it.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker B:

And I never understood until I got older.

Speaker B:

So from that, he ended up leaving the school again.

Speaker B:

And we finally, years later, I'm probably like, 13 now.

Speaker B:

13, 14.

Speaker B:

We end up in the same opportunity.

Speaker B:

School girl.

Speaker A:

What's the odds?

Speaker B:

What's the odds?

Speaker A:

And that's from.

Speaker A:

He was definitely from Miami, too.

Speaker B:

It is.

Speaker A:

And I'm glad that you said, though, too.

Speaker A:

That's just for any young parents out here.

Speaker A:

Like, we all make mistakes.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And, like, even with my daughter, she came home and I felt so proud and honored because she.

Speaker A:

I feel like I did good as a parent because she was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I'm keeping this for sure.

Speaker B:

Those were my notes.

Speaker B:

Those used to get dropped right by my foot.

Speaker A:

I like it.

Speaker B:

I miss him so much.

Speaker B:

He was.

Speaker B:

He used to sing like he had a voice.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

He used to sing.

Speaker B:

And I'll never forget.

Speaker A:

He stared at you.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And it was just like.

Speaker B:

He was really like my first boyfriend.

Speaker B:

So my family, like, it got to a point, like, okay, I started running away to see him.

Speaker A:

Now it makes sense.

Speaker B:

I used to run away to go see him.

Speaker B:

So now I was like, all right, we gonna pick him up and just bring him to the house.

Speaker A:

Okay, That's a good thing.

Speaker A:

That's what I was gonna say.

Speaker A:

So your mom did support it?

Speaker A:

My grandma.

Speaker A:

Grandma.

Speaker B:

Grandma used to give it.

Speaker B:

My mama and my dad used to hate it.

Speaker A:

See, I'm opposite.

Speaker A:

My mom would be the cool one, but my granny didn't play.

Speaker A:

But I appreciate it.

Speaker B:

I remember supporting on him, and he used to sing a song.

Speaker B:

You remember Lil Corey?

Speaker A:

No, my.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

My first time.

Speaker A:

My first.

Speaker A:

I don't know that one.

Speaker A:

What's the skip at?

Speaker A:

What is it?

Speaker B:

Play it.

Speaker A:

Find it and play it.

Speaker B:

And I love that song.

Speaker B:

And he used to sing the one for Marcus Houston.

Speaker A:

Which one?

Speaker B:

Now?

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

Marcus's first time.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

In the house, in the couch, in your parents.

Speaker B:

You remember?

Speaker B:

Oh, God.

Speaker B:

My very first son.

Speaker B:

And that's so cute.

Speaker B:

I miss him.

Speaker A:

I bet.

Speaker A:

When did he pass, if you don't mind me asking?

Speaker B:

Like, my son was like, four.

Speaker B:

Dang.

Speaker B:

And it's like.

Speaker A:

So he was 19.

Speaker B:

I was young.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So it was like.

Speaker B:

Now it's like, bug, how can I say?

Speaker B:

I don't know what he would be saying right now.

Speaker A:

He would be proud of you.

Speaker B:

I know, but it's like, do you.

Speaker A:

Think you'll be where you is now if he was here?

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

I would be stuck wherever he at.

Speaker B:

I would have been held back because I love him so much.

Speaker A:

Aw.

Speaker A:

Oh, man.

Speaker B:

He's like, damn.

Speaker B:

Like, that's why sometimes we gotta cherish our people, man.

Speaker B:

Our family, our loved ones, our parents, because we don't know when they're gonna go.

Speaker A:

You dealt with a loss at a very young age, and it was somebody close to you.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

That's a lot of.

Speaker B:

I love that, man.

Speaker A:

You know, a lot of trouble.

Speaker A:

I was like, and even for your son, too.

Speaker A:

I know it's hard now.

Speaker A:

How is dating for you now with son?

Speaker A:

Like, how is that.

Speaker A:

See, I got a daughter, like, dating.

Speaker A:

Like, do he be tripping?

Speaker A:

He be tripping.

Speaker B:

My son be tripping?

Speaker A:

Yeah, they be tripping.

Speaker B:

They be tripping.

Speaker A:

They be tripping, huh?

Speaker B:

Having a kid and trying to talk to men.

Speaker A:

It's a.

Speaker B:

They tripping.

Speaker A:

No, not a kid, a son.

Speaker A:

Cause my daughter be like, mom, you should go talk to him.

Speaker B:

It's the boys.

Speaker B:

Listen, I'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker B:

My son like my best friend.

Speaker B:

He like my broke best friend.

Speaker A:

Mm.

Speaker A:

Mm.

Speaker A:

Side,.

Speaker B:

Huh?

Speaker A:

Best friend grew with you.

Speaker A:

Yeah, cuz you had him young.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's my dog.

Speaker A:

You had him young.

Speaker B:

He made a song.

Speaker B:

Can I want to hear it?

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Girl, I be want to.

Speaker B:

That's how I know my.

Speaker B:

I don't know if he doing stuff out there yet, but.

Speaker A:

What you mean sexy stuff?

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

Ask him.

Speaker A:

I talked to my daughter about sex at 6.

Speaker A:

Did you talk to sex to your kids?

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

How old is your babies?

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

This is my son right here.

Speaker B:

My son really take music seriously.

Speaker B:

My son is talented.

Speaker A:

That's him.

Speaker B:

Let me see.

Speaker B:

You want to see my baby?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

He mixed, huh?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

My son Haitian.

Speaker A:

Oh, you got a Haitian.

Speaker A:

Oh, Haitians.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Let me show you my brush.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I did.

Speaker B:

And what time?

Speaker A:

I know, I know.

Speaker B:

Tell them it's 7:20.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker B:

Tell them don't brush us.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

They gonna wash this.

Speaker A:

She don't want to be that.

Speaker A:

She wants to be smiley.

Speaker A:

I love Smiley's world.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker A:

We gonna make that happen.

Speaker A:

We gonna make smiley worlds.

Speaker B:

Ain't it lit?

Speaker A:

We're gonna.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we're gonna make that happen.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we're gonna make that happen.

Speaker B:

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker B:

Look at my baby.

Speaker B:

This is my son.

Speaker B:

Look, auntie, I'll share you.

Speaker A:

I'll show you what's Smiling.

Speaker B:

This is my son right here.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God, he's so cute.

Speaker B:

Oh, he.

Speaker B:

That's his song.

Speaker B:

That's his vibing.

Speaker A:

I love that.

Speaker B:

Look, this is me, my grandma, him.

Speaker A:

Let me see.

Speaker A:

Found him on social media.

Speaker A:

Like, tried to talk to him, and.

Speaker B:

Goddamn, I know I don't play, man.

Speaker B:

I be like, do they.

Speaker A:

Do they be after him on social media?

Speaker B:

Be after him on socials?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That's a difficult subject for especially the little girls.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, you got problems.

Speaker A:

He hecka cute.

Speaker A:

So you know how you wanted to come out here and talk to some of the students at the.

Speaker A:

Have you went to his school?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm always at his school.

Speaker B:

Always at his school?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I moved him from that school.

Speaker A:

Yeah, he's.

Speaker B:

Girl, he is.

Speaker B:

He's just.

Speaker A:

He hecka cute, though.

Speaker B:

So my baby be practicing.

Speaker B:

He.

Speaker B:

His cousins are done play for you, so he be out there, Girl.

Speaker B:

Yes, my baby is.

Speaker A:

Wait, is that bas.

Speaker A:

What is that?

Speaker B:

This the owner of the, um.

Speaker B:

Mario.

Speaker B:

What's, um, University of Miami got you.

Speaker A:

Is that football or basketball?

Speaker B:

Girl, when I tell you I love.

Speaker A:

My son, girl, I know you do.

Speaker B:

I'll be the big time by May.

Speaker A:

He says, you know, we running past our time.

Speaker A:

Look, I could have smiley here all day.

Speaker A:

I really could.

Speaker B:

Y' all want me to leave?

Speaker B:

No, mama, leave.

Speaker A:

I don't want to leave.

Speaker B:

They don't want us to leave.

Speaker A:

Okay, she can sit here.

Speaker A:

I like how you can sit.

Speaker B:

I love to be here with you.

Speaker B:

I feel comfortable, you family.

Speaker B:

I like it, but I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

Look, I know you got other people here, so I definitely gotta, you know, be consider.

Speaker A:

Can you come back, though?

Speaker B:

I'm always going to come back here.

Speaker B:

You're my family.

Speaker B:

But look, you promise I got to come back from one of them Thanksgivings?

Speaker B:

I know you throw that.

Speaker B:

Matter of fact, let's do a game.

Speaker B:

Let's play a quick game before we go.

Speaker B:

You go.

Speaker B:

You going to tell me what's your favorite food?

Speaker B:

I'm going tell you my favorite food, and then you ask me a question just to get to know each other real quick.

Speaker A:

I'm a chef, right?

Speaker A:

Oh, no, for real.

Speaker A:

I'm a gourmet.

Speaker B:

All right, let's go.

Speaker B:

What's your favorite food?

Speaker A:

I love salmon and oxtail.

Speaker B:

Oh, I love salmon.

Speaker A:

Salmon is one of my favorites.

Speaker B:

I love salmon because it's healthy.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

And I'm trying to do.

Speaker B:

You gotta tell me, what's your favorite food?

Speaker B:

One.

Speaker A:

One.

Speaker B:

Only one.

Speaker A:

Oh, easy lamb.

Speaker A:

I'm tripping.

Speaker A:

Lamb Chops, girl.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Lamb chops.

Speaker A:

Lamb chops.

Speaker B:

I like sushi.

Speaker A:

Oh, I love sushi.

Speaker B:

So go say, ask me a question.

Speaker B:

We gotta do 10 questions and get to know each other real quick.

Speaker A:

Sushi.

Speaker B:

Okay,.

Speaker A:

Let me see.

Speaker A:

What did you want to be when you want to grow up?

Speaker B:

A veterinarian.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Because I always felt like I wanted to save every animal.

Speaker B:

Oh, I used to, bro.

Speaker B:

I used to come to my house.

Speaker B:

I used to come home with different animals.

Speaker B:

If it was in ducks, boxes.

Speaker B:

My grandma used turtles, everything fish.

Speaker A:

Me, too.

Speaker B:

Me.

Speaker A:

Listen, I'm scared of them.

Speaker B:

I done brought hermit crabs home.

Speaker B:

I done brought dogs, stray dogs.

Speaker A:

Me, too.

Speaker A:

Me, too.

Speaker B:

Cats.

Speaker B:

Oh, it was the worst one when I brought a cat.

Speaker B:

The cat ain't never leave.

Speaker B:

She was there for 10 years.

Speaker B:

That's how I did.

Speaker B:

Until the hurricane came.

Speaker B:

She ain't never come back.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Mimi.

Speaker B:

I miss you, Mimi.

Speaker A:

Scared of Miami, about them hurricanes.

Speaker A:

So that's a whole nother topic.

Speaker B:

Okay, third, let me see.

Speaker B:

Oh, wait.

Speaker B:

What did you want to be a doctor.

Speaker B:

Oh, now you carrying your name in front of your.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I didn't know I would be one, but, yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker A:

I thought I was gonna be a nurse, but I wanted to be a doctor.

Speaker B:

I know you didn't.

Speaker B:

You don't want to do that.

Speaker B:

I know you don't want to say.

Speaker A:

No, you right.

Speaker A:

I did not want to.

Speaker A:

I didn't want to write back, but.

Speaker A:

Next one.

Speaker B:

Let me see.

Speaker B:

All right, My next question.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you think?

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker A:

My brain's pride.

Speaker A:

Let me think.

Speaker A:

Why you do that?

Speaker A:

I got one.

Speaker B:

You have a good one.

Speaker A:

Okay, this is.

Speaker A:

Well, this is a good one.

Speaker B:

If you can bring back one deceased rapper or artist or person, who would it be and why?

Speaker A:

Tupac.

Speaker A:

All day in the busy one because he was fine as wine.

Speaker A:

Gorgeous.

Speaker A:

That's just so.

Speaker B:

They're going to be, too.

Speaker B:

Auntie, I can't protect you out here.

Speaker B:

Fine.

Speaker B:

You know that.

Speaker B:

I'm playing.

Speaker A:

Kelly, that man was just gorgeous to me.

Speaker A:

And I know.

Speaker A:

They say he messed with Faith.

Speaker A:

They say I love Faith.

Speaker B:

Would you let him keep his little ring in his nose?

Speaker A:

We'll have to negotiate.

Speaker A:

If he wears his on the right, I can wear mine on the left.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker B:

Yeah, okay, cool.

Speaker A:

That was a little extra, but it was.

Speaker A:

He just.

Speaker A:

It was the ugh in him.

Speaker A:

It was the ugh.

Speaker A:

You know, he was a.

Speaker B:

Kill us.

Speaker A:

I'm out.

Speaker A:

He was just fine.

Speaker A:

Who was yours?

Speaker B:

Who would yours be for me?

Speaker B:

Who I would bring back?

Speaker B:

I Think I'll bring back.

Speaker B:

I'll bring back Elvis.

Speaker A:

Elvis.

Speaker B:

I would bring back Elvis.

Speaker A:

Why?

Speaker B:

Because when I was young, when it was a good times, Elvis would be playing on my screen like that.

Speaker B:

It was.

Speaker B:

It was just moments where my mom and my grandma, all of them, I had good times.

Speaker B:

And Elvis used to be playing.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I don't.

Speaker A:

I think mine was like, Aretha Franklin.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker A:

That was my time.

Speaker A:

Aretha Franklin.

Speaker A:

Okay, let me ask you one more real quick.

Speaker A:

Let me see if you can have any superpower.

Speaker A:

What would it be?

Speaker B:

I.

Speaker B:

It would be healing.

Speaker A:

That's not a superpower.

Speaker B:

It is, because if I had the power to heal people from their pain.

Speaker A:

Okay, I guess that is a superpower.

Speaker A:

Mine would be to fly.

Speaker B:

Oh, you want that type of superpower?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

That's just like fly, walk on water.

Speaker A:

But healing is one too, though.

Speaker A:

That's a good one.

Speaker A:

I never even thought of that, actually.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Because if I can touch you right now, you're crying, you're sad.

Speaker B:

You can heal me.

Speaker B:

I can heal you and make you happy again.

Speaker A:

I actually really like that somebody asked me that.

Speaker B:

I'll make you smile.

Speaker A:

I never.

Speaker A:

My daughter, I think hers was to be invisible.

Speaker A:

Ain't that something?

Speaker B:

She gonna go rob the bank.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

See, that's a good one.

Speaker B:

She's trying to get pregnant twice.

Speaker B:

She's trying to get pregnant twice.

Speaker B:

I don't know about that one.

Speaker A:

Okay, what's your next one?

Speaker A:

That helped me think.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Oh, I got one.

Speaker B:

If you can make a song today with your favorite artist, who would it be?

Speaker B:

And what would be the name of your song?

Speaker A:

You gonna kill me, Nelly?

Speaker B:

None.

Speaker A:

Do it.

Speaker B:

I won't.

Speaker B:

Eh.

Speaker B:

I go look again.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker A:

I. I know it sounds crazy, and I know this is off subject, and I know everybody beats up Natalie, but, like, they be bashing me sometimes for talking about Natalie.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker A:

To me, me being a CEO, me having multiple companies, me helping people in the community.

Speaker A:

I commend her for that.

Speaker A:

Who gives a damn about it being fighting?

Speaker A:

Who cares?

Speaker A:

She's still giving y' all opportunities.

Speaker B:

I don't care what you say.

Speaker B:

She's an amazing person, and she's an amazing mom.

Speaker A:

It's entertainment.

Speaker A:

And at the end of the day, the world is getting that misgiving conscrewed.

Speaker A:

And that's why I actually just hugged.

Speaker B:

Her the other day.

Speaker A:

But I literally.

Speaker A:

I really admire that girl because to me, she's giving people opportunities.

Speaker A:

It don't matter.

Speaker A:

She's giving it.

Speaker A:

It don't matter.

Speaker A:

We.

Speaker A:

We.

Speaker A:

Let's look outside of that.

Speaker A:

She's still changing lives.

Speaker B:

She need.

Speaker B:

People need to look at her on TV and off tv.

Speaker B:

And that's off tv.

Speaker B:

She's a amazing mom, period.

Speaker B:

She's a great human being, period.

Speaker B:

I went through a tough time right now, not too long ago, and I could say that Natalie was.

Speaker B:

Was actually one of the people.

Speaker B:

See what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

That was there for me.

Speaker A:

That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker B:

I feel like when I was so down right now, I owe her for the rest, like forever.

Speaker B:

Because it's that one moment that I really needed somebody and she was there.

Speaker A:

See, that's.

Speaker A:

The world needs to hear that because, like, they bashing that girl right now.

Speaker A:

And I love her to death.

Speaker A:

I'm making mad.

Speaker B:

Natalie has her personality.

Speaker B:

Everybody, everybody got their personality.

Speaker B:

I have my ways.

Speaker B:

But when you really sit down and you really get to know this lady, this mother, she's not what you think.

Speaker B:

People might think she's a piece of shit.

Speaker B:

She's fake.

Speaker B:

Cause she does.

Speaker B:

And she does all that.

Speaker B:

Nah, man, that lady really just.

Speaker B:

That's just tv, man.

Speaker B:

That lady really care.

Speaker A:

I know she do.

Speaker A:

I know she do.

Speaker B:

And I love how she loves her.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

I love the way she loves her daughter.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

Like, that's what I friend somebody, and I love somebody more for how they treat their kid besides anything.

Speaker B:

And she really goes beyond for her family, especially her daddy, Mr. Nunn, man.

Speaker B:

She love her people, man.

Speaker B:

And I respect her for that.

Speaker B:

And I'm thankful for the platform that she's giving me.

Speaker B:

I'm thankful for everything that all these doors she's done open, plugged me in with certain people, show me the love that she do.

Speaker B:

Even though we had our issues back then, whatever I did, I felt like it was entertaining, Came it was whatever, but I knew I carried it on.

Speaker B:

I. I did a little extra, which I was wrong and I take full accountability for.

Speaker B:

But right now it was.

Speaker B:

I'm thank.

Speaker B:

I'm thankful.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

Thank you, Natalie.

Speaker A:

That's for her.

Speaker A:

Like facts.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

And I love you and I appreciate everything you do for me and for everybody around everybody, that everything you do for the network, for all the girls on cast, you know, even though they don't like it or whatever, I understand.

Speaker B:

But at the end of the day, she's still human and business is still business, and business is business.

Speaker A:

We gotta understand that.

Speaker A:

But anyway, we're gonna wrap it up because Percy Gonna kill.

Speaker B:

Wait, sis, you ain't answering my last.

Speaker B:

You.

Speaker B:

Oh, you did answer.

Speaker B:

You said Natalie, and you gave me the reason.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

Well, I would do Celine Dion, okay?

Speaker B:

Because Titanic, she got a song with.

Speaker B:

She got a song called Immort.

Speaker B:

Immortality.

Speaker A:

I never heard that one.

Speaker B:

Yeah, she got a song and my.

Speaker B:

I'll never forget.

Speaker B:

I was in the backseat of the car with my parents, and they was arguing about the most stupid stuff, money and all this.

Speaker B:

And I just played the radio, and that's the song that came on.

Speaker B:

And it just takes me back to this wonderful.

Speaker B:

Everybody started vibing in the car.

Speaker B:

Everybody had a good time.

Speaker B:

So it's a song that take you back to a good time as well.

Speaker A:

So kind of like Elvis.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I respect that.

Speaker B:

A lot of.

Speaker B:

I always like to go back to a good moment.

Speaker A:

I was always gonna say, well, you had a trauma, you know, Trauma, trauma.

Speaker A:

That's just.

Speaker A:

That's normal.

Speaker B:

But look, before I go, before anything, I want to tell everybody, every foster child, every.

Speaker B:

Every child that's in a group home, anybody who's 15, pregnant or younger having a baby.

Speaker B:

I love you guys.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

If you guys really need somebody to talk to, either you can reach out to auntie right here.

Speaker B:

You can reach out to me, write me letters to my P.O.

Speaker B:

Box.

Speaker B:

I love you guys so much.

Speaker B:

I want to be there for you guys.

Speaker B:

I can't be at a thousand places, but I know I can write back a letter to you guys.

Speaker B:

And if you ever feeling alone or you want to hurt yourself or something, talk to somebody.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Everybody has gone.

Speaker B:

Everybody in this room has felt like that sometimes, someday, you know?

Speaker B:

And it's okay to feel like that, but it's good to talk to somebody so you know that someone wants to be there and support you and love you and don't be scared if something is going on in your life that you know that's wrong, speak up.

Speaker B:

Talk to your parents.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

It's okay.

Speaker B:

It's okay, because I should have did that.

Speaker B:

I feel like if I would have did that, then things would have been a little different for me and my upbringing.

Speaker B:

But I do love you guys, and you have a great mentor here.

Speaker B:

Make sure you guys reach out to her.

Speaker B:

She loves you guys.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And I love you, too.

Speaker A:

Can you look under your seat, please?

Speaker B:

Under my seat?

Speaker B:

Hold on.

Speaker B:

Make my fart.

Speaker A:

I want to get.

Speaker A:

I want to gift you.

Speaker A:

See, she didn't know about it.

Speaker A:

I wanted to Gift you look at.

Speaker A:

It's the face for me.

Speaker A:

So cute.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

And my book, of course.

Speaker B:

Book, Yep.

Speaker A:

And my book.

Speaker A:

And I want to get s. You want to get to Mariah.

Speaker A:

Whenever you do see her, I know she probably be far out, but her.

Speaker B:

Book, she going that with that nasty ass pedophile.

Speaker A:

Wait, the book or the.

Speaker B:

A little shook, but I still had to get my bag and pay these damn bills.

Speaker A:

Oh, soon as you.

Speaker B:

Oh, soon as you open.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

That's my daughter.

Speaker A:

That's my daughter.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

She looks just like you.

Speaker B:

I thought this was you.

Speaker B:

That's my.

Speaker A:

Wait, is it.

Speaker A:

Let me see.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's all right, girl.

Speaker A:

I get confused.

Speaker A:

I'm in the beginning.

Speaker B:

I'm in the Shout out to my niece.

Speaker A:

I'm in the beginning.

Speaker B:

Let me tell you something.

Speaker B:

This is beautiful, baby.

Speaker A:

Daddy.

Speaker B:

The real struggle.

Speaker B:

Look, I don't even got to say too much.

Speaker A:

I need you to read it, too.

Speaker B:

Where is this on right now?

Speaker B:

Amazon.

Speaker B:

It's on Amazon right now?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

From HO to CEO.

Speaker B:

Listen, if you're going through a rough time and you living life grown, read it.

Speaker B:

Just read it.

Speaker B:

Just.

Speaker B:

Just open one page.

Speaker B:

Open one page.

Speaker B:

Read the first chapter, and if you like it, read the next one.

Speaker B:

But let me tell you something.

Speaker B:

It's okay.

Speaker B:

Read this, baby.

Speaker B:

Trust me.

Speaker A:

Period, Y', all.

Speaker B:

It's the book.

Speaker A:

So glad you came.

Speaker B:

I love you.

Speaker B:

I can't leave without you signing my book.

Speaker A:

Of course.

Speaker A:

Period.

Speaker A:

You need.

Speaker B:

I need you to sign my book.

Speaker A:

I have to.

Speaker A:

Immediately.

Speaker B:

I need you to sign my book.

Speaker A:

All right, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

Well, we love you.

Speaker B:

And I got a Versace rub, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

Y' all see her?

Speaker A:

She got her Versace.

Speaker B:

My last boyfriend didn't even get one of these for me.

Speaker A:

TT Did.

Speaker A:

That's what I'm here for.

Speaker B:

TT There.

Speaker A:

But now we out.

Speaker A:

Love y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

Thank you so much.

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Dr. Stance holds a Ph.D. in Psychology with a concentration in Trauma-Informed Care, providing a strong clinical and academic foundation for the work led across all programs and initiatives. This advanced training informs Dr. Stance’s approach to mental health advocacy, foster care reform, mentorship, and community-based services, ensuring practices are evidence-informed, ethically grounded, and responsive to the impacts of trauma.

Dr. Stance’s work is deeply informed by lived experience shaped by childhood trauma, providing a personal and empathetic understanding of the challenges faced by foster youth and system-impacted individuals. Having navigated early adversity, instability, and the long-term effects of trauma, Dr. Stance brings both professional expertise and personal insight to the development of programs that prioritize safety, trust, and empowerment. This lived experience strengthens Dr. Stance’s connection to foster youth and individuals in care, allowing for services that are not only clinically sound but also grounded in compassion, relatability, and authenticity. Rather than approaching trauma from theory alone, Dr. Stance integrates real-world understanding into mentorship, program design, and leadership—ensuring individuals feel seen, supported, and capable of growth beyond their circumstances.

Dr. Stance is a purpose-driven leader, author, and mental health advocate dedicated to transforming hustle into sustainable legacy. As the founder and CEO of the non-profit, BWIT Luxurious Fostering, Dr. Stance is redefining trauma-informed care for foster youth and adults through dignity, structure, and empowerment. Dr. Stance is the creator and host of the podcast Turning Hustle Into Legacy, where discipline, faith, mindset, and leadership intersect to build generational impact. An author of From a Hoe to C.E.O., Dr. Stance uses lived experience, mentorship, and mental health advocacy to help individuals move from survival to purpose.