Episode 31

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Published on:

15th Jun 2026

B-Legit: The Hyphy Movement and Beyond

Dr. Stance sits down with the legendary B-Legit for a vibrant chat that’s all about turning hustle into legacy. They dive into the ups and downs of the music industry, with B-Legit sharing his journey from Grambling State University to becoming a key player in the Bay Area hip-hop scene. It’s not just about the beats and rhymes; they touch on the importance of self-love and accountability, especially for the youth navigating tough circumstances. With playful banter and heartfelt wisdom, B-Legit opens up about family, the evolution of hip-hop culture, and the impact of community. Get ready for some laughs, insights, and a deeper understanding of what it means to build a lasting legacy in today’s world!

Transcript
Speaker A:

What's up?

Speaker A:

What's up?

Speaker A:

Y' all know who it is.

Speaker A:

Dr. Stance.

Speaker A:

Your girl turning hustle into a legacy with my guy.

Speaker A:

Listen, international Mr. B. Legit.

Speaker A:

What's good?

Speaker B:

Hey, what's going down?

Speaker B:

What's going down?

Speaker A:

What's up, man?

Speaker A:

It's an honor to have you, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

You know I'm authentic.

Speaker A:

I just was telling him, I think.

Speaker A:

I don't even know what event that was in Frisco.

Speaker A:

I think Fab and all was there.

Speaker A:

The man had a huge entourage.

Speaker A:

I slid right on through.

Speaker A:

It's like, bela, you know you're supposed to be there on this.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

This whole crew looked at me like, who is this lady?

Speaker A:

What's up with you?

Speaker B:

I mean, coming.

Speaker B:

Everything's good.

Speaker B:

You know, we've been working.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

We working.

Speaker B:

Got a lot of things coming up.

Speaker A:

Like what?

Speaker A:

Talk to the people.

Speaker A:

What we got.

Speaker A:

I know you was just at Pete's.

Speaker A:

You know, that's my homie.

Speaker A:

Shout out to Big Mike Rob.

Speaker A:

You was there?

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, we did that.

Speaker B:

That was during the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I was there.

Speaker A:

I seen you.

Speaker B:

But, yeah, now we got.

Speaker B:

We got a big 420 thing coming up.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker B:

You know, that's the holiday for the people.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker B:

So with that being said.

Speaker B:

Yeah, me burner.

Speaker B:

Who was that?

Speaker B:

Yuck mouth?

Speaker B:

I think so.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Loonies or whatever.

Speaker A:

Shout out to them.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they're gonna be on.

Speaker B:

There we go.

Speaker B:

We're gonna blow it up one time for the bay.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

They'll be at Midway in San Francisco.

Speaker A:

Where?

Speaker B:

It's gonna be at Midway.

Speaker A:

When is this?

Speaker B:

420.

Speaker A:

Oh, am I high like that?

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, no, I'm.

Speaker A:

Where's that?

Speaker A:

That's Frisco.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's in Frisco.

Speaker B:

Midway.

Speaker B:

Some, you know, nice little venue.

Speaker A:

I never been there.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna see what's up.

Speaker A:

You can send me the information.

Speaker A:

Shout out to Nucci.

Speaker A:

I need that.

Speaker A:

I need to.

Speaker A:

Please.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Anyway, so listen, you know, I did a little research.

Speaker A:

Everybody be kind of clowning me, cuz I never do research on the guest, right?

Speaker A:

I just don't.

Speaker A:

Cuz I wanted to be more authentic, right?

Speaker A:

But I had to do a little on you.

Speaker A:

I seen Gremlin.

Speaker A:

Am I saying it right?

Speaker A:

Gremlin, Louisiana.

Speaker A:

Somebody got some education around here.

Speaker A:

Is that what we're doing here?

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

You know, I like.

Speaker B:

We dipped off the Grand State University and made our impact.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker A:

You know, What I'm saying, I like it Educated.

Speaker A:

What was your major like?

Speaker A:

What was you.

Speaker A:

What was it about up in there in Louisiana?

Speaker B:

I was going for computer technology at the time, and.

Speaker B:

But, you know, your first year, that's, like, hard.

Speaker B:

Nah, that's your.

Speaker B:

That's your party year.

Speaker B:

That's your party year, you know, freshman year.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You just taking.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you're just taking your general education.

Speaker B:

So, you know, to get in there.

Speaker B:

So we went in there, man, and we.

Speaker B:

We made an impact.

Speaker B:

You know, we started rapping up there.

Speaker A:

I heard.

Speaker A:

I was just gonna get to that.

Speaker A:

You eat 40, sugar, tea.

Speaker A:

The whole little squad.

Speaker A:

You created your group, right?

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

And Grambling, it was just me and 40 and my boy, Waldo Bensworth got you from Oakland.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we.

Speaker B:

We redid the Grandma State University alma mater.

Speaker B:

We just turned it into a rap and performed it at a talent show.

Speaker A:

And that was it.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that was it.

Speaker A:

That was it.

Speaker A:

That was it.

Speaker A:

That was it.

Speaker A:

I seen it.

Speaker A:

I said, okay, well, listen, the man is educated.

Speaker A:

I know you married, you got family.

Speaker A:

I really appreciate that.

Speaker A:

You still in the game.

Speaker A:

One to me, you know, my show is turning hustle into a legacy.

Speaker A:

You're a legacy, right?

Speaker A:

You've been around probably before I was born.

Speaker A:

Like, definitely.

Speaker B:

Definitely.

Speaker A:

Like, you've been around.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

And you've been in the industry.

Speaker A:

I didn't know you was E40's cousin.

Speaker A:

Like, y' all family.

Speaker A:

I didn't know that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it was so slow.

Speaker B:

I didn't know it's the rock that you was under.

Speaker B:

Was it brown or.

Speaker B:

It was a big rock that you was under?

Speaker B:

Everybody's.

Speaker A:

It was black, full of.

Speaker A:

Because I didn't literally.

Speaker A:

Well, you know, I'm new to the game, right?

Speaker A:

Meaning, like, it being out in the industry, I've been tucked.

Speaker A:

I've been in school 11 years.

Speaker A:

I got a PhD in psychology, so I ain't even been in the streets.

Speaker A:

So this is fun for me to get to know you guys and, you know, learn a part of Oakland's history.

Speaker A:

Of course I know.

Speaker A:

I know your music, but I don't know y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

And that's why I think I created this platform.

Speaker A:

Cause I wanna know y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

And speaking of, what is something, like, the people don't know about you?

Speaker A:

Cause I did my own little research.

Speaker A:

But what is it something they don't know?

Speaker A:

Maybe.

Speaker B:

I mean, you know, we did go to Grammar, but I didn't graduate from Grammar.

Speaker B:

I graduated from Hill, so.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But I Ended up with a, you know, a bachelor's degree.

Speaker A:

So, period.

Speaker B:

I got mine.

Speaker B:

Never used it.

Speaker A:

That's okay.

Speaker B:

Probably don't know nothing about it right now, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Because soon after I graduated, the music went like this.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but that's about it, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I'm an open book.

Speaker B:

Like, all my music documents my life, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So you go back and get the old music and like, oh, this is what he was on.

Speaker A:

What's your favorite song you wrote?

Speaker A:

Mine was international, for sure.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I know the people's favorite is City to City.

Speaker B:

And I think I like two songs.

Speaker B:

I like is Best Friend and Ghetto Smile.

Speaker A:

Ghetto Smile, I like that.

Speaker A:

What does that represent?

Speaker A:

What does that mean?

Speaker A:

I actually like that.

Speaker B:

I mean, the ghetto smile is basically, you know, the things that we like to look at life as an experience and the experience that hood brought to you in your life, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

It might not have been a pretty thing, but it molded you in a way to what you became.

Speaker B:

So it's like, I love that.

Speaker B:

That's a smile.

Speaker B:

That's a happy thing.

Speaker B:

Being in the hood when it was good, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Everybody getting along.

Speaker B:

You can go to your neighbor's house and borrow sugar.

Speaker A:

Them days over for sure.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but that was the ghetto smile, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Just growing up.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker A:

So tell me, so, you know, if you didn't know about me, I just wrote my little book, Hold a CEO.

Speaker A:

I think I told noochee a little bit to look me up, you know, I house a lot of the foster youth in the industry of transitional housing.

Speaker A:

So I House over 50, and I got 50 locations just, you know, kids from all different ethnicities and genres.

Speaker A:

And I mean, we got murderers, we got.

Speaker A:

I mean, rapists, we got arsonists, we got all kind of kids, you know, in the walk of life.

Speaker A:

What was something that you would tell them?

Speaker A:

Cause I know you growing up, what, in the 70s, is that safe to say, or the 80s?

Speaker B:

That's 70s.

Speaker B:

80S.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Okay, I'll take that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

So what is something that you see that's different from today's gener?

Speaker A:

Besides, we all know social media because it's a lot different, I'm sure.

Speaker B:

Yeah, social media, it's just really like the respect level went out the window, you know, it used to be like, you know, when big mama was alive, if she called you by your first and middle name, you said, ma', am.

Speaker B:

The baddest, you know, nigga on the street running around beating up everybody but his grandmama call him.

Speaker A:

And he, he sketched if he on his way.

Speaker B:

Respectfully, you know, respectfully, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So I think the respect went out the window when kids was having kids and thought it was an idea for them to let their kids cuss and do whatever they want to and dress them how they want to.

Speaker B:

And then the result came and then crack came and, you know, and then kids had to raise themselves.

Speaker B:

So here we are with a generation of kids that had to raise themselves and you're almost afraid to talk to them, to say the wrong thing to them because they, they don't go, they don't tilt.

Speaker B:

They, they got, they got them switches and they not playing at all with nobody, nobody.

Speaker A:

And they just, they careless.

Speaker A:

They don't even, they, I think they was robbing some old lady that just got robbed and Oakland, right?

Speaker A:

And I'm just like, God, we wasn't doing that.

Speaker A:

We keep it or we kept it within our age bracket.

Speaker A:

Now they just, it's gloves off.

Speaker A:

What do you think changed the game?

Speaker A:

Like, what is it?

Speaker A:

I think, I know, I think that.

Speaker B:

With change, times change, economy changes, a lot of things.

Speaker B:

You know, we came up in the era where everybody was getting money, so to speak, so it wasn't nothing to hate on.

Speaker B:

He got, you know, two chains of car and this and that and that and oh, he got this and you know, and people were actually, you know, gifting other people fancy gifts for their birthdays and things like that, you know, on some player player type shit, right?

Speaker B:

But now that the resources are dried up and the game is no longer in that form of fashion, they see the glitz and glamour through the social media and they want to participate in it, but they don't have the funds to, or to know how to get the funds.

Speaker B:

So they just result to crime, crime, whatever it is, scamming, biffing, holding, hold up, stick up kids, whatever it is they gotta do, by all means, they own that.

Speaker B:

They running up in stores, 50 deep jewelry stores, whatever they gotta do.

Speaker A:

Just did it again in Fremont, I think a couple days ago.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they're not playing no games.

Speaker A:

It's no games.

Speaker A:

On top of, we in war, right?

Speaker A:

We on war in the streets and in real life internationally.

Speaker A:

Like, it's like, it's like, where do we catch a break?

Speaker A:

You know, and that's funny, you were saying that because for me it's really heartbreaking.

Speaker A:

It's really sad that like you said, you can't go get no more sugar from your neighbor.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

You knock on that door, you knock on that door, you liable to get shot.

Speaker A:

Like that's where we at right now.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, and it's really, actually heartbreaking.

Speaker A:

It really breaks my heart.

Speaker A:

What is something that's happening today that literally breaks your heart?

Speaker A:

I think I asked.

Speaker A:

I can't remember who I asked that, but it was a very good question.

Speaker A:

Cause for me it's the lack of community, like us working together.

Speaker B:

It's definitely lack of community.

Speaker B:

It's more or less like whatever plan that was sought out to conquer, divide, divide and conquer is.

Speaker B:

It worked, you know, and this is a result of it.

Speaker B:

And then, you know, a lot of people are not really like conscious of what's going on or what it is.

Speaker B:

They just what we call NPCs non player.

Speaker B:

They just floating with the wind.

Speaker B:

They don't care about nothing.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So, yeah.

Speaker B:

So things that really you know, kind of like saddens me is because I do have a five year old, soon to be five year old daughter.

Speaker A:

Very, very young.

Speaker B:

Yeah, very young.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

He's still working out here, huh?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So the world that she has to live in, you know what I'm saying, is scary.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Spooky.

Speaker A:

Very scary.

Speaker B:

It's spooky.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

What made you have a daughter so late when you have her?

Speaker A:

About what?

Speaker A:

How old is you?

Speaker B:

You know, you don't ask people these days, but I'm 58.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I did not think 58.

Speaker A:

I was gonna say about 49.

Speaker B:

No, my shit.

Speaker B:

Everything about me is on public record.

Speaker B:

Cause I am a public figure.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

You know, that's what it is.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

But I wouldn't have thought 58.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker A:

So you had a good one at about 53, 54.

Speaker A:

That's what's up.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So I like it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know, and I went on ancestral.com one time and I. I looked on there and I seen that my grandfather had my father at 57.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I don't know, you know, it might be something that runs up in them jeans recycling type of situation, but.

Speaker A:

You know, how is that running around a five year old though?

Speaker A:

I can't even do it at 43.

Speaker B:

It's good because, you know, it's when I was younger and I had.

Speaker B:

Cause I do have adult kids too, but during that time, you know, I'm running around, I'm on tour, working, working.

Speaker B:

I'm more of a dad now because I'm, you know, things have slowed down.

Speaker B:

I'm at the house more.

Speaker B:

I'm more hands on.

Speaker A:

Good for you.

Speaker B:

So I was blessed with that opportunity to see what that experience is, really is, because, you know, life itself and whole is an experience.

Speaker B:

You know, if you die, you might wake up and they'd be like, hey, so what you do with your experience?

Speaker B:

Shit, man, I was just kicking it.

Speaker B:

Smoking weed in the park.

Speaker B:

I ain't do shit.

Speaker A:

Well, me personally.

Speaker A:

You are a legend.

Speaker A:

And what is something that you think people would say about you if you was to go, like, what would they say?

Speaker A:

Cause you're chill as ever.

Speaker A:

I'm on the yard.

Speaker B:

You know what?

Speaker B:

They fuck with Bela, they fuck with B.

Speaker B:

They know B got good energy.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you do.

Speaker B:

And he fuck with the people and they fuck with him back.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You are what you are for a purpose.

Speaker B:

You know, I was made like this because I do touch the people and I talk to the people and somewhat be a messenger too, you know.

Speaker B:

So what, I can do the same as you do with the posture.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So you're doing your works, too, and what position the universe puts you in, and that's all you really can do.

Speaker A:

I see.

Speaker A:

And it's a blessing to.

Speaker A:

Actually, I call that knowing your purpose.

Speaker A:

It's a blessing to know your purpose because a lot of people still walking around don't know what to do with their life, and they late 50s, 60s, and they just don't even know what to do.

Speaker A:

But like you said, get high at the park.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Dominoes.

Speaker A:

They playing dominoes.

Speaker A:

Hopefully they retired and got some type of pension, but.

Speaker A:

But, you know, you know, I. I literally am just getting in this podcasting game, so.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

The industry, it's a cold game out here.

Speaker B:

Definitely.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker A:

It's cold.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know, would talk about the marijuana industry, you know, that's even colder.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I had gotten into the marijuana industry, you know, on the legal side of things, right in the dispensary.

Speaker B:

And I was like, you know, hey, okay, this is gonna be good.

Speaker B:

You know, you ain't gotta chase people down for your money no more.

Speaker B:

And, you know, this is where it's at.

Speaker B:

It's terrible.

Speaker B:

It was terrible.

Speaker A:

It's worse.

Speaker B:

It was worse.

Speaker B:

You had to chase people down.

Speaker B:

You had to go to Court, you had to do all kind of stuff.

Speaker B:

I was like, damn, damn.

Speaker B:

It's worse than the streets and you trying to do something legit, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And still run into the same issues, no matter which way you swing it.

Speaker B:

But, you know, that's good.

Speaker A:

My homeboy actually opened one.

Speaker A:

I forget that it's actually a popping one.

Speaker A:

I forget the freaking name of on Telegraph in Oakland.

Speaker A:

I forget the name of it.

Speaker A:

Rooted.

Speaker B:

Rooted.

Speaker A:

You're not rooted.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I think he opened his.

Speaker A:

The second day.

Speaker A:

Folks drove a truck through the stove and cleaned this whole entire store out on the second day of opening.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they.

Speaker B:

When they had opened the food, when they had the George Floyd situation going on, and, man, that shit was crazy.

Speaker B:

It's like, it seemed like somebody just like, hey, all the demons wake up.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, let's go, let's go.

Speaker B:

And they just start purging.

Speaker B:

Everybody just hit the streets, doing whatever they was doing.

Speaker B:

Just animals coming.

Speaker B:

It's like, man, you can't get these.

Speaker B:

All these together for a picnic, but get some money.

Speaker B:

Let's go.

Speaker B:

Time to go do something like that.

Speaker B:

They, man, they coming cars deep, and they coming from other cities and they.

Speaker A:

It's a whole movement.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It's like, okay, it's like we all finna hit this target on such and such, and they just all come in there at one time and they smash and grab.

Speaker A:

So that's what that is.

Speaker A:

Because I'm wondering, even with the one on Fremont, I'm like, how do they.

Speaker A:

And it's like 20 of them.

Speaker B:

Well, they just riding around in cars, you know, and they just popping out and doing what they doing.

Speaker B:

But, yeah, that's just, you know, that's.

Speaker B:

That's wild.

Speaker B:

That's the wild, wild West.

Speaker A:

I think it's just like you said, the economy is just.

Speaker A:

Everything is going up, and it's even harder now to obtain employment.

Speaker A:

And then it's hard to.

Speaker A:

You know, a lot of these kids don't know how to go sign up for school.

Speaker A:

Shout out to you, getting your education, your bachelor's degree.

Speaker A:

I don't care where you got it from.

Speaker A:

You went to educate yourself.

Speaker A:

I'm big on that.

Speaker A:

So shout out to you on that.

Speaker A:

How do you feel about your kids?

Speaker A:

You want them all going to college?

Speaker A:

Like, what's that life like as being a dad?

Speaker A:

Cause I know you still be doing your little thing.

Speaker A:

You doing a podcast or, you know, going to some shows.

Speaker A:

Like, what?

Speaker A:

That's like, being at home with Your dad and dad being a daddy and white.

Speaker B:

No, that's cool.

Speaker B:

It's a beautiful thing, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You know, to watch your creation develop and learn different ways, and you get to contour the way that they live.

Speaker B:

And, you know, sometimes you're like, okay, I grew up like this.

Speaker B:

I really don't want this for her.

Speaker B:

So we're gonna try to direct it in this way.

Speaker B:

And it's just like anything you get out of it, what you put into it.

Speaker B:

So I'm trying to put a lot into it so that when the seeds sprout, we get a lot out of it.

Speaker A:

Oh, I like that.

Speaker A:

He dropped a gem.

Speaker A:

What's another gem?

Speaker A:

Drop that gym.

Speaker A:

So we get that clickbait like that.

Speaker A:

You didn't even need them.

Speaker A:

Clickbai.

Speaker A:

You know what is something that, like, I said to me, you just an all around legend.

Speaker A:

And you wouldn't even believe, because sometimes I have my cousin, you probably shout out to Jamo Capone and all them.

Speaker A:

You know, when they come, they're like, wait, who coming?

Speaker A:

I'm finna come there.

Speaker A:

No, y' all not like, no, you know, you a legend.

Speaker A:

They own you.

Speaker A:

They like, oh, even mo better.

Speaker A:

He just left.

Speaker A:

Mo better.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Ronski, he was like, I'm gonna wait on him.

Speaker A:

I'm like, man, B, look gonna be 20 minutes.

Speaker A:

Like, he's like, dang.

Speaker A:

You know, they all want to wait on you and see you.

Speaker A:

So I actually admire that, you know, getting into the industry.

Speaker B:

They be on you, you know, they own you.

Speaker B:

I took my time and, you know, and got to know and hung out with all the top dogs in different neighborhoods and, like, Frisco and, you know, Oakland and stuff, and smart.

Speaker B:

And, you know, we've been around and it's like, you know, hey, we've been around.

Speaker B:

We've been through the silly, the sillies and the goofies.

Speaker B:

We here.

Speaker B:

So we.

Speaker B:

We locked in now.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Let me know if you need me.

Speaker B:

Let me know if you ever need something.

Speaker B:

You know, we just phone calls away from each other.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

Now that's.

Speaker A:

Y' all hear that?

Speaker A:

That's support.

Speaker A:

Well, to me, you in 40.

Speaker A:

Y' all started that Hyphae movement.

Speaker A:

Y' all start.

Speaker B:

No, no, I didn't.

Speaker A:

Yeah, look here, we.

Speaker A:

Who started the Hyphae movement?

Speaker B:

The Hyphae movement was.

Speaker B:

I don't know who exactly started it.

Speaker A:

I would say E40.

Speaker B:

No, I know E40 was definitely on the song Hyphy that came out.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

But as far as when you say the movement, we're talking about what people were doing.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Like going dumb.

Speaker A:

Dumb.

Speaker A:

All that hypey movement.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

But I'm saying 40 wasn't hopping on top of no cars.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that was us.

Speaker B:

He didn't represent that far as him saying he doing it, but he reported it, that this is what the movement is.

Speaker B:

The movement is.

Speaker B:

This is what the generation is doing now.

Speaker B:

And that's what you are as an artist.

Speaker B:

You are.

Speaker B:

You kind of report to what's going on.

Speaker A:

God, I like how you said that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And that's what artists do.

Speaker B:

So for him to say that he was out there popping pills and going dumb and doing the movement.

Speaker B:

No, that's not what he.

Speaker B:

He didn't start that.

Speaker B:

Somebody else did that.

Speaker B:

But he was the first one to get on the song and report it and make it go viral.

Speaker B:

Viral.

Speaker B:

And just reporting on what's going on in the region.

Speaker A:

I'm glad you put that.

Speaker A:

Well spoken.

Speaker A:

Because in my mind, me being an outsider, especially, let's say people like, when I travel, they're like, oh, you from the town.

Speaker A:

Y' all from the hyphae movement.

Speaker A:

That's what literally everybody said, west coast hyphae.

Speaker B:

So hyphae movement is a cultural aspect of things.

Speaker B:

It's not one person.

Speaker B:

It's what's going on.

Speaker B:

It's what they did at that particular time.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker B:

But I like to say the Bay has always been very diversified as far as hip hop music, you know, hypey music, mob music, any kind of music, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Because we got different cultures out here, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So we didn't just get caught up in one genre of music, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I agree.

Speaker B:

It was.

Speaker B:

That was a phase we went through, and we kept it moving.

Speaker A:

It's still moving.

Speaker A:

Like, literally.

Speaker A:

I think it's just different generationally, like, it's just different.

Speaker A:

It's definitely different.

Speaker A:

But we are known for the movement.

Speaker A:

Our music is definitely different from East coast, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

But shout out to west coast, man.

Speaker B:

We.

Speaker A:

We.

Speaker A:

We always been special.

Speaker A:

I think what you got coming up, what's coming up for be legit.

Speaker A:

Like, what we doing?

Speaker B:

We dropping some.

Speaker B:

We had a couple albums, you know, for the Block Movement.

Speaker B:

That's my label, too.

Speaker B:

We got a couple of projects coming out, coming through there.

Speaker B:

We got the block movement one, volume one, and it's called hip hop.

Speaker B:

Hip hop.

Speaker B:

Hip hop volume one.

Speaker B:

And hip hop volume two, I think we're gonna drop it on 420.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

It's already a video that's been up called Do It For.

Speaker B:

I dropped that few months back.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

But, yeah, King Sato and Taji Spits and Aki.

Speaker B:

Aki.

Speaker B:

We all been in.

Speaker B:

In the lab getting it in, so.

Speaker B:

And I'm working on my solo, too.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna drop these first two.

Speaker B:

I'm all over there.

Speaker B:

I got solo stuff on both of the projects.

Speaker B:

But then my main album gonna come out this summer, too.

Speaker A:

Think.

Speaker A:

Have you thought about acting?

Speaker A:

That's a new thing.

Speaker A:

Like, even with J style.

Speaker A:

And everybody's going into the acting world, man.

Speaker B:

My dudes in Detroit, man.

Speaker B:

Shout Out, Murder Pain and my boy Shorty.

Speaker B:

They.

Speaker B:

They've been trying to get me to.

Speaker B:

They, you know, do it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Do it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

They gonna try to come.

Speaker B:

They might.

Speaker B:

They might come out here and.

Speaker B:

And put it together.

Speaker A:

You should.

Speaker A:

I want it.

Speaker A:

Can I be.

Speaker A:

I want to be in it.

Speaker A:

I ain't good at acting.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker B:

But you never know, though.

Speaker A:

I tried it once.

Speaker A:

I. I was just telling them, I said four words.

Speaker A:

I literally did, like, 70 takes off four words.

Speaker A:

I couldn't get it right.

Speaker B:

You was probably nervous.

Speaker A:

I was happy.

Speaker B:

You know, they say doing what you're doing now, podcasting, being in front of these cameras, soon, you.

Speaker B:

It's just a natural thing.

Speaker A:

It's definitely natural.

Speaker B:

You know that they running and you know that.

Speaker B:

You know what's going on.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

And that's why, honestly with me, like, I think I was talking about this.

Speaker A:

I forgot.

Speaker A:

Who was that?

Speaker A:

That was last year.

Speaker A:

Mo better.

Speaker A:

How?

Speaker A:

It's not scripted.

Speaker A:

Mine ain't scripted.

Speaker A:

Cause everybody be like, hey, I'm like, uh.

Speaker A:

Cause I'mma forget.

Speaker A:

I'm definitely authentic.

Speaker A:

And I just run and play it like this.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I ain't got no scripted questions.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

I'm just gonna ask you off the top of my head.

Speaker A:

I be having your people in the thing.

Speaker A:

I be asking him questions.

Speaker A:

What's that over there?

Speaker A:

Mine just is just natural.

Speaker A:

And honestly, I think that's why my views and everything and all of it is going up.

Speaker A:

Because it is authentic.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And to me, I just give y' all a platform for y' all to talk and for y' all to tell the people, the vulnerable side about y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

Like, a lot of people probably didn't know that.

Speaker A:

Well, me.

Speaker A:

Cause I was under The Black Rock.

Speaker A:

But they probably didn't know.

Speaker A:

Got the whiteies on them.

Speaker A:

Look, but they probably didn't know, you know, a lot of this stuff.

Speaker A:

Like me, I didn't know you was cool.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And you know what?

Speaker B:

And that's good because this is what your platform is for, is to get to know the people that you bring up there.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

And then, you know, even in a better style, you know, some people do say ask questions, but what you're building is what you building.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So it's like how you feel and the questions you want to ask.

Speaker B:

So that's cool.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's better for me because I tried it my first one with the cards.

Speaker A:

I put them down immediately.

Speaker A:

I just couldn't do it.

Speaker A:

I like to be authentic.

Speaker A:

I like to ask questions.

Speaker A:

He has some cheezes.

Speaker A:

I'm like, eat the cheez.

Speaker A:

Its on the thing.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, just authentic Bubb.

Speaker A:

Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

I like it to be straight, real.

Speaker A:

420.

Speaker A:

So what else is coming out will be legit before we let you go?

Speaker A:

Cause, you know, Dr. Stan's got them surprises for you for sure.

Speaker B:

Yeah, no, we, like I said, we moving.

Speaker B:

We got a lot of shows.

Speaker B:

We hitting the Midwest down South, you know, it's a block movement, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And we moving.

Speaker A:

I like that, you know.

Speaker A:

Well, I sure appreciate you blessing my platform.

Speaker A:

And I want to ask you one last thing because, you know, like I said, my foster kids, they know you, right?

Speaker A:

Just so you know, they all, everybody knows, be legit.

Speaker A:

Come on now.

Speaker A:

Even Percy.

Speaker A:

Shout out to Percy Money.

Speaker A:

He was like, oh, shoot, you got be legit.

Speaker A:

I'm like, yeah, he was excited to know that you coming.

Speaker A:

But basically, you know, with the foster youth, I always try to do a shout out to them in regards to, you know, if you came up in a situation with a lot of trauma, what is something positive that you would tell them to get through?

Speaker B:

Man?

Speaker B:

You know, self love, you know, you gotta love, love yourself.

Speaker B:

And that's where it starts at.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

You know, the older you get, the wiser you get and you start to understand, you know, situation, you stop and pointing the fingers.

Speaker A:

Taking accountability.

Speaker B:

Yeah, taking accountability.

Speaker B:

And this is just your experience, this is what you chose to do and you can overcome it.

Speaker B:

There's an exit.

Speaker B:

You just gotta get in there and find out what it is, but enjoy everything that happens in between it because, you know, it's an experience which you learn from it.

Speaker B:

Then you learn, hey, I can't touch this.

Speaker B:

This is hot.

Speaker B:

It burns.

Speaker B:

A baby learns that you say, hey, hot.

Speaker B:

And they'd be like, huh, Hot.

Speaker B:

Then they touch it and they got.

Speaker B:

And then they, oh yeah, hot.

Speaker B:

Now they know not to do that.

Speaker B:

So it's like, you can learn from a baby, you know, pay attention.

Speaker B:

But you know, you gotta love yourself, love the cards that you was dealt, pick up the pieces and you know, focus, man.

Speaker B:

Because all the success stories that you hear starts with trauma.

Speaker B:

Oh, a lot of them like that starts with, oh man, I came up with no dad, single mom, or we moved from here to here.

Speaker B:

Woo, woo, woo.

Speaker B:

Woah, woah.

Speaker B:

But then this is your star wide receiver, this is your star rapper, this is your star singer.

Speaker B:

Because the adversity that they went through is what built that character and built that drive to got them to be successful.

Speaker A:

That was a gem for you.

Speaker A:

A lot of successful people start with trauma.

Speaker B:

So don't look upon your situation as a bad situation.

Speaker B:

You look at your situation as, okay, I got to go through this now and learn these gyms and everything now so I don't have to go through it later.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker A:

I totally like.

Speaker A:

That was a real gym dropper.

Speaker A:

Because I think a lot of people are walking around not healed from their trauma.

Speaker B:

It's a lot of mental health going on.

Speaker B:

But with it being mental health, it's is still common in our people.

Speaker A:

We the highest.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Jethro, if you don't get your retarded butt up there and watch them dishes and he gonna take his ass in there and wash them damn dishes.

Speaker A:

We wash the dishes at four years old.

Speaker B:

We not playing that.

Speaker B:

I'm slow.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you gonna slow your ass right there and rake them leaves up with your slow ass.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So facts.

Speaker B:

We don't.

Speaker B:

That's the way I grew up.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

You know, tough love.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's tough love going for that, that handicap shit.

Speaker A:

Me neither.

Speaker B:

No, no, we finna work hard work pays off.

Speaker B:

I was mowing lines at 10 years old nigga getting beat by the old man down the street.

Speaker B:

He getting 100, he giving me 10.

Speaker B:

But that was my experience.

Speaker B:

I learned experience, you know, I became him.

Speaker B:

And then I was giving little niggas 10, I was getting 100.

Speaker A:

See, hey, y' all heard him.

Speaker B:

That's how it go.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker A:

Do you believe in tough love for your kids?

Speaker A:

Like I do.

Speaker B:

I, I personally, I definitely do.

Speaker B:

So at a point in time.

Speaker B:

Now it's different for, for the girls, I can't lie.

Speaker A:

Ah, they worse.

Speaker B:

No, no, no.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

It's for Daddy.

Speaker A:

A daddy for a daddy.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

You know when they call you Daddy?

Speaker A:

Oh, my.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

It's different.

Speaker A:

Same when women call y' all Daddy.

Speaker A:

I don't know how to act.

Speaker A:

Same thing.

Speaker B:

But for that little.

Speaker B:

For that little nigga, you got the easy way and you got the hard way.

Speaker B:

Which one we working with.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

If you do right, listen and obey.

Speaker B:

And you got the easy way.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

But I definitely got the hard way for you.

Speaker B:

Because that's where I come from.

Speaker B:

That.

Speaker A:

Me, too.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I know where it.

Speaker B:

Rice on the ground.

Speaker B:

You sitting on your knees in that corner.

Speaker B:

Feel like.

Speaker B:

See, I got all that.

Speaker B:

You know.

Speaker B:

You wanna go out there, steal somebody a lawnmower and make you a Go kart, Sit your ass down there on that thing.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I mean, you know, that's how we got it.

Speaker B:

We picked our own switches.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Oh, I.

Speaker A:

And don't get the smallest one.

Speaker A:

Cause it's cookies if she got to go pick that switch.

Speaker A:

Cause you done brought the smallest one.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

You really.

Speaker B:

You in trouble.

Speaker A:

You in trouble.

Speaker B:

You in trouble.

Speaker A:

We picked.

Speaker A:

Dang.

Speaker A:

So that's a whole generation doing that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Ye.

Speaker B:

But see that.

Speaker B:

All that went out the window.

Speaker B:

And if you don't remember that, if it's what instilled in your family, I mean, you know what happens.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna close after this, too.

Speaker A:

No, we could keep going.

Speaker A:

I didn't wanna.

Speaker A:

I didn't wanna hold.

Speaker A:

Y' all know, he think he got stuff to do.

Speaker B:

So, you know, families migrated, like, from the South.

Speaker B:

But I'm speaking on Vallejo.

Speaker B:

A lot of families migrated from the South.

Speaker B:

My grandmother came from the South.

Speaker B:

She worked at the shipyard.

Speaker B:

She was an underwater welder.

Speaker A:

Oh, wow.

Speaker B:

And ended up with a house on Main street, which was a big deal back then.

Speaker B:

Back then, you lived on Main Street.

Speaker B:

You was balling.

Speaker B:

So a lot of those people migrate out there for jobs.

Speaker B:

And that's how they got there.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And they brought their ways with them.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

My mom and them never used to buy their greens at the store.

Speaker B:

Safeway.

Speaker B:

That would be a disgrace.

Speaker A:

What'd they do?

Speaker B:

They might be in the backyard.

Speaker A:

In the backyard.

Speaker B:

If they wasn't in the backyard, she was going down the middle street to see the green man.

Speaker B:

He got em.

Speaker A:

I look for the low and you.

Speaker B:

Might wake up one day and go outside and you know, mama in the backyard ringing a chicken neck.

Speaker A:

No, for.

Speaker B:

Oh, and Finn to pluck it because she talking about this fresh chicken.

Speaker B:

They come from a farming different era.

Speaker B:

They ate different.

Speaker B:

So when you say.

Speaker B:

Well, my granddaddy, you know, he.

Speaker B:

He ate pork all his life.

Speaker B:

He lived to be 70, 80 years old.

Speaker B:

Because it was different.

Speaker B:

They raised the animals.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

The animals didn't have no GMO in it, you know, so it's just different structures.

Speaker B:

You know, I even forgot what I was even telling you.

Speaker A:

So they get high.

Speaker A:

That's why just smoke so much weed for 20.

Speaker A:

God dang it.

Speaker A:

Now it's totally fine.

Speaker A:

But you know, I.

Speaker A:

Cause you said you, you went to Grim, Louisiana.

Speaker A:

Any of your people from Louisiana?

Speaker A:

My granny from Lake Charles, definitely, man.

Speaker B:

We was in Bernice, Louisiana.

Speaker A:

Okay,.

Speaker B:

Listen.

Speaker B:

No, because I, I drove down.

Speaker B:

I drove down there.

Speaker B:

I have a lot of patience.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So very calm, spirited.

Speaker A:

What's your sign?

Speaker B:

Capricorn.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's my daughter.

Speaker A:

Earth, definitely.

Speaker A:

And that's you, Percy.

Speaker A:

Virgo.

Speaker A:

Air signs.

Speaker A:

You guys are very calm people.

Speaker B:

Earth science.

Speaker A:

I mean, Earth signs.

Speaker A:

I'm saying.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Earth signs.

Speaker A:

You guys are very, very calm people.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But so when realists too.

Speaker B:

When we was leaving California, the game had just started.

Speaker B:

It was, it was on fire.

Speaker B:

You know, everybody was balling, hanging out on the corners and stuff.

Speaker B:

And we get to Gramlin, this.

Speaker B:

It was like going back in time a little bit.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Quiet.

Speaker B:

And you know.

Speaker B:

But one thing I, I liked about it is, okay, you in a little city, a little town, but you can get to Bernice.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You get to Monroe, you try to Baton Rouge, you know, saying you go to Arkansas, Texarkana, like you getting there within two or three hours.

Speaker B:

Whichever part of everything.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So that's what I really enjoyed about that.

Speaker B:

Because driving California, just even from.

Speaker B:

If you tried to drive from Eureka to San Diego, that's a day that's like.

Speaker A:

It ain't even that many hours.

Speaker B:

Like 14, 14 hours or some like that in Texas is even worse though.

Speaker A:

Oh yeah.

Speaker B:

I remember driving to Texas, where I drove from California to Gremlin.

Speaker B:

Oh, and I had to drive through Texas.

Speaker B:

Oh, and I got through California and Mexico pretty quick, so I thought I was grooving.

Speaker B:

Got to Texas at 7 in the morning.

Speaker B:

I didn't get to Dallas till 9:30 that night.

Speaker B:

That motherfucker Texas was a bad motherfucker.

Speaker B:

I said, I took my hat off to Texas.

Speaker B:

Oh, but here, this is what I wanted to say.

Speaker A:

What you want to say be like, I love you.

Speaker B:

This is it.

Speaker B:

After that.

Speaker A:

So no problem.

Speaker A:

Listen, we're on time.

Speaker A:

We technically got 20 minutes left, so it ain't no rough, to be honest.

Speaker B:

Okay, so.

Speaker B:

And if you find a picture, you'll see an old picture on the Internet of me and 40 in Graham State University standing by the grammar sign.

Speaker B:

40 Had on like a leather sniper hat and I had on like a leather white baseball cap with some starter sweatsuits on.

Speaker B:

It was really hip hop starting time right at that time.

Speaker B:

My first.

Speaker B:

This is my first time ever seeing the CVS.

Speaker B:

Really back then it's like 87, so going to the CVS and this white man is walking around, he's looking at me saying, what the this man looking at?

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

So I moved around, he followed me.

Speaker B:

He was just mugging me.

Speaker B:

And I said, can I help you?

Speaker B:

So you want to remove that hat, boy?

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker B:

And that's when I knew I was damn south for real.

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker B:

They wanted me to remove my hat because I was inside of a building and he called me boy.

Speaker A:

Oh, black man.

Speaker B:

I was a Y N at that time.

Speaker A:

Okay, okay, so.

Speaker B:

But I was going to school.

Speaker B:

But being a yn, I can understand at that time where you can lose respect for somebody.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Like, I still had my.

Speaker B:

My cool.

Speaker B:

I just didn't know what we was on.

Speaker B:

I never experienced it.

Speaker B:

I used to see it in movies.

Speaker B:

So that's what I experienced when I got to Louisiana in Grambling.

Speaker A:

A lot of racism.

Speaker B:

A lot of racism.

Speaker B:

Like they.

Speaker B:

The old school racism, though, like, that's.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, that's terrible.

Speaker A:

You a black man chopping when it passed.

Speaker A:

So I know it definitely was different for you.

Speaker A:

You feel like they treated you different in school.

Speaker B:

Like was that school's all black school, everything that was all black.

Speaker B:

But when you travel outside that, you get down to Ruston, that's when they, you know, the deeper you get now you in some like, I call it the sticks, royal areas, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So you don't want to really around, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Scary, to be honest with you.

Speaker B:

Nah, we.

Speaker B:

No, I was Y N, so, you know, we were stumpered up.

Speaker B:

Me and 40, I had a 22 long.

Speaker B:

He had 38.

Speaker B:

22 When you.

Speaker B:

22 When you use them long bullets, I shoot you in your big toe.

Speaker B:

It'll come out the top of your head.

Speaker A:

Scanner.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

Nothing.

Speaker A:

Like it ain't gonna disrespect me.

Speaker A:

That's a cold.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

See you.

Speaker A:

Well, you saw almost 60, so definitely back then in late 70s.

Speaker A:

I know it was tough in Louisiana.

Speaker A:

My granny used to tell me them stories.

Speaker A:

Cause she was from Lake Charles and that's what brought her to California really was a lot of the racism and.

Speaker B:

Discrimination and new opportunity and working on them shipyards, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Just like Long Beach.

Speaker B:

A lot of blacks ended up over there.

Speaker B:

Cause they had the shipyard.

Speaker B:

Shipyard, Navy, Air force.

Speaker B:

Fusing the air Force, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Military.

Speaker B:

My granddad loaded.

Speaker B:

He was a.

Speaker B:

A minister on my grandmother.

Speaker B:

My grandmother's father, my great grandfather, he loaded up three families.

Speaker B:

Three different.

Speaker B:

Like the Joneses, the Smiths and the Johnsons.

Speaker B:

And they got on three buses and they came to California.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

That was definitely during that era of slavery times.

Speaker A:

Because you say great grandpa, we talking about.

Speaker A:

They pass, honey.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

I don't know what, what time they was on, but my grandfather, my great grandfather on my daddy's side, he was 57 and my grandmother was only 27.

Speaker B:

And they were robbing the cradle.

Speaker B:

I was just looking@ancorpors.com, but.

Speaker B:

But no, he wasn't robbing the cradle.

Speaker A:

No, he wasn't.

Speaker A:

She grown.

Speaker B:

No, they folks was married.

Speaker B:

She.

Speaker B:

They was.

Speaker B:

People was married.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

At 15, 16 years old with families.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And they wasn't even worried about how they was taking care of their kids.

Speaker B:

They was living on farms and had livestock and all the type of.

Speaker B:

So it was cool.

Speaker B:

But that was actually his second family is what I figured out.

Speaker B:

He had already had another family and then he broke up with that lady.

Speaker B:

Just like what they do today.

Speaker B:

And then started another family.

Speaker B:

But these people gonna be messed up when they get older.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So wait a minute, let me get this straight.

Speaker B:

So your cousin is your brother too?

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's a lot of that in the South.

Speaker A:

I be thinking, why is that like that in the south they all screw each other.

Speaker A:

Like that's just odd to me.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

Ah, maybe because they, you know, a lot of the.

Speaker A:

It's out there.

Speaker A:

It's a lot of us.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And, and I think sometimes they couldn't have known.

Speaker A:

They couldn't have known or do they know?

Speaker B:

Like I said, two different type of things.

Speaker B:

So like if you look at royal families, royal families literally want the bloodlines.

Speaker B:

They stay the same.

Speaker B:

They, they, they incest.

Speaker B:

Not, not, not, not first.

Speaker A:

First cousin, not first brother, family or siblings.

Speaker B:

Third cousin over here, second cousin.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker A:

Also on our side, we had a lot of separation.

Speaker A:

I got family in Louisiana too, so they came in through the great migration, so.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

A lot of them trace it back or go back to Louisiana.

Speaker B:

Yeah, most of them, for sure.

Speaker B:

For sure.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's where my family from too, is Louisiana.

Speaker A:

Like, that's where all my granny people is, Lake Charles.

Speaker A:

But also, like, you had, like, you had mating farms.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And they split up the family so you could.

Speaker B:

They did teach.

Speaker B:

They did have mating forms.

Speaker B:

They did it on purpose.

Speaker B:

And then they.

Speaker B:

Then they started mixing the races too.

Speaker B:

And that's what that.

Speaker B:

That temperature.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you.

Speaker B:

You probably Creole or something.

Speaker A:

My great grandmother's hair was like, down to here.

Speaker B:

They French.

Speaker A:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker A:

I'm definitely that.

Speaker B:

That's why they talk like that, Wally.

Speaker B:

Yeah, French quarters, man.

Speaker B:

They really.

Speaker B:

They French.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's exactly what I am.

Speaker A:

Creole for sure.

Speaker A:

Like, like whole cold, hardly.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they do.

Speaker A:

Yeah, man, so is mine.

Speaker B:

You can see black people everywhere.

Speaker B:

You can see a black Chinese, man, a black Mexican everywhere.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they everywhere.

Speaker A:

We are everywhere.

Speaker A:

We are everywhere.

Speaker A:

Samoans too.

Speaker A:

Y' all thick like us.

Speaker A:

Like, they eating that cornbread.

Speaker A:

So listen, they with us too, right?

Speaker A:

They be thick as heck.

Speaker B:

Everybody was designed by the environment that you lived in.

Speaker B:

The universe gave you what you needed to protect to live in that environment.

Speaker B:

You know, if it's a cold environment, you might have been hairier, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker A:

I never even thought of that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, your hair be a little thicker and wooler if you're out there in that African thing.

Speaker B:

See, and that's true, though.

Speaker B:

And it's just like how you got different Asian, Chinese, tobac.

Speaker B:

You know, some people.

Speaker B:

That's not coerced on.

Speaker B:

What's the difference?

Speaker B:

It's just.

Speaker B:

Oh, they some Asians or they call a dude from Korean China some Chinese, man.

Speaker A:

That's totally different.

Speaker A:

Thai.

Speaker B:

That's how it is with, with us and Africans.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we all totally did.

Speaker B:

We brown skinned, but we not the same people at all.

Speaker A:

Because definitely they'll be like a lot of black people be like, I'm African American.

Speaker A:

No, you not, man.

Speaker B:

They said they changed that, that terminology so many times so they didn't have to give up that money.

Speaker A:

Yeah, he actually reclassified a lot of, like, indigenous people that were actually black, called the Negro.

Speaker B:

I think my great grandmother was colored.

Speaker B:

And then, then, then my grandmother was Negro.

Speaker B:

My mama was African American.

Speaker B:

And then I was black.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm Black.

Speaker B:

So they.

Speaker B:

They just keep switching it.

Speaker A:

They do keep switching it.

Speaker B:

They don't want to give you a real name.

Speaker B:

But they changed it from America.

Speaker B:

Amora, like a morica.

Speaker B:

Whatever they said to America.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker A:

I didn't know that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they said this was.

Speaker B:

I'm Morocco.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Furthest north.

Speaker A:

It was originally before the colonizers came, it was Turland.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Turtle Island.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

That's what Dan Calloway said was called Turtle Island.

Speaker A:

That's definitely beyond me.

Speaker A:

I'm educated, but not on that like per.

Speaker A:

No, I need we not all.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that.

Speaker A:

See that's Percy and them Lane, I thought.

Speaker A:

And then Bela, that's his lane too.

Speaker A:

Because he's older than definitely me.

Speaker A:

So I know that you didn't include me into that.

Speaker A:

Okay, well you only you 46.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You're young.

Speaker A:

You put a decade on you.

Speaker B:

Let me.

Speaker B:

Hold on, let me stop you for a second.

Speaker A:

Yes, sir.

Speaker A:

Yes, sir.

Speaker B:

Because when your wisdom come.

Speaker B:

When your wisdom come.

Speaker B:

Because I can take you outside and show you a 60 year old that's still gang banging with a mindset of a 20 year old.

Speaker A:

I see him all the time, right.

Speaker B:

Then I could take you and show you.

Speaker B:

I was showing him a drug dealer that was 24 years old that had a connect with a Colombian back in the day and they was moving a thousand kilos a week and he was making $6 million.

Speaker B:

He was 24 years old, but his mindset was more advanced to even control something like that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's major at 24 years old.

Speaker B:

So knowledge comes where it comes.

Speaker B:

You can't say just because this piano been around 60 years that oh, it's gonna play better cause it's been around.

Speaker B:

No, it's more what's instilled in that person.

Speaker B:

They got little kids right now that basically must have been reincarnated or something.

Speaker B:

But they'll talk to you in such high intellectual that you be like, okay now, so what's gonna happen?

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I'll tell you that they've been here before they done died.

Speaker B:

I believe that who their parents was.

Speaker B:

And you know, you know you in the age of Aquarius right now.

Speaker B:

So you.

Speaker B:

Before the veil is so called lifted.

Speaker B:

You get to learn the correct information now it's no longer hidden.

Speaker A:

Yes, yes.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And it's all over the place.

Speaker B:

But you have to seek.

Speaker A:

You have to.

Speaker B:

You have to seek for it to even understand.

Speaker B:

And you can lose your spouse by going down that rabbit hole that Rabbit hole deep.

Speaker A:

It's no ending.

Speaker B:

Some people stay out the rabbit hole because they want to just stay in this.

Speaker B:

Oh, I just want the regular world to come back and they just stop shooting and killing.

Speaker B:

It's never gonna do that.

Speaker A:

It's gonna get worse.

Speaker B:

Well, it might not.

Speaker B:

It might take a different change.

Speaker B:

You see getting pieces delivered by robots now.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

They got the flying cars coming out next year.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So, I mean, you know, I already said it's gonna be like the Jetsons.

Speaker A:

That's where we on our way to is, the Jetsons now.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

It could be.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

It's flying cars.

Speaker A:

That's a whole food right there.

Speaker B:

Could be.

Speaker B:

But it's like a lot of technology that we had, our people had way before anybody that they just suppressed it, knew how to teleport.

Speaker B:

Like, it'd be right here and be like, all right, you see it in the movies and see it in Star wars and shit like that, but they really could really do it in real life.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

But the whole strategy was to keep you at a lower state, a lower frequency.

Speaker A:

To me, to capitalize on it, to make money.

Speaker A:

Cause all of it's been around.

Speaker A:

It's just now put it out piece by piece.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

When you go to the store in the hood, you gonna see that Henry up, the Hennessy close up front.

Speaker B:

And that Patron, it's gonna be up front.

Speaker B:

When you go to the places on the outskirts that should be way in the back somewhere, they got all the good shit.

Speaker B:

So the thing is, is they supply everything that you need to stay in a lower, lower frequency state design.

Speaker B:

It's right there for you.

Speaker B:

All you gotta do is walk down.

Speaker A:

The street and get it designed for failure.

Speaker B:

McDonald's right there.

Speaker B:

Right there.

Speaker B:

I even looked.

Speaker B:

I was talking to.

Speaker B:

This is it.

Speaker B:

I'm done after this.

Speaker B:

I talked to Good Bill.

Speaker A:

You got hell over there hollering, look.

Speaker B:

I said, man, I love him.

Speaker A:

He's so funny.

Speaker B:

I said, look, man, the places where they grew the greens in the yard.

Speaker B:

And you went and bought your chicken from farmer JJ down the street.

Speaker B:

In the south, even the white girls was dumb.

Speaker B:

Thick didn't need no bbl.

Speaker B:

Don't nobody.

Speaker B:

Cause what they ate, they ate natural shit.

Speaker B:

When they that survived off the GMO fools.

Speaker B:

You go to their strip clubs.

Speaker B:

He's like, y' all get refunds.

Speaker A:

They might as well sell injections in the vending machine.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Cause I'm like, I mean, it's Just.

Speaker A:

Everybody got a bbl.

Speaker B:

I'm just saying it's just different.

Speaker B:

Like, everything is natural when you eat.

Speaker B:

It's just you are what you eat, like, naturally.

Speaker B:

Over here.

Speaker B:

Just talking about that and where they, you know, still do it naturally.

Speaker B:

That would be the outcome.

Speaker B:

And then you look at places where, you know, if you got a lot of.

Speaker B:

What's that motherfucker called?

Speaker B:

Crispy something.

Speaker A:

Crispy Chicken.

Speaker B:

Crispy Chicken at the gas station.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

I had some today.

Speaker A:

That it's so dang on good.

Speaker B:

They said it.

Speaker A:

It's horrible for us, but it's so good.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Because that's what I'm saying.

Speaker B:

And it's available to you.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker B:

Easy.

Speaker A:

And it's cheap.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And that's.

Speaker B:

That's what.

Speaker A:

Owned by all Indians.

Speaker B:

That's what she gets you.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So it was nice talking to you.

Speaker A:

Y' all got to get all this.

Speaker B:

We're gonna turn this hustle into a legacy and be back on the freeway.

Speaker A:

Wait, but can you get your gift under your seat first?

Speaker A:

This man, I think you bought the funniest one that I didn't have.

Speaker A:

And he won that 420.

Speaker A:

He's still.

Speaker A:

He celebrated early.

Speaker A:

420.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

You'll get one, man.

Speaker B:

You see this right here?

Speaker B:

What is this?

Speaker A:

That's just a Versace rose for B Love.

Speaker A:

Ain't you see that's.

Speaker A:

That's the only reason why they become a table.

Speaker A:

You told him.

Speaker A:

You weren't supposed to tell him.

Speaker B:

Listen, man, let me tell you something, bro.

Speaker B:

I gotta tell him everything that's going there.

Speaker A:

Not the Versace robe.

Speaker B:

He asked you.

Speaker A:

He asked you.

Speaker B:

You asked him.

Speaker A:

This new to y', all his manager.

Speaker A:

Y' all know him, Open book.

Speaker B:

I am open book.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

And guess what?

Speaker B:

We don't got no surprises or nothing.

Speaker B:

Y' all see this?

Speaker A:

Well, next time, surprise with the Versace roll.

Speaker B:

Hey, listen, we appreciate it.

Speaker B:

We appreciate it.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

You're welcome.

Speaker A:

I appreciate you coming.

Speaker A:

And I gave you a copy of my book, for sure.

Speaker A:

Hopefully you can read it and y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker A:

Next Venture movie.

Speaker A:

I need to be in it.

Speaker A:

I need to be an actor now.

Speaker B:

I came for the road.

Speaker A:

He came from nothing.

Speaker B:

All right?

Speaker A:

See how.

Speaker A:

See how he is.

Speaker A:

They ain't cool.

Speaker A:

They ain't cool.

Speaker A:

Don't you need to be in this camera?

Speaker B:

Him alone.

Speaker A:

He passing right now.

Speaker A:

Okay, yeah, listen.

Speaker B:

After 30 days, he ain't.

Speaker A:

He ain't in.

Speaker A:

His man is like, friend.

Speaker B:

That's pure.

Speaker A:

No, that's fact.

Speaker A:

Do nothing.

Speaker B:

He don't smoke, he don't drink, he don't do nothing.

Speaker B:

You hang out with him for 30 days, but you send his ass home after 30 days.

Speaker B:

Get back to your life.

Speaker A:

Well, they do say, who is that that's telling you that when you eat, it takes 24 hours?

Speaker A:

Oh, close me out.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, all this is good stuff, too.

Speaker A:

Keep all this live.

Speaker B:

Okay, see you in a minute, cuz.

Speaker B:

We don't want to talk about this constipation.

Speaker A:

No, I want all this.

Speaker A:

We ain't closing nothing.

Speaker B:

Person and mucus and all that come through.

Speaker B:

Food and fat and all that.

Speaker B:

So imagine 30 days without it.

Speaker A:

You going to be cool.

Speaker A:

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker A:

No, they said take 24 hours to get everything out.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it take 30.

Speaker A:

It take 24 hours to release everything.

Speaker A:

So if you eat.

Speaker A:

Listen, hear me out.

Speaker A:

If you eating two and three times a day, all of that food that you eating is not going out.

Speaker A:

That's why I only eat once a day.

Speaker A:

I only eat once a day.

Speaker A:

And they always tell you drink all this water.

Speaker A:

No, that's why people got inflamed ankles and stuff.

Speaker A:

You don't drink all that water.

Speaker A:

All right, but anyway, y' all see the man, give him some cheeses.

Speaker A:

Get this is all natural.

Speaker A:

Give him some more snacks, God included.

Speaker A:

Brown, y', all, I think was the funniest one that 420, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

What's left?

Speaker A:

He got the munchies.

Speaker A:

So anyway, I'm shooting out.

Speaker A:

Thank y' all for tapping in with Turner, Hustle with Legacy with Dr. Stance and Bela.

Speaker A:

Can you say bye to the camera, B?

Speaker A:

Say bye to the camera.

Speaker A:

Y' all hear him in the back and keep all of this in there because this is.

Speaker A:

This is what people like to see, the authenticity.

Speaker A:

Noocci, you might as well stick your little forehead right up in there, too.

Speaker A:

And say the people know noochee, too.

Speaker A:

We out, y' all below on the phone.

Speaker A:

He is having a whole conversation, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

This is just perfect content.

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Education & Professional Background

Dr. Stance holds a Ph.D. in Psychology with a concentration in Trauma-Informed Care, providing a strong clinical and academic foundation for the work led across all programs and initiatives. This advanced training informs Dr. Stance’s approach to mental health advocacy, foster care reform, mentorship, and community-based services, ensuring practices are evidence-informed, ethically grounded, and responsive to the impacts of trauma.

Dr. Stance’s work is deeply informed by lived experience shaped by childhood trauma, providing a personal and empathetic understanding of the challenges faced by foster youth and system-impacted individuals. Having navigated early adversity, instability, and the long-term effects of trauma, Dr. Stance brings both professional expertise and personal insight to the development of programs that prioritize safety, trust, and empowerment. This lived experience strengthens Dr. Stance’s connection to foster youth and individuals in care, allowing for services that are not only clinically sound but also grounded in compassion, relatability, and authenticity. Rather than approaching trauma from theory alone, Dr. Stance integrates real-world understanding into mentorship, program design, and leadership—ensuring individuals feel seen, supported, and capable of growth beyond their circumstances.

Dr. Stance is a purpose-driven leader, author, and mental health advocate dedicated to transforming hustle into sustainable legacy. As the founder and CEO of the non-profit, BWIT Luxurious Fostering, Dr. Stance is redefining trauma-informed care for foster youth and adults through dignity, structure, and empowerment. Dr. Stance is the creator and host of the podcast Turning Hustle Into Legacy, where discipline, faith, mindset, and leadership intersect to build generational impact. An author of From a Hoe to C.E.O., Dr. Stance uses lived experience, mentorship, and mental health advocacy to help individuals move from survival to purpose.